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Skeeterbop 11-03-2011 10:40 PM

I'll keep him in my prayers. they should launch that truck driver off a sled at 100mph then stick him in jail.

Calebluna 11-03-2011 10:44 PM

it all started cause the girl he was with said she was single and then her not so single boyfriend saw them at a club it escaladed to this...

m4a1mustang 11-03-2011 10:45 PM

Ugh. That's bad but no one deserves to get hurt over that. :shakes head:

Calebluna 11-03-2011 10:47 PM

i hope he gets a long *** sentece in jail.

DIGItonium 11-03-2011 10:55 PM

So bad to hear... so the passenger is her?

11Thumper 11-03-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna (Post 1391319)
The Driver of this 370z is a close family friend of mine and he was being chased by a guy in a silverado and was ramming him trying to make him wreck he was going over 110 trying to lose him when the truck hit him from the side (P.I.T maneuver) and spun off the road and flipped into multiple trees and signs.
He is in ICU with a broken back and neck and multiple other injuries do to being launched out of the car at 100 something mph... The doctor says he has a 17% chance at living and if he does he will be completely paralyzed...

Sorry to hear about your friend. These things can be avoided but it's always 20/20 looking back at the past. A 17% chance of living isn't much but he did survive the wreck so let's hope he pulls through.

From what you've said I'm going to assume the driver of the Silverado has been arrested and charged with the crime. Correct?

RiCharlie 11-04-2011 08:33 AM

Ought to give that truck driver life in prison ..or at least twenty years! With no chance of parole..crazy nut..

semtex 11-04-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna (Post 1391397)
it all started cause the girl he was with said she was single and then her not so single boyfriend saw them at a club it escaladed to this...

This is just so f*cked up. So much destruction over something so . . . typical.

Red__Zed 11-04-2011 08:57 AM

Here's to hoping the cops get to the truth and those in the wrong get the proper punishment.

007MI6 11-04-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1391799)
Here's to hoping the cops get to the truth and those in the wrong get the proper punishment.

:werd:

Trips 11-04-2011 01:58 PM

My prayers for the driver sad very sad :(

Cmike2780 11-04-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1391832)
Sorry, if he had killed someone in my family here, I'd have pulled the plug on him already. Wonder what his blood alcohol level was?


Dude, that's f*cked. Drunk driving is inexcusable, but it's not like we really know what happened. It sounds like you went through a lot of sh*t in the past, but this situtation has nothing to do with that. They weren't racing, the guy it seems was trying to get a away, totally different scenario. That's like saying rape is just playing hard to get, it's absurd. What happened here hasn't been excused by society in any way and it seems like the guy driving the Z has already payed the price...if not more. You can be as much of a hard-*** or cold blooded as you want, but I think many here would rather give our sympathy to his friends and family, rather than say "pull the plug on him." No one here is perfect, least of all myself, and I'm pretty sure neither are you. It's easy to preach in hindsight.

Mandingo 11-04-2011 02:39 PM

Good god. What an awful story

Cmike2780 11-04-2011 02:40 PM

From the other thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1392239)
Maybe its this member?

sean370z Nissan 370Z Forum - View Profile: sean370z

Here's the dude in the truck:
http://www.mugshots.com/US-Counties/...e-Terrell.html

2011 Nismo#91 11-04-2011 02:48 PM

First I pray that they all make it out of this horrible situation well.

Now
Quote:

Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1391832)
Totally reckless behavior that nothing I've read excuses. Let's see here:

- out at 5:30 am picking-up bar bimbos? check
- get yourself involved in a domestic dispute picking-up a bar bimbo? check
- find yourself being chased by an irate boyfriend for picking-up a bar bimbo? check
- decide to try and outrun some maniacal irate boyfriend of a bar bimbo at speeds over 100 mph on a public street? check
.

Yep lets just assume he was a mass murder too since we are just making up our own facts. I assume your a saint to be able to pass judgement down on others so easily. And I admire your ability to see into the future and avoid conflicts before they happen. Unfortunately we are not all the second coming of Christ like you. When your scared for your life you don't think every action through.

PS good job stereotyping women your cool.

11Thumper 11-04-2011 02:56 PM

None of us know the full story, I accept that. If this was truly a one-sided attack against the Z driver that's very unfortunate.

Do we all have the right to protect ourselves? Absolutely yes!

However, there are ways to calm a dispute like this at the onset. If he really didn't know she had a boyfriend then he should have told her to not get in his car. Her boyfriend saw them at a club right? It's likely the confrontation started there. Why not break the chain of events at that moment. Isn't a club a public place to start with? When I grew up people didn't talk out their mouth and whimper with their tail between their legs when a physical confrontation started as a result. Getting your *** kicked is better than hitting a tree at 100mph. Best be prepared to back up your comments if it gets to that level.

The way people deal with anger is really weird these days. Lot's of tough guys on the car forums (keyboard world class fighters :tup:) and road rage with a 2,000lb+ car. Seriously? Ramming some dude in a 370Z just because your gf is in the car? Why would you give a fvck about her anymore at that point? Lots of ladies out there and it just means you get to have fun with a new one! I have said it all along that 'I don't wish a poor outcome for the Z driver'. That is how I still feel about it. However, he's the one that drove his car up to 100mph on public roads. So what's the plan in that case? Keep driving at 100mph to see who runs out of gas first? Sure, it's hard to think clearly in the moment so I understand that part of it. If this is really the true story and this guy's car kept getting rammed while driving, the truck driver MUST be in jail at this point. If his mental state was really like that why did he stop at the accident scene? Why would he not just drive away if he's in such a crazy mental state? It doesn't make sense that he switched to a rational state of mind so quickly.

Looking back is always 20/20 and we're all judging this from a computer screen. What do we know? Absolutely nothing!

People need to stop this "it's never my fault" stuff. Accept responsibility for your actions. If you're being chased by a guy in a truck and you speed to 100mph it means you don't care about anyone except yourself. If he hit a bus full of children would it be the same? Would you still think it was ok for him to drive like that? What if the passenger was your sister? What would I have done? Given the limited amount of info I would have ended this at the club. However, I don't know enough to determine if that was even an option.

I hope the driver recovers and doesn't pay for this with his life. I hope he learns from the mistake and becomes a better person as a result. We all do stupid things and it doesn't stop when we hit 25, or 30, or 35 years of age.

Trips 11-04-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna (Post 1391319)
The Driver of this 370z is a close family friend of mine and he was being chased by a guy in a silverado and was ramming him trying to make him wreck he was going over 110 trying to lose him when the truck hit him from the side (P.I.T maneuver) and spun off the road and flipped into multiple trees and signs.
He is in ICU with a broken back and neck and multiple other injuries do to being launched out of the car at 100 something mph... The doctor says he has a 17% chance at living and if he does he will be completely paralyzed...

Please keep us posted

This was a serious crash and if it can't be discussed without making wild accusations or slamming a fellow member? It's simply getting locked

Cmike2780 11-04-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1392357)
None of us know the full story, I accept that. If this was truly a one-sided attack against the Z driver that's very unfortunate.

Do we all have the right to protect ourselves? Absolutely yes!

However, there are ways to calm a dispute like this at the onset. If he really didn't know she had a boyfriend then he should have told her to not get in his car. Her boyfriend saw them at a club right? It's likely the confrontation started there. Why not break the chain of events at that moment. Isn't a club a public place to start with? When I grew up people didn't talk out their mouth and whimper with their tail between their legs when a physical confrontation started as a result. Getting your *** kicked is better than hitting a tree at 100mph. Best be prepared to back up your comments if it gets to that level.

The way people deal with anger is really weird these days. Lot's of tough guys on the car forums (keyboard world class fighters :tup:) and road rage with a 2,000lb+ car. Seriously? Ramming some dude in a 370Z just because your gf is in the car? Why would you give a fvck about her anymore at that point? Lots of ladies out there and it just means you get to have fun with a new one! I have said it all along that 'I don't wish a poor outcome for the Z driver'. That is how I still feel about it. However, he's the one that drove his car up to 100mph on public roads. So what's the plan in that case? Keep driving at 100mph to see who runs out of gas first? Sure, it's hard to think clearly in the moment so I understand that part of it. If this is really the true story and this guy's car kept getting rammed while driving, the truck driver MUST be in jail at this point. If his mental state was really like that why did he stop at the accident scene? Why would he not just drive away if he's in such a crazy mental state? It doesn't make sense that he switched to a rational state of mind so quickly.

Looking back is always 20/20 and we're all judging this from a computer screen. What do we know? Absolutely nothing!

People need to stop this "it's never my fault" stuff. Accept responsibility for your actions. If you're being chased by a guy in a truck and you speed to 100mph it means you don't care about anyone except yourself. If he hit a bus full of children would it be the same? Would you still think it was ok for him to drive like that? What if the passenger was your sister? What would I have done? Given the limited amount of info I would have ended this at the club. However, I don't know enough to determine if that was even an option.

I hope the driver recovers and doesn't pay for this with his life. I hope he learns from the mistake and becomes a better person as a result. We all do stupid things and it doesn't stop when we hit 25, or 30, or 35 years of age.

It could have ended at the club, heck he should have stayed in that night, but like you said, hindsight is 20/20. It's one thing to hear about it and another to be in this guys' shoes. There was no way for him to know it would escalate into what happened, but I do agree, he must have had plenty of chances to stop it from getting worst. Sometimes though, you don't have time to stop and think nor the ability to do so. Sometimes, you just react, and its not always the right way.

TypeOne 11-04-2011 03:20 PM

I wonder if VDC was on.

cossie1600 11-04-2011 03:21 PM

z cant run away from a silverado? i think some of you are giving the z guy the benefit of the doubt....

2011 Nismo#91 11-04-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1392414)
z cant run away from a silverado? i think some of you are giving the z guy the benefit of the doubt....

Yeah, well the story goes, Z braked/slowed to avoid traffic, silverado caught up and rammed/pitted him.

memorylasts 11-04-2011 03:24 PM

Wow, that accident report gives a lot of personal info....

MB_Z 11-04-2011 03:24 PM

I think it would be completely different if this was because of showing off and street racing, but the second your life becomes threatened its different. Was doing 100+ the best answer no but when the natural reaction of Fight or Flight kicks in there's no time or mental clearness to think his brain told him to get out of the situation now and quite frankly if i was in the same situation being in the Z my Brain would go immediately to flight Just get out of there and get out there now.

the results are an absolute tragedy i felt sick looking at the pictures and I Really hope the driver pulls through and makes it. my prayers are with his family and him.

Finally you wanna talk about unnecessary speeding here you go. NJ State Police doing 91 MPH with the Ex Governor and his wife unrestrained in the car. Thats what I call unnecessary speeding, from some one who had to be SWORN to protect and serve the public not bend the rules cause you think im a Cop transporting the Gov i can do whatever i want. It makes me sick to think a cop was doing 25+ over the speed limit just to get someone home a little bit quicker

New Jersey Police Update Governor Corzine Crash Investigation

cossie1600 11-04-2011 03:30 PM

there was a video on some off duty cop getting pulled over in wherekese, florida...

Cyberium 11-04-2011 05:19 PM

Damn... what shame. The first anyone thinks is "Stupid kid in a sports car got drunk and crashed into a tree." But the more you learn, it sounds like this guy was just trying to avoid confrontation and got rammed by some angry, drunk redneck who has a history of domestic violence (mugshot link a few threads up). Really hope he pulls through and is well enough to see this guy get a long, long prison sentence. The passenger needs to make sure that justice gets served.

bleufiend 11-04-2011 05:23 PM

Wow. Makes me cringe.

onzedge 11-04-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleufiend (Post 1392544)
Wow. Makes me cringe.

:iagree:

Calebluna 11-04-2011 05:54 PM

Yeah the passenger was a 29 year old girl she made it through with just scratches but the driver (Sean Markham) who is also only 29 got ejected and is in ICU still but he is awake now but still can't move anything :(

11Thumper 11-04-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna (Post 1392582)
Yeah the passenger was a 29 year old girl she made it through with just scratches but the driver (Sean Markham) who is also only 29 got ejected and is in ICU still but he is awake now but still can't move anything :(

Let's hope he recovers. Blame and punishment (if needed) can come later. I just hope he pulls through ok.

Calebluna 11-04-2011 05:57 PM

If only y'all knew the damage done to sean all because the guy in the silverados girlfriend went to the club with him..

Calebluna 11-04-2011 05:58 PM

I'll post his health when I get updated from his family.

sapsec 11-04-2011 06:07 PM

My anger over this situation precludes me from making adult comments. The dumb a$$ in the truck deserves a one way fishing trip off Okaloosa Island. You know, the kind where a Mackrel is implanted in his swim shorts and he is thrown overboard into shark infested waters. Preferably with Bull sharks which frequent the northern gulf coast.

My mature and adult comment is to hope and pray for his health and a full recovery and trust that our judicial system will handle the guy in the truck. I wish I could make more sane comments and offer more words of strength for the victim- I keep coming back to tar, feathers and a baseball bat for the pickup truck driver so I'll end on that.

Calebluna 11-04-2011 06:16 PM

Just found out that Sean (Z driver) only met the girl passenger when he was leaving the club because she came up to him and asked for a ride home and her boyfriend (driver of the truck) saw her get in so he went into his rampage which caused the accident.....

Cmike2780 11-04-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna (Post 1392614)
Just found out that Sean (Z driver) only met the girl passenger when he was leaving the club because she came up to him and asked for a ride home and her boyfriend (driver of the truck) saw her get in so he went into his rampage which caused the accident.....

That's even more messed up. We're all pulling for him.:tiphat:

Cyberium 11-04-2011 07:32 PM

Cale,

If there is anything we can do... let us know. I'm sure the Z community will come together to help a fallen brother. By the sounds of things, he was only trying to do a good deed and things got out of control.

sonic370 11-04-2011 08:25 PM

it's hard to make a fair judgement call without all the facts.. sounds like the guy in the truck has anger management issues.......

bad deal all the way around... but proves once again and i don't blame the driver of the 370. but in the wrong hands these cars can kill.....

hope the z driver recovers fully.............

mjg 11-04-2011 08:41 PM

Looking at that picture is painful.. If you walk away alive from that, you are truly lucky.

Amuse370z 11-04-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1391185)
Remember. 102ft makes the Z the fastest stopper on a production car under 100k and possibly over as well. Stopping on the street is the Z's forte.

Can I get more info on this?

Calebluna 11-04-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 1392719)
Cale,

If there is anything we can do... let us know. I'm sure the Z community will come together to help a fallen brother. By the sounds of things, he was only trying to do a good deed and things got out of control.

Thanks for the support guys, Sean is strong I'm sure he will make through. All we really can do is pray and hope he does.

travnflorida 11-05-2011 03:04 PM

Man thats on the road i live on too


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