370z manual grind?
 

I have read a lot about grinding and bad syncros here, but I wonder if its an issue, or just the people who have had issues being vocal while the majority without are silent. It's bugging me enough that I'm considering the auto : /

I wouldn't shy away from the manual for that reason. My 350Z had cold syncro issues and it seems to be similar to what the 370Z cars are experiencing. I put a little prolong tranny oil in my 350Z and it helped. I also installed a B&M short shifter and it helped too.

I chose a auto this time because the Z has become my DD and the traffic is true stop and go around here. I just leave it in auto for my 1hr commute, turn on the tunes and life is good again without having to work after I get off work.

Take a close look at the S7 Auto.... Spend some time test driving one. Like a couple of hours. You'll be impressed. I find that coming of the line is left hand turn with my right hand on the floor stick and tapping it into second then bringing my hands to the steering wheel and using the paddle shifters to go through 3,4 and maybe 5th if I need it give my one heck of a quick get away without tire smoke or anything. It's amazing. At the same time it's smooth throughout the whole ordeal unlike the loading and unloading the a manual car has doing the same. Upshift is the corners at 1g are difficult to keep feet planted etc... in a S7 your left foot can be left on the dead pedal and your firm in your seat... The auto has been proven to be quicker 0-60 and as far as I can tell it doesn't short you on fun unless you just leave it in drive. Sometimes that is a good thing.

Like I said don't let the grind issue scare you away from a manual especially with the rev matching .... But, please test drive an auto. It will impress you if you spend a little time with it. Don't forget it takes time to adjust to your driving style so.... drive it hard and drive it easy to get a good feel for it.

Enjoy the ride....

I drove an auto, but did not give it time to learn or drive it hard.
If you spin the car in an a7, how do you save it? With a manual I just stab the clutch in.

Hey, i misclicked on my vote and put that I have had issues. In reality I have had absolutely no problems with my transmission, it's a 2011 fyi.

Thanks!

As you said in your op, its the fact that the people with problems are vocal about it (I know I would be), while those without problems don't go starting threads like "Help! My transmission works well!"

Mine has been perfect 2010.

Also, unless you're just a die hard manual fan and will not have as much fun with an auto box no matter how good is, get the 7-speed. Its the best auto I've ever driven. That being said, I still went with the 6speed.

I know. I don't want to pass up the manual just because of a few dozen guys who had issues, but at the same point, I don't want a problemchild. Wish I could find out what Nissan's replacement pph etc. Is on that.

I kind of agree with Mandigo's and your opinions. People who are having issues tend to be vocal about them while people who aren't don't really say much. I know this is an apples to oranges comparison, but when I worked in a health clinic as a medic, 90% of the comments people took the time to submit was when they weren't happy about something. The other 10% were the ones who took time to give us a positive comment. I read through the negative posts here and figure that even though there a quite a few threads about this and that breaking, a vast majority of the Z population doesn't have that issue (minus the oil temp issue lol).

Any idea how I can get real data on the transmission? I don't want to deal with issues due to faulty design. I had pph data and everything before I bought my vette. It was/is an industry leader along side Porsche in that department, and I'm not looking to give that kind of reliability up. Would like to know. I'm going to call z1 motorsports. They see a few z's.

Honestly, I wouldn't know. I would say contact NNA but I doubt you would get the kind of answer you want from them.

I'll give it a go. Both gm and tremec were very helpful in the past right up to the bowling green plant manager helping me out with stuff.

First off topic post about which is better auto or Manual?

It's getting LOCKED!

Their already Plenty of threads on that topic!

STAY ON TOPIC!!


From seeing some of the problems with the Manual in the 09's

I would think those issue's have gotten ironed out if they're really was a big problem by Nissan

But I don't think it's a problem NOW that people should shy away from the Manual. IMO

Thanks for your input! Do you have any data on a part number change, etc that would indicate a "silent" change by Nissan to fix the issues experienced early on? Is Mt-85 respond highly recommended, or factory fill just fine?

I'd say put it in neutral and use some brake but not to hard.

I have not sorry, but from reading on here I have seen that there is not to much of an issue now like back a couple of years ago. We all know you may a very small percentage of problems still just from a production stand point but not to warrant to avoid getting one. You got a good thread here.

Looks like 2011 was the bad year based on the small sample here, even counting the one vote as an accident. id like to know if anything was changed to improve the issue.

No problems whatsoever. Get the manual. Even better if you get the Sport Package!

2011 Manual here, no grinding whatsoever. Just hit 6k miles. 1st to 2nd shifts are usually notchy when cold, but no grinding.

no grinding for me

most cars are kinda stiff while new but shouldn't grind unless one really screws up the timing on the shifting or defective syncro's.

i think i read one or two with 2009's that had bad 5th or 6th syncro's.

*sigh*

Let the thread live please, mods. I can't help it that "there's always one..."

No car is good enough for you I think.

just voted, '10 with no issues. It's a bit clunky (normal though) when cold, but once warmed up, just fine. It's not the most buttery smooth 6mt ever, but it works just fine.

15K miles total with 6 track days in there to boot. FYI, will be switching out very soon to redline mt 85, not cause there's anything wrong, but just to improve/improve quality of the fluid in there since it sees a decent amount of track time every year.

IC, you should go to a dealership and test drive both again and honestly, either trans is very good, you won't go wrong with either unless you pick a manual but in your heart really wanted an auto or vice versa.

I've had both AT and MT 370's. The MT was more fun to drive the AT was faster (easier to hook up) at the track. So it's really up to you, if i had to do it all over i'd just get the nismo so MT it would be.

'11 here and loving it! Almost 4k miles - smooth shifting with stock shifter and tran fluid.

I had 5th and 6th gear synchro issues at 6000 miles.

Transmission was changed and I've had no issues aside from the normal complaints with the 6sp.

I'm at 18000 miles and have been TT for 6000.

I am used to tremecs, so clunky and notchy is no big deal to me. I am just worried about the integrity of the product after reading this forum, which as I said already, has probably painted things in the worst possible light, as it seems over half of you have had problems with the m6 transmission.

Grinding is purely operator error on this end. Twice comes to mind on my 2009.

Trying to be as fast as the throttle blip that the syncro sports package offers, while turned off. Not a reason to not buy an automatic.

Grinding and bad syncros are reasons, but there could be a lot of others including the driver.

wow, kind of surprised at the results

Maybe you should consider alternative cars? Not bashing you but you kind of remind me of my lady shopping for a new dress. ;)

I've looked, the 370z seems to be it for me. As long as the manual isn't as bad as my poll indicates. Jeez : /

According to this poll it looks like more people don't have the problem then people that do.

I drove the 6MT but ended up with the 7AT. To each his/her own but coming from an S2000 the Nissan MT didn't feel great to me. I have no regrets with the 7AT and I don't feel like I'm missing out.

Up to you but best to buy before they stop making them. If you're really not sure test drive a used one to see how it works after 30k miles. It's just a car and $35k isn't a ton of money.

True that, but nearly half and half sucks.

Well, I haven't driven a GM 6mt, so i can't directly compare them, but I did spiritedly test drive an 07 mustang gt 5sp and that trans was much rougher, clunkier, whatever you want to call it than ours is.

also, I almost hate to say this, but I can't help but feel some of the bitching and complaining about our manual trans has to do at least partly, with folks that are either new to driving stick and/or just can't drive a manual well. (with the exception of folks that have had csc issues, that, imo, is the only real potential issue with our trans, and then again, there's folks on here, us included, that have plenty of track time & mileage with 0 issues)

Haha. I have almost 35k on my 09 and haven't had any problems with it.

If you think our synchros are bad.. you should check out the 8th generation Civic Si's transmission.

[QUOTE=OMGWTFBBQ;1445935]Haha. I have almost 35k on my 09 and haven't had any problems with it.

If you think our synchros are bad.. you should check out the 8th generation Civic Si's transmission.[/QUOTE]

/\ I dumped my 07 FA5 cause of constantly getting locked out of 3rd gear, the final straw was when I was trying to turn left across traffic and went to downshift into 3rd from 5th and it wouldn't go in and there was oncoming traffic bearing down on me. I had to just go into 2nd instead but for a split second there, not a good feeling at all. And the honda dealership AND honda corportate were zero help at all.

Both 370Z's 2009 MT with each having about 35k miles and no clunking what so ever.

I have driven several 370z manual cars. The transmission felt fine. I'm worried about durability, not initial quality. Did Nissan do anything about the failing csc or is the 09 unit the same as the 12 unit?