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DJ-of-E 11-21-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1417360)
Meanwhile some people add excessive weight in the form of charburgers and cheese fries. They keep gobs of them stashed away in the hatch, glove box, and even the storage cubby.

:bowrofl:

Really helps in K1 racing as well.

cossie1600 11-21-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1416618)
because of the difference in claimed weight vs actual measured weight

The 3200lbs (I think it was 324x or something?) curb weight figure Nissan released is probably very close to a base. It wouldn't surprise me that the sport package add 80-100lbs to it.

bigsix 11-21-2011 09:49 PM

It was claimed the 350z was heavy because it shared a Platform with other Nissan cars.

The 370z does not share its platform with another car, does it ?

Skeeterbop 11-21-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsix (Post 1418297)
It was claimed the 350z was heavy because it shared a Platform with other Nissan cars.

The 370z does not share its platform with another car, does it ?

I believe it shares parts with the G37, not sure about the chassis though.

mjd77 11-21-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1416546)
My C6 Corvette stock with everything was 3300lbs on full tank. My 370z base+sport was 3350 with full tank. My 06 RX-8 was 3000lbs on full tank. My 04 350 enth. was 3320lbs.

All stock with full tank, no driver or luggage.

I was waiting for someone to mention the RX-8. If that car had any torque it would be a monster.

Red__Zed 11-21-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1418225)
The 3200lbs (I think it was 324x or something?) curb weight figure Nissan released is probably very close to a base. It wouldn't surprise me that the sport package add 80-100lbs to it.

Do the rins/brakes add that much weight?

KillerBee370 11-22-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1418406)
Do the rins/brakes add that much weight?

No. The little plastic front lip does. :bowrofl:

bvl 11-22-2011 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mjd77 (Post 1418368)
I was waiting for someone to mention the RX-8. If that car had any torque it would be a monster.

The renesis engine likely saves 100lbs alone. The RX8 chassis is quite capable and a great performer for what it is.

The Z is a *big* car. I liken the 'light car' discussion to cell phones. People have gotten so used to the crappy voice quality they can say this new phone sounds 'great' compared to the previous one. Hop on a land line and you are introduced to real clarity. Again.

Today's cars have arguably too much required safety items, leather, power this and that, 17-20" wheel sets, larger rotors to help with the growing mass. So if a car is < 3500lbs we think 'its not heavy'. No. It is heavy.

The fact that a car like a GTR can get around a track so well is a testament to good chassis engineers.

Hop in a NA6 miata, Lotus Elise or many other mid-90's sports coupes and you will remember what a lighter car feels like. My '92 miata with FM Turbo and 15" wheels weighed 2250. My 1995 GS-R 2500.

2010 ZR is over 3500 lbs but I get larger everything, a honkin' V6, thicker, heavier doors, leather interior, power everything including top. I can't expect that to be sub 3000 lbs. Kudo's to nissan engineers for trying to save weight where it makes sense. They shaved 20lbs or so with the CF shaft and Ray's wheels just to name two areas. AL hoods are common on sports cars.

Coming from a car 1200+ lbs lighter sports car its still an adjustment for me. The Z is very well planted, and extremely solid. No more go kart feeling I was used to. Doesn't mean its bad...I just wish Nissan did make a 3000lb 2.6-3l6 narrow Z car, which is what I personally was dreaming about before the 350 was released :D

- b

bigsix 11-22-2011 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bvl (Post 1418562)
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Coming from a car 1200+ lbs lighter sports car its still an adjustment for me. The Z is very well planted, and extremely solid. No more go kart feeling I was used to. Doesn't mean its bad...I just wish Nissan did make a 3000lb 2.6-3l6 narrow Z car, which is what I personally was dreaming about before the 350 was released :D

- b


I think the "feel" of the 350z is closer to this ideal dream Z car you're talking about. It's more than just the measurement of mass, it's how the chassis responds. The 370z is more muscle than sports car, imo.

USMCASA 11-22-2011 06:49 AM

its def not from overweight gf's, we'll leave those for the mustang guys lol

cossie1600 11-22-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1418406)
Do the rins/brakes add that much weight?

I believe so yes. Tires too.

My Prius is 3050lbs, it doesn't handle anywhere close to my Z.....

m4a1mustang 11-22-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1418921)
I believe so yes. Tires too.

My Prius is 3050lbs, it doesn't handle anywhere close to my Z.....

But I bet it's 0-6 mph is ridiculous.

Red__Zed 11-22-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1418921)
I believe so yes. Tires too.

Sport package w/ tires
52.2lbs
56.8lbs
per this thread
base rims are about
50f
52r
with tires


sport akebonos:
Front caliper: 11lbs
Rear caliper: 6lbs
Front rotor: 29lbs
rear rotor: ???


base brakes:
front rotor: 22lbs, 5 oz
no other weights available


No way the calipers are under 5lbs on base, so we will go with that.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...2at11749PM.png

Don't have the rest of the weight, but based on that, I don't see how you would get 80-100 lbs for the SP, you've got a delta of maybe 45lbs if you leave some weight for the rotors...unless the viscous unit weighs a ton


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My Prius is 3050lbs, it doesn't handle anywhere close to my Z.....


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Alchemy 11-22-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 1418583)
its def not from overweight gf's, we'll leave those for the mustang guys lol

:bowrofl:


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