VDC this. VDC that. BS! How about driver error to the fullest. I get tired of the VDC crap. Either you know how to handle a car or you don't.

Glad he's ok.

I agree, the streets are not a track. There are an infinite # of bumps, dips, holes etc that will all throw you out of control.

conor- i would have the mods delete this thread. i dont think your dad needs all this.

:iagree: The same thing happened to me - I had just turned right onto a freeway onramp, had VDC off, and accelerated. The rear wheels started to spin and the rear end began to break loose from the pavement (I attributed it to the fact I had just left a car wash and the wheels were probably still wet). I just let off the gas a little, turned the steering wheel slightly to the left, and the car grabbed and straightened out and shot straight up the onramp. It was actually a very fun experience! But if I hadn't felt the rear end break loose, or hadn't made the corrections that I did, I would have been into a brick wall that ran up the side of the onramp...

And, likewise, I'm glad everyone's OK and that the car isn't damaged very bad.

Eh, hes fine :P Seems like it is more of a discussion now. I haven't read a post bashing on my dad really. Just wondering why VDC was off basically.

If anything I feel this thread is informing me and my father.

he turned it off, end of story. :icon17:

Thought process of your dad:

"Hmm... VDC... Traction Control!? Traction control is for people who don't know how to drive. F THIS. *Hits VDC*

*10 seconds later*

"...damn son. I'm not sure what happened."

:rofl2:

No offense... just picking on your old man =)

Your Dad needs to be grounded for at least a month.

Pretty much. I don't know anything about his driving experience except he was a pretty crazy in his younger years... He told me that anything like that hasn't happened to him before.

No worries tho! We are already joking about it :tup:

Your or his next insurance premimun will be a bit higher. Any wreck you can walk away from unhurt is a blessing. I'm your dads age, lost many friends driving old mustang, camaros, nova, chevelles back in the day before computers and VDC. Leave it on. I do and I used to slide my 66 mustang around many a turn on country roads. Or if it's off, go to a parking lot to learn the car dynamics without it before hitting the road.

Dad needs private drifting lessons from Dominic Torretto.:driving:

Tell your dad not to feel bad, this happened to me leaving my driveway (I live in the country on a farm). I always had the VDC off in the past, it shuts the car down if you get any wheel spin (which used to annoy me). I hit the gas coming out from a roll, shifted into 2nd (the engine reached boost), hit some gravel, and the rear end came around ridiculously fast. I counter-steered and corrected, but let off the gas at the same time and the rear end swung out the other direction. By then, I hit the edge of the grass on the side of the narrow country road... grass is slick, no grab for the 2nd counter-steer. Slid sideways through the fence and ditch into my cow pasture :(

The ground effects on a Nismo are more expensive than you'd expect!

It's all better now, but I was on time-out for a month while the Z sat at the body-shop. I'm happy you guys are ok and the car isn't worse off. Blame driver error, VDC, conditions, religion or what-ever you want, it really doesn't matter... even when you think you know the car and what to expect, it can still surprise you. There is probably only two kinds of sports-car drivers: The kind that have crashed and the kind that are going to crash. The key is to learn from the experience and those of others.

How the heck do you afford a 370z/insurance/gas at 18?! I'm having a hell of a time working out a Z into my finances, and I make a hell of a lot more than I did when I was 18.

So is it possible to get him to buy both of you a track day?

How come anytime there is an accident, it's always the VDC or the other person's fault? Could it just be driver's error for once?