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-   -   I think my dealer covered up an accident. (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/47300-i-think-my-dealer-covered-up-accident.html)

Apoc370z 12-29-2011 02:56 PM
Why not list out the things you think are wrong with the car? It could be a lot of things that could have caused all the problems.

Baer383 12-29-2011 06:07 PM
In Georgia (I don't know about other states)a dealer can do $500 or under in repairs to a new car and by law they don't have to tell the customer.

Just cause the side was repainted it doesn't mean it was replaced some A'hole could have walked thru the parking lot and keyed the whole side.

Dealer's that have body shops usually give the new car salesman the est. and lets say it is $825 the new car manager knows that he will have to tell the cust. so the body shop discounts the price on paper to meet the $500 threshold.

Just a thought:tiphat:

Trips 12-29-2011 06:25 PM
Like it has been recommended, Get a lawyer this way they'll think twice on trying to screw someone else, But they are what they are bottom feeders.

Rui Z 12-29-2011 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1468029)
In Georgia (I don't know about other states)a dealer can do $500 or under in repairs to a new car and by law they don't have to tell the customer.

Just cause the side was repainted it doesn't mean it was replaced some A'hole could have walked thru the parking lot and keyed the whole side.

Dealer's that have body shops usually give the new car salesman the est. and lets say it is $825 the new car manager knows that he will have to tell the cust. so the body shop discounts the price on paper to meet the $500 threshold.

Just a thought:tiphat:
There was no VIN number on the panels. That means they are not the original panels and would have cost way more than $500 to buy new panels and repaint.

Baer383 12-29-2011 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1468103)
There was no VIN number on the panels. That means they are not the original panels and would have cost way more than $500 to buy new panels and repaint.
I know I do body work for a living,I still don't think they replaced the whole side that would have been a $5000-$9000 repair a car with that much damage would be easy to detect with minimal looking.

Thechidz 12-29-2011 08:24 PM
post the name of dealership here to help future buyers

better yet, do what Ben did:

http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...ml#post1401103

Review: Dishonorable experience at Gwinnett Place Certified GTR Dealer, Duluth GA - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

it's a long story, but worth the reading. A win for pissed off consumers everywhere

PapoZalsa 12-29-2011 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1468124)
I know I do body work for a living,I still don't think they replaced the whole side that would have been a $5000-$9000 repair a car with that much damage would be easy to detect with minimal looking.
Not really,there are some good body shops.

Baer383 12-29-2011 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 1468320)
Not really,there are some good body shops.
I work in one of the best shops in Atlanta I don't care how good you are the average person looking in the right places will see a lot.:tiphat:

Z_ealot 12-29-2011 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1468124)
I know I do body work for a living,I still don't think they replaced the whole side that would have been a $5000-$9000 repair a car with that much damage would be easy to detect with minimal looking.
i dont know how the laws are there, but from what i was told by the body shop that repaired my old cobalt after an old lady backed into the driver side door, they are required by law to take the original VIN sticker off the door if it has been replaced and put a new sticker on the door. Keep in mind that the replacement sticker looks nothing like the original VIN sticker that it replaces and is not in the same place alot of the time either.

Baer383 12-29-2011 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1468355)
i dont know how the laws are there, but from what i was told by the body shop that repaired my old cobalt after an old lady backed into the driver side door, they are required by law to take the original VIN sticker off the door if it has been replaced and put a new sticker on the door. Keep in mind that the replacement sticker looks nothing like the original VIN sticker that it replaces and is not in the same place alot of the time either.
I have been working in the body industry for 25 years and have never seen such a sticker.

When we replace a pillar that has vehicle info on it we cut the metal that has the Vin. on it clean up the edges and put the metal plate in the glove box so all information like paint codes,interior trim codes are still with the car.

kenchan 12-29-2011 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by msb3079 (Post 1467720)
REALLY?

You think I need to check out a NEW car more? I mean, it was NEW. It had small issues I knew of, that they took care of... but more that arose... and then more leading to this. It's just not acceptable.

It was sold as NEW - LEFTOVER. That does not mean major damage is acceptable. (without being informed of it).
yah, from my actual experience on another car i bought in the past, i learned that it is normal for dealers to repair cars and sell it new. like i said, i dont agree with their practice, but dealers do it all the time and i bet most people dont even know they are driving 'new' repaired cars.

and repetitive dealer visits for repairs, at least in my area, is opportunity to lemon the car and get a replacement.

haitech 12-30-2011 12:47 AM
Man that's a shady way to run a business

11Thumper 12-30-2011 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by msb3079 (Post 1467720)
REALLY?

You think I need to check out a NEW car more? I mean, it was NEW. It had small issues I knew of, that they took care of... but more that arose... and then more leading to this. It's just not acceptable.

It was sold as NEW - LEFTOVER. That does not mean major damage is acceptable. (without being informed of it).

I did get a lot off.. and for good reason. It was a 2009 ... 2011s were on their way in a few months, and had miles, etc. But not worth this other damage and not worth it never really being up to par. There are many many more details that I'm not really going into.
Yes, kenchan is right. You're buying a product and inspecting it is your job. It doesn't matter if it's a pair of jeans or a car. If you're laying down $35k for something take a little time to inspect it well. Sorry about your situation, I really am. This isn't rocket science though...

Rui Z 12-30-2011 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1468463)
yah, from my actual experience on another car i bought in the past, i learned that it is normal for dealers to repair cars and sell it new. like i said, i dont agree with their practice, but dealers do it all the time and i bet most people dont even know they are driving 'new' repaired cars.

and repetitive dealer visits for repairs, at least in my area, is opportunity to lemon the car and get a replacement.
Im no lawyer, but that sounds illegal.

kenchan 12-30-2011 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1468646)
Im no lawyer, but that sounds illegal.
Yah, its like selling a car with 80miles on the odo and calling it new. Dealers do it all the time. I don't like their way either. This is why I am very careful looking over the car before purchase.


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