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andre12031948 12-03-2011 01:17 PM

this morning drove the 370z for the first time ever
 
The interior is nice. The handling is tighter/better than my 08 350z. The look is also fine. I like the old 350 but I also think the 370 is very nice. I also know(seen Ray & Jason drag race) that the 370z is faster/quicker BUT when I tested one today, the car just didn't feel fast at all. The rpm just went fast to redline without much feel of power. I know the car is faster, just didn't have that feeling. The gas pedal has a very short travel point. I had to pull over because I thought there was something in the way, preventing me from flooring the car. There was, but it was part of the pedal. I also didn't care for the match rpm thing. When I down shifted, the rpm flew up quickly but the driving feeling was not there. So even if I can buy one at a very, very, good price, I won't. I was ready today, but I just can't. I will be either re-wiring my 08 that was flooded, or contue with the LS swap. I tried but I just can't.......

kenchan 12-03-2011 02:17 PM

i like charburgers and cheeze fries. :yum:

Nismo89 12-03-2011 02:36 PM

i like tits and *** but they dont come with the car......yet..

oh wait, yes they do. girls are all over it when it Drives by.

(damn things keep trying to steal mine!)

DarkZide 12-03-2011 02:58 PM

Troll thread.

nmjaxx9 12-03-2011 03:08 PM

:ughdance:

Urbanracer 12-03-2011 03:16 PM

Try taking the e-brake off next time.

zeddreaming 12-03-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434499)
The interior is nice. The handling is tighter/better than my 08 350z. The look is also fine. I like the old 350 but I also think the 370 is very nice. I also know(seen Ray & Jason drag race) that the 370z is faster/quicker BUT when I tested one today, the car just didn't feel fast at all. The rpm just went fast to redline without much feel of power. I know the car is faster, just didn't have that feeling. The gas pedal has a very short travel point. I had to pull over because I thought there was something in the way, preventing me from flooring the car. There was, but it was part of the pedal. I also didn't care for the match rpm thing. When I down shifted, the rpm flew up quickly but the driving feeling was not there. So even if I can buy one at a very, very, good price, I won't. I was ready today, but I just can't. I will be either re-wiring my 08 that was flooded, or contue with the LS swap. I tried but I just can't.......

Sounds like all you have to do is turn the "s" button off.

Trips 12-03-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1434569)
i like charburgers and cheeze fries. :yum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 1434582)
i like tits and *** but they dont come with the car......yet..

oh wait, yes they do. girls are all over it when it Drives by.

(damn things keep trying to steal mine!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1434597)
Troll thread.

Really was that Necessary?

I'd suggest moving on if you're not going to reply on topic!



Sorry you felt that way Andre its understandable since the torque isn't that great at the bottom end but it does make up for it with a higher redline.

PapoZalsa 12-03-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbanracer (Post 1434609)
Try taking the e-brake off next time.

:icon18:

hector20 12-03-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434499)
The interior is nice. The handling is tighter/better than my 08 350z. The look is also fine. I like the old 350 but I also think the 370 is very nice. I also know(seen Ray & Jason drag race) that the 370z is faster/quicker BUT when I tested one today, the car just didn't feel fast at all. The rpm just went fast to redline without much feel of power. I know the car is faster, just didn't have that feeling. The gas pedal has a very short travel point. I had to pull over because I thought there was something in the way, preventing me from flooring the car. There was, but it was part of the pedal. I also didn't care for the match rpm thing. When I down shifted, the rpm flew up quickly but the driving feeling was not there. So even if I can buy one at a very, very, good price, I won't. I was ready today, but I just can't. I will be either re-wiring my 08 that was flooded, or contue with the LS swap. I tried but I just can't.......

I know how you felt, when I test drove the Z for first time I didn't like it, Question , Did you redline it? How long was the test drive?. Since this car doesn't have a lot of torque you have to rev it up over 4500rpm to feel the power. When I test drove for first time it was raining so I didn't drove hard. But decided give it a second chance like a week later and fell in love with it.

andre12031948 12-03-2011 04:53 PM

don't understand the reason for the response of others
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1434618)
Really was that Necessary?

I'd suggest moving on if you're not going to reply on topic!



Sorry you felt that way Andre its understandable since the torque isn't that great at the bottom end but it does make up for it with a higher redline.

This would have been my 5th Z. I'm on my 3rd. Maxima, 81, 97 se, 99 se, had the first one made, 81 rear wheel drive & talked to me, 91 Stenza, 95 Altima, 93 & 95 Quests, a Villiger(nissan Quest) lease(dog show vans) a number of Sentras, including a 2.0 liter Se/Se-r, a 90's 200sx, a demo 4by2 pickup & more. Because I had access to trades at wholesale prices(friends) I've owned 2 & 3 Nissan at the same time. Most likely I've owned more Nissans than anyone, except for a Nissan dealer:) I brought my check book with me today. I'm not dumping on the 370! You guys should be able to take someones negative, (only in part) experience/opinions. The suspension felt sporty, the engine felt weak & empty, with just a flat feeling up to 6,000 rpm. didn't feel the engine helping me control car when down shifting. I've had some of the best Nissans. 1.6 1.8 2.0 liter 4 cyl. 3 liter iron with tim. belts 3 lit alum. w chain a few 3.5 alum. V 8's. I have some experience under my belt:)

andre12031948 12-03-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hector20 (Post 1434681)
I know how you felt, when I test drove the Z for first time I didn't like it, Question , Did you redline it? How long was the test drive?. Since this car doesn't have a lot of torque you have to rev it up over 4500rpm to feel the power. When I test drove for first time it was raining so I didn't drove hard. But decided give it a second chance like a week later and fell in love with it.

I can see that, & perhaps try again. I would love to own one & try to get it into the low 12's with just bolt ons. I don't mean to brag, but I'm very good & have lots of car experience. Yes, the rpm did fly by fast (without 4:08 gears:) & I did redline it in the begining. It didn't have that solid engine feel like my 08. I'll try again:)

andre12031948 12-03-2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 1434618)
Really was that Necessary?

I'd suggest moving on if you're not going to reply on topic!



Sorry you felt that way Andre its understandable since the torque isn't that great at the bottom end but it does make up for it with a higher redline.

thanks

waaaasabi 12-03-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434685)
This would have been my 5th Z. I'm on my 3rd. Maxima, 81, 97 se, 99 se, had the first one made, 81 rear wheel drive & talked to me, 91 Stenza, 95 Altima, 93 & 95 Quests, a Villiger(nissan Quest) lease(dog show vans) a number of Sentras, including a 2.0 liter Se/Se-r, a 90's 200sx, a demo 4by2 pickup & more. Because I had access to trades at wholesale prices(friends) I've owned 2 & 3 Nissan at the same time. Most likely I've owned more Nissans than anyone, except for a Nissan dealer:) I brought my check book with me today. I'm not dumping on the 370! You guys should be able to take someones negative, (only in part) experience/opinions. The suspension felt sporty, the engine felt weak & empty, with just a flat feeling up to 6,000 rpm. didn't feel the engine helping me control car when down shifting. I've had some of the best Nissans. 1.6 1.8 2.0 liter 4 cyl. 3 liter iron with tim. belts 3 lit alum. w chain a few 3.5 alum. V 8's. I have some experience under my belt:)

As a self-proclaimed Nissan car connoisseur, do you think that we all made a mistake by purchasing a 370Z (as opposed to another Nissan or another car)?

andre12031948 12-03-2011 05:08 PM

I was given the car to drive it myself, no salesman. It's a friend's dealership, so I had free reign to drive it as I wished & for how long.

hector20 12-03-2011 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434691)
I can see that, & perhaps try again. I would love to own one & try to get it into the low 12's with just bolt ons. I don't mean to brag, but I'm very good & have lots of car experience. Yes, the rpm did fly by fast (without 4:08 gears:) & I did redline it in the begining. It didn't have that solid engine feel like my 08. I'll try again:)

Yeah I know, this car you don't feel the speed neither the acceleration, is like you know you are going fast because when you look at the rpm and speed but you don't really feel it, I think it is built that way. Two Sundays ago I was on my way to work, it was around 5:00am , and when entering to the highway I redlined my car on 5th , when I looked at the speed 135mph, I said I do not want to get arrested, and nobody believe me when I say that did not feel that fast.Well good luck on whatever car you decide to buy

LakeShow 12-03-2011 05:15 PM

This disease is called "350z Denial".

andre12031948 12-03-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 1434693)
As a self-proclaimed Nissan car connoisseur, do you think that we all made a mistake by purchasing a 370Z (as opposed to another Nissan or another car)?

NO!!!! I've owned a tri power 66 gto, 64 nova, raced my friend's(Brooklyn speed shop) 11 second 64 nova, had a 64 chevelle SS ALL manuel trans. Many cars after that. Braging a little but want to show vast amount of experience. I power shifted cars without using the clutch. I think I'm quilified to express my experience.

It's not a mistake for you! It might or may not be the best choice for me.

andre12031948 12-03-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1434697)
This disease is called "350z Denial".

NO!!!! but my 04 & 08 Z's were some of the most perfect/best/fun cars I've owned.

I had the money (all of it in my pocket) yet I may want my flooded Z intead. Tells you something?

Red__Zed 12-03-2011 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hector20 (Post 1434696)
Yeah I know, this car you don't feel the speed neither the acceleration, is like you know you are going fast because when you look at the rpm and speed but you don't really feel it, I think it is built that way. Two Sundays ago I was on my way to work, it was around 5:00am , and when entering to the highway I redlined my car on 5th , when I looked at the speed 135mph, I said I do not want to get arrested, and nobody believe me when I say that did not feel that fast.Well good luck on whatever car you decide to buy

so true. It is really a catch 22-- the engine feels flat when you're on it, but the power delivery is super smooth and the torque curve is so flat it is almost impossible to believe it is from a production car...but you loose the "thrown in your seat feel" many are used to with high peak power cars that have a sudden power engagement.

I'd rather have the smooth power delivery of the VQ37 any day, but it is not for everyone.

onzedge 12-03-2011 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1434697)
This disease is called "350z Denial".

:icon17:

My_third_Z 12-03-2011 05:57 PM

I had two 350zs, and there is a noticeable increase in power with my 370z. I could tell that almost immediately.
On a side note: I like being able to spell words properly.

kensin0429 12-03-2011 06:29 PM

Go get a mustang .....it haves gobs of power that you wanted ..bye

andre12031948 12-03-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My_third_Z (Post 1434716)
I had two 350zs, and there is a noticeable increase in power with my 370z. I could tell that almost immediately.
On a side note: I like being able to spell words properly.

My 08 is an HR. It has more power than my 04 did. HR are 07's & 08.

I'm aware of my poor spelling, especialy when I'm in a hurry. My answer to that is, I was born in Eastern Europe, then lived in mid-east. So I speak 3 languages fluently plus Spanish:) I do however have better grammar than many natives. I also think content is much more important. I'll try to be more carefull. By the way, how many languages do you speak fluently?

Thechidz 12-03-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hector20 (Post 1434696)
Yeah I know, this car you don't feel the speed neither the acceleration, is like you know you are going fast because when you look at the rpm and speed but you don't really feel it, I think it is built that way. Two Sundays ago I was on my way to work, it was around 5:00am , and when entering to the highway I redlined my car on 5th , when I looked at the speed 135mph, I said I do not want to get arrested, and nobody believe me when I say that did not feel that fast.Well good luck on whatever car you decide to buy

This has been my experience as well. I sometimes miss the wild abandon of my slk, but the 370z is such a well built and impressive machine it makes me :happydance:

Andre, where do you get your car worked on near monticello?

andre12031948 12-03-2011 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thechidz (Post 1434771)
This has been my experience as well. I sometimes miss the wild abandon of my slk, but the 370z is such a well built and impressive machine it makes me :happydance:

Andre, where do you get your car worked on near monticello?

It's a Nissan, doesn't need any work:) What part of N.Y. are you from?

Niss of Midlletown, Smithtown nissan L.I. Performance the experience L.I.

andre12031948 12-03-2011 07:19 PM

I'll try to take another road test
 
Also look at the odometer more:) Since I'm so frail, maybe I need a beast to drive:) LS 500HP Z could be that beast:)

andre12031948 12-03-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensin0429 (Post 1434740)
Go get a mustang .....it haves gobs of power that you wanted ..bye

Nice cars, nice neighberhood:)

UNKNOWN_370 12-03-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434694)
I was given the car to drive it myself, no salesman. It's a friend's dealership, so I had free reign to drive it as I wished & for how long.

Me personally, I had the same type of test drive as you. Not because I know people, but because like you I have purchased many nissan/infinitis, in a short time. I took my test car over 100mph, I performed engine brakings and drove with both vdc on and off. To me, you just didn't drive it well. I've owned a G35 and I know where you are coming from as far as initial torque. Take off isn't vigorous until you pass higher rpm ranges. Once the Z34 picks up on torque it bumrushes through the gears and feels as strong as a v8. The vq 35 feels like it runs out of steam earlier. In manual, it takes some time to get used to to figure out how to harness power out of it.
One sure way to get some extra torque is to Shut VDC off. It is more intrusive in these cars than the past ones. Having bought so many cars I would have thought you would have test driven this car better given the opportunity of a solo flight.

Handling kicks the Z33 azz by a mile. Better stability, perfect suspension tuning and better steering feel make this Z a winner in my book. Torque can be increased with new cams and breathing mods. Or you can just go FI. But honestly, the difference in initial torque from the last model is overexaggerated. Shift the Z34 properly though and you won't tell the difference.

My_third_Z 12-03-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434748)
I'm aware of my poor spelling, especialy when I'm in a hurry. My answer to that is, I was born in Eastern Europe, then lived in mid-east. So I speak 3 languages fluently plus Spanish:) I do however have better grammar than many natives. I also think content is much more important. I'll try to be more carefull. By the way, how many languages do you speak fluently?

You are forgiven then, since English is not your native language. And I only speak English. Lousy American school system. I can write computer programs in multiples languages, though. Does that count?

andre12031948 12-03-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My_third_Z (Post 1434821)
You are forgiven then, since English is not your native language. And I only speak English. Lousy American school system. I can write computer programs in multiples languages, though. Does that count?

You got me there. Because of my age(I think) the only part of computer use that I'm good at is Nissan forums search & Hot teen porn. I am working on others.

sfearl1 12-03-2011 08:33 PM

OP, I just got a 370Z after owning a stage 2 Evo X. The Z didn't seem very fast at all - at first. I was so used to the "slam you back in your seat" feeling of a boosted car that I forgot how smooth and linear the pick up on the VQ felt (also owned an 06 350Z prior to the Evo). I'll tell you what, a week and a half later, I'm finally hitting that sweet spot and learning how to shift the Z's notchy trans again... today I was thoroughly impressed with the acceleration the stock 370 has. Definitely a LOT faster than my 06 Z ever was (rev-up engine, non HR, cbe exhaust/intake/mrev2/plenum spacer). And the handling, I am not sure I even want to touch the suspension with any aftermarket mods. It feels THAT good.

sonic370 12-03-2011 08:50 PM

Can't tell if op is trolling are not.

he was comparing his 350 to a 370.......

iv'e owned both and in mho there is no comparing to the 350 to the 370

anyone whos owned both has to agree. though the 350 was and is a very good car even though sometimes it looked a lot like a chick car.

in no way can you say that about the 370.
using any measuring stick the 370 is heads above the 350
handling, looks damn sexy, more HP and you can tell the difference there.
both trans in the 370 are better, smoother ride and hardly any rattles if any.

sorry didn't to ramble

andre12031948 12-03-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1434816)
Me personally, I had the same type of test drive as you. Not because I know people, but because like you I have purchased many nissan/infinitis, in a short time. I took my test car over 100mph, I performed engine brakings and drove with both vdc on and off. To me, you just didn't drive it well. I've owned a G35 and I know where you are coming from as far as initial torque. Take off isn't vigorous until you pass higher rpm ranges. Once the Z34 picks up on torque it bumrushes through the gears and feels as strong as a v8. The vq 35 feels like it runs out of steam earlier. In manual, it takes some time to get used to to figure out how to harness power out of it.
One sure way to get some extra torque is to Shut VDC off. It is more intrusive in these cars than the past ones. Having bought so many cars I would have thought you would have test driven this car better given the opportunity of a solo flight.

Handling kicks the Z33 azz by a mile. Better stability, perfect suspension tuning and better steering feel make this Z a winner in my book. Torque can be increased with new cams and breathing mods. Or you can just go FI. But honestly, the difference in initial torque from the last model is overexaggerated. Shift the Z34 properly though and you won't tell the difference.

Oh boy, you've got the wrong guy to give driving instruction to. The people that know me, I'm sure will be tired of hearing this again. Since you don't; with stock intake & stock exhausts after test pipes, & with only 280+ HP my 08 holds the bolt on 1/4 mile record at 12.504 at 110mph. Broke it like 5 times. I've done a dozen 12.5's 12.6's. In the past I power shifted without the use of a clutch. Road racing/drag racing, I'm really, really good. As far as cams & breathing mods, they are mostly for top end power. When you understand what cam lob lift, or duration, or rocker arm ratio means & how all affect performance. Why you loose low end turq/power but gain top H.P. with more cam duration, different lifters, bla, bla, bla. It's not as simple as a BIG cam & Breathing mods. Sorry, not want to sound snotty but we read all the time big, bigger, bigest..... Doesn't work that way.

hector20 12-03-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My_third_Z (Post 1434821)
You are forgiven then, since English is not your native language. And I only speak English. Lousy American school system. I can write computer programs in multiples languages, though. Does that count?

No it does not count lol, I code in VB6 and now learning java what about you?
As you can read guys, english is not my native language. :icon14:

andre12031948 12-03-2011 09:13 PM

I'm going to drive the 370 again. I know it's faster, but just doesn't have that feeling. It's like sex, never mind:icon17: For the former 350z guys, there is a big difference(much more than the advertised 6hp) in power & strenght of the engine build. Much thicker rods, bottom end much stronger. It's a different engine from the 03 to 06. Just look at the 1/4 mile pure STOCK times of a 07/08 & the 370. I believe they are the same, & both higher than older 350's. AGAIN, I'll try for another road test. I got to like it, no?

andre12031948 12-03-2011 09:27 PM

more is not better
 
If you want some proof of what I said in my other post, just click official 1/4 drag times. Start from last & read back. Go ahead, do it now. "Moded cars that can't beat their stock times".

Thechidz 12-03-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 1434839)
You got me there. Because of my age(I think) the only part of computer use that I'm good at is Nissan forums search & Hot teen porn. I am working on others.

:roflpuke2::bowrofl::nutswinger:

elmz 12-03-2011 09:53 PM

The OP is entitled to his own opinion. I think the majority of us are long time Z owners as well, so trying to come in here and talk about all the Z's or Nissans you've owned is not going to give you anymore credibility, IMHO it just makes you look like you like a douche. You sound like many 350Z owners from a very popular 350Z forum(I was a former member there too) and you came in here to accomplish what exactly?

It just sounds like the never ending thread HR vs VHR...Sorry man, you kinda of asked for it.

6MT 12-03-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 1434915)
The OP is entitled to his own opinion.

It just sounds like the never ending thread HR vs VHR...Sorry man, you kinda of asked for it.

:iagree: How long does this need to continue. Talk about a goading thread to bring out the trolls.




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