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I just wish that Nissan would make the Nismo around 50k instead of the current price and give it some options that would actually help it. Not sure what, but not luxury features. Stuff that will make it lighter/faster not luxurious/pretty.

Funny thing... you all that remember the 0-60 Z track record thread would have noticed the NISMO speed record in stock form thus far is 4.5/12/.9. So that in itself beats at least the 60 time of the M1. Which I saw motorweek and they got 5.1 for the 1M. Seems like it accelerates on par with the Z in stock form. The torque advantage comes from turbos.

Now notice every car you are dragging into the comparo is $20-30k more expensive than the NISMO. Japan has a leather NISMO????? Then be original and order one straight from japan. You said you are willing to spend 46k right??? Well get a lightly used one for 35k in japan and use the other 11 k and bring it over. See now you'll be the man.
So the NISMO has leather. Order JDM NISMO seats.
The only thing our NISMO truly needs right now is more power and weight reduction. As far as 1M having more torque. Its a turbo. You are making comparisons that can't be really made under the circumstances.
Remeber a base/manual is 32k a base manual sport is 35k. That's pretty cheap for the performance level that matches a 60k porsche. The NISMO and touring are 40k.

Earlier you brought up oil heating issues. You know the 12 is now oil cooled right? Though not many changes have occured, the Z has been tweaked for better bump absorption, some engine rasp reduction and in cabin volume. Throttle response has increased a little bit. And when you spend $100 on a pair of K&N filters. The Z throttle response increases to decent levels. " I'm NOT saying there's not room for improvement." But what you want is like 75% unnecessary for a performance car @ the price range. You are completely neglecting price range with the Z. And its been proven in the 90's that the Z won't sell with porsche pricing.
If you're so impressed with BMW performance ? You can always throw in a bimmer in your stable.

This, perhaps:

How are you going to compare the nismo 370z against the BMW m1 or Audi s4? Lol where is the
logic?

The M1 needs two turbos to do that. There are pickup trucks that can do nearly 5 second 0-60.

Nismos focus isn't on 0-60 times.

:excited:I hear JDM is interested in getting rid of a few used reactors. Maybe they'd be willing to offer them as an option. Should go right along with that new oil cooler.:eek2::tiphat:

I say change the performance division's name. NISMO sounds ghey.

It's 89 for a painted car. 88 for stainless steel.

Hi Output Motorsports. (H.O.M.O.)

Still ghey.. Nissan Omori Hi Output Motorsports. N.O.H.O.Mo

Can't say that's gay lol

Riding the trollcycle

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For those who always whine and complain, they should change the title to 2013 (whatever car name) Changes, they like 1M, put it in the Italic part, they want horsepower like a MusBang, ops... Mustang.... then put the Mustang on it.

You like the 1M this and that over the Z, then buy the 1M, you like something a Tercel has but the Z don't, then buy a Tercel, LOL.

For me, I just simply like the Z, what the heck I will care what changes it has, JUST DRIVE THE DAMN THING!!!!

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BTW, the trollcycle is pretty sexy..... :bowrofl: