1st to 2nd a tad bumpy

yaheard · 12-19-2011, 06:03 AM

Sorry if this has been covered before but I could not find anything after a search.

So I am still having a little bumpiness going from 1st to 2nd. I dont have any other problems shifting or with any other gears. It seems to always be rocky no matter what, unless I take it very easy and slow down a tad.

Just wondering if anybody else has the same issue or if you have any advice. Thanks and sorry again if its been covered a bunch.

anthonyy · 12-19-2011, 10:56 AM

yes, many of us have this shifting behavior

you may want to try switching to Redline transmission fluid, I have read about great results on this forum. It is on my next to-do list.

I have gotten pretty much used to it. Shift a little slower and don't force it. Also if you rev a little higher ~4-4.5k then shift, it will be smoother.

Footloose301 · 12-19-2011, 10:56 AM

Yes. It's normal. It's been discussed many times. Notchy transmissions in our cars

PapoZalsa · 12-19-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

It's been discussed many times.

Mikes350z · 12-19-2011, 08:19 PM

I also noticed the 2nd always bumps. Most noticeably is the RPM drop once engaged even if I leave on "sport mode"... Best advice once you engage clutch just rev the RPM's like mentioned above to above at least 3K and engage 2nd quickly, Since doing that no bump or clunkkk....

yaheard · 12-19-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes350z

I also noticed the 2nd always bumps. Most noticeably is the RPM drop once engaged even if I leave on "sport mode"... Best advice once you engage clutch just rev the RPM's like mentioned above to above at least 3K and engage 2nd quickly, Since doing that no bump or clunkkk....

Yeah thats exactly what Im talking about. The RPM just plummets. Ill give that a shot. Thanks

yaheard · 12-19-2011, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the responses and sorry again for the thread.

I knew I may have read something similar before but I couldnt find it through the search.

Its kind of annoying, but I was thinking that it was me. After a few weeks, I didnt know what else I was doing different in that one gear. Ill try and give it a little more rpm because I did notice that the tach drops alot when shifting to 2nd.

370Zsteve · 12-19-2011, 11:19 AM

"unless I take it very easy and slow down a tad"

If I still had my old Alfa, I'd let you take it for a spin. Afterwards, while shifting in your Z, you'd swear you were driving an MX-5 Miata.

And if it makes anyone feel any better, The GT-R behaves exactly the same way.

Masa · 12-19-2011, 11:20 AM

+1 on shifting at ~4k rpm.

I usually do the same until the car has warmed up especially now that its cold in the mornings. After a couple mins the car shifts smoother and I will shift at 3k rpm in the lower gears.

kenchan · 12-19-2011, 11:38 AM

are you guys talking about the lever from 1-2 or clutch work?

if clutch work you need to practice some more and apply a tad of throttle when engaging 2nd while the fly wheel is spinning down. i mentioned this several times to newbs on MT's but it is like catching a ball or water balloon you toss up in the air.

you match speed with your arms/hands when you grab it, right? it's the same prinicple with the flywheel.

yaheard · 12-19-2011, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

are you guys talking about the lever from 1-2 or clutch work?

if clutch work you need to practice some more and apply a tad of throttle when engaging 2nd while the fly wheel is spinning down. i mentioned this several times to newbs on MT's but it is like catching a ball or water balloon you toss up in the air.

you match speed with your arms/hands when you grab it, right? it's the same prinicple with the flywheel.

Not clutch work. At first I thought it was I as letting the clutch out too soon, but after working it and carefully doing shifting/clutch it was still jerky.

kenchan · 12-20-2011, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaheard

Not clutch work. At first I thought it was I as letting the clutch out too soon, but after working it and carefully doing shifting/clutch it was still jerky.

i see. the colder temps does make the tranny pretty stiff at times.

adding a weighted knob can help.

kielbasa16 · 12-20-2011, 12:53 PM

An alternative solution also appears to be in the works:
Forget the Spring: The Real Solution To Clutch Pedal

anthonyy · 12-20-2011, 01:50 PM

I like the stock clutch spring / feeling

That's why I decided to buy the car... because of the way it drove

yaheard · 12-21-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i see. the colder temps does make the tranny pretty stiff at times.

adding a weighted knob can help.

I was thinking that it was a weather issue. The car never bumped this bad during the summer. Now that it is much colder, I thought maybe it has something to do with it.

12-19-2011, 06:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
yaheard Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: VA Posts: 148 Drives: 6MT Monterrey Blue Z Rep Power: 16	1st to 2nd a tad bumpy Sorry if this has been covered before but I could not find anything after a search. So I am still having a little bumpiness going from 1st to 2nd. I dont have any other problems shifting or with any other gears. It seems to always be rocky no matter what, unless I take it very easy and slow down a tad. Just wondering if anybody else has the same issue or if you have any advice. Thanks and sorry again if its been covered a bunch.

12-19-2011, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Footloose301 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,659 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 22	Yes. It's normal. It's been discussed many times. Notchy transmissions in our cars __________________ 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

12-19-2011, 08:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mikes350z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370Z MagBlack M6 Rep Power: 14	I also noticed the 2nd always bumps. Most noticeably is the RPM drop once engaged even if I leave on "sport mode"... Best advice once you engage clutch just rev the RPM's like mentioned above to above at least 3K and engage 2nd quickly, Since doing that no bump or clunkkk.... __________________ '09 370Z Touring w/Sport & Nav 6-Speed Magnetic Black Persimmon HKS NAV Tool Backup Camera 35% Tint SOLD 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Altitude Dark Gray

12-19-2011, 11:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	"unless I take it very easy and slow down a tad" If I still had my old Alfa, I'd let you take it for a spin. Afterwards, while shifting in your Z, you'd swear you were driving an MX-5 Miata. And if it makes anyone feel any better, The GT-R behaves exactly the same way. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

12-19-2011, 11:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Masa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 2,237 Drives: Family Cars Rep Power: 21	+1 on shifting at ~4k rpm. I usually do the same until the car has warmed up especially now that its cold in the mornings. After a couple mins the car shifts smoother and I will shift at 3k rpm in the lower gears. __________________ BMW 340i Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

12-19-2011, 10:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
anthonyy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Los Gatos, CA Posts: 1,027 Drives: Lexus CT Rep Power: 17	yes, many of us have this shifting behavior you may want to try switching to Redline transmission fluid, I have read about great results on this forum. It is on my next to-do list. I have gotten pretty much used to it. Shift a little slower and don't force it. Also if you rev a little higher ~4-4.5k then shift, it will be smoother.

12-19-2011, 11:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
yaheard Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: VA Posts: 148 Drives: 6MT Monterrey Blue Z Rep Power: 16	Thanks for the responses and sorry again for the thread. I knew I may have read something similar before but I couldnt find it through the search. Its kind of annoying, but I was thinking that it was me. After a few weeks, I didnt know what else I was doing different in that one gear. Ill try and give it a little more rpm because I did notice that the tach drops alot when shifting to 2nd.

12-19-2011, 11:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	are you guys talking about the lever from 1-2 or clutch work? if clutch work you need to practice some more and apply a tad of throttle when engaging 2nd while the fly wheel is spinning down. i mentioned this several times to newbs on MT's but it is like catching a ball or water balloon you toss up in the air. you match speed with your arms/hands when you grab it, right? it's the same prinicple with the flywheel.

12-20-2011, 12:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
kielbasa16 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Posts: 770 Drives: 09 Blk Z Spt Rep Power: 18	An alternative solution also appears to be in the works: Forget the Spring: The Real Solution To Clutch Pedal __________________ Mag Black Kielbasa

12-20-2011, 01:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
anthonyy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Los Gatos, CA Posts: 1,027 Drives: Lexus CT Rep Power: 17	I like the stock clutch spring / feeling That's why I decided to buy the car... because of the way it drove

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