It just one of those things that got pushed out there IMO. The 350 got pushed out from a long absent and it had minor flaws and now the VVEL which most believe is the cause behind higher oil temps. A lot of this has to be kept in mind when considering the cost of the car and what your getting. Which I can defiantly more than live with. If Nissan address many issue I couldn't mod my car and it would be a 50k car.

Even though Nissan is adding a cooler it's mostly only going to be for DD or city driving. Which makes me wonder if Nissan is going to be using a heat exchanger for there setup which would be a big plus.

I am curious as to which size oil cooler will come standard.

That's why I was hoping it would be a bigger radiator with a heat exchanger. Then a couple of small heat issue could be helped. Then you wont have external cooler.

They will just remove the gauge, issues solved

No. Would I have found value in waiting a year or more to finally enjoy my car. No. What is the delta between the MSRP 2009 and the 2012 when they were new? My oil cooler was $880 installed at the dealership. Less than a few dollars a day at worst.

I've gotten over it. I hope you can too.

hummmm...! so they designed the Z for lazy fat midwesteners... ok.. not good. i need to get a oil cooler just to be not stereotyped as fat. :D

That's so very true for DD abd small events like auto x

This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.

yah, i dont care if it's not free either.

I like your attitude. I must admit I should have known about the oil cooler before hand yet I didn't realize it until after my purchase and still I do not care.

A nice gesture from Nissan would be to discount future OC purchases to those who now need/want them. I would be excluded since I already got one. Besides the dealer ate labor anyway.

Too late, I do not understand your fat reference, but you've already been stereotyped as Asian, and that is not fat. :tup: :icon17:

Most of the people pissing over it have never seen the track or even autox. They keep this magic number in their head of 190 as the guideline since that's how cars were built back in the days. With stricter emission, better oil and materials, car engines are running hotter and hotter in order to meet it. Most cars' operating temperature are in the low 200 range as they are more efficient at that temperature. If the gauge was never put in the car, half the people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between 200F and 250F. Did it bother me at first? Sure. Yet I have gotten over it, I barely look at the gauge at this point.

I think that at most the only thing that is fair to ask of Nissan is that if an OEM cooler is installed at a dealership it will be warrantied as though it were an OEM component on THAT car.

Very impressed if Nissan really is doing this. I would also expect to see "soft" changes, such as maybe some insulation added, a few very minor suspension tweaks, etc. Every car manufacturer does this that I know of. They just don't publicize any of the "soft" changes unless you really dig.

All that being said, nowhere on Nissan's site is the oil cooler mentioned. It is not mentioned in the 2012 Owner's manual, either.

If it really does exist, then GM had better do well with the C7. Looking to down-size in another year and the 370Z remains at the top of my list, just waiting to see what GM and Nissan do with their platforms.

(Does this mean we will FINALLY get some ring times now that the car can make it around the 'ring?)

I have seen the track. I don't fret at 190,220 or 250 even. Its when I see my engine hitting 260 and I haven't really pushed it. This issue wasn't even real to me in my 09. Zenobia was my baby. Near 150mph and staying in that range, keeping my RPM's in the high 4000
Rpm's and all my car would see is 250 degrees. Now my car sees a little action on a hot day and I see 260. That's wack. Straight up and down, it should have been added.

Some of you act like people are whining because they want something else for free. Like getting this oil cooler is some kind of envy for pre 12 owners. On ghe contrary, we are mostly happy. Its just this has been an issue since june of 09. Of all the wannabe complaints like... oh it rides to rough or its too loud or it doesn't have backseats or have the other bulls**t complaints that run around this forum. The oil issue has been well documented for years. Many of us aggressive or track drivers have seen it at one time of our lives and I don't think its too much to ask for those"WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT TO WARRANTY THE PART."

I'm not the only one buying nissan after nissan. Plenty of us own 3 or more nissans currently as I. Some of you talk like getting a warranteed oil cooler asking for a handout. When I'm on my next purchase, my confidence in my brand of choice won't be jaded by the rep of band aid fixes versus complete resolution of the problem for all customers. They haven't even sold a whole 40k units in all these years and they will probably only sell 5000 coolers at best. So just warranty the part at least as an act of good faith on standing by a performance product.

NOBODY'S GETTING MAD NOBODY SAID FREE. ONLY WARRANTIED. :roflpuke2:

I don't blame you for complaining as I have plenty of gripes over Nissan myself, and I have owned plenty of Nissans myself (I just recently had my $30 oil change taken away because I was 8 miles over the contract). I just think you are barking up the wrong tree and are getting too worked up over nothing. If you are consistently getting into limp mode, then yes I would be pissed and it is tough to swallow paying that $600. I just think it isn't as big of a problem as you think as most people are not going to hit 150mph (the only track that can get that fast are rovals since no tracks in NOrth America will let a stock Z hit 150mph due to the room it needs) nor will they hit limp mode everyday on their way to work. Where do you stop? Are you going to recall every car for fuel starvation too? I would argue that's a bigger issue and it can be a safety thing, same with the inaccurate fuel gauge.

Since this is turning into a Mustang forum, what about guys who bought a 2010 and got a 4.6L motor? Should they recall their cars and install a 5.0? I just don't think any manufactures are going to risk that much unless it is safety.

I would be curious to see what kind of cooler is it, I am willing to bet it is an oil warmer on the oil filter.

I think the people who say you only need an oil cooler if you track your Z simply are ones that have a Z that doesn't run hot. They all aren't created equal. I know mine was hitting 250 just on the highway cruising at highway speeds when it was hot out. Even when it was really cold out and cruising on the highway it would be at least 220.

I am happy to hear they are finally making it a stock option on the car. I definitely don't regret getting the oil cooler for my Z.

does anyone know what size the new stock oil cooler will be? 19 or 25 row?

Really dude??? Are truely serious with this comparison???? Are you like 23 or something that basic business sense doesn't quite compute yet? I don't see 350z owners asking for VQ37HR's. I just see some of us asking for a $400 retail part to be OFFERED as a part at the dealership FOR PURCHASE that will be covered under the remainder of our powertain warranties or give us 12/12 on the part for cars with 60/120k miles.

AND YOU'RE WRONG! BMW RETROFITTED FREE OIL COOLERS ON 07 AND 08 3 SERIES. SO A CAR COMPANY DID DO IT. Ithose years the average 3 series purchase cost 38 to 44k. The same range most of us are buying Z's

I'M NOT EXPECTING Nissan to go above and beyond and give out 45k units in free oil coolers "LIKE BMW DID IN 08". And the 3 series is not considered a sports car. I would just like the option to purchase one with some protection for my 38k purchase. Do you buy a computer with the 3 year protection plan? They need to offer this part because my ADDING THE OIL COOLER IN 2012. NISSAN IS BASICALLY ADMITTING THEY "FVVKD UP. So they can at least come half correct?

IN REALITY. I'm going FI. The nissan issue oil cooler will probably be to small for the added power. I will most likely need more rows than they will offer. Its just about being good businessmen and offering a RETROFIT for for a fee on their high performance vehicle.

i am betting a sandwitch adapter type like the 350 and most cars

Sorry guys,

But please cite your source which says Nissan Z 2012 will have an oil cooler. I am not talking about gossip car sites, I am referring an official press release or nissan site where u build your car..

Cheers,

Spot on....:tup: :tiphat:

2012 Nissan 370Z Pricing Starts At $31,450

2012 Nissan 370Z to Start at $32,210 - WOT on Motor Trend

Cool ..thanks

I have a letter sent to Corporate Nissan USA in regards to finding out what the gameplan is for 2009-2011 Z owners.

From my take, the dealers told me they were against installing an oil cooler as it's an aftermarket part, but, now, w/ the 2012 release, I don't see how their argument is justified, when the same engine from previous years now has a standard oil cooler.


Hopefully corporate can provide an answer.

Will keep you guys posted.

Any support you may need? Just pm or post a thread and I got your back. :)

well its 3 years to late. i won't hold my breath waiting for a letter from nissan
telling me to come get my new oil cooler. luckily over heating hasn't been a problem for me. but i know it has been for others...

let me put another spin on this. i'm betting nissan is getting ready for 2013 or 2014 for a complete redo of the z with at least 375-400 hp and no way these
newer models would do without a oil cooler.. imho

I agree but don't hold your breath until you see the new G37 or G first. The year after you will see a new Z. That's not going to happen quite yet. The altima and sentra will get new models next year. The maxima will see a dramatic refresh. The versa cube and trucks will get nothing until the new Z comes out. After all these refreshes, you will see the new G. Then you will see the new Z. So in late 2014: you will see a 2015:

I don't track my car but have seen temps get up to about 260 in spirited mountain driving. While it would be nice of Nissan to retrofit coolers to older 370Z's for free I don't expect it and those of you who do are probably going to be disappointed so quit whining.
That being said, I'm going to continue to monitor the information about the cooler as more concrete data becomes known. I would pay $600-$800 for a dealer installed, warrantied part and chalk it up to experience. That would be worth it for peace of mind in my opinion.

Even if Nissan provides an oil cooler it is probably going to be very small and only suitable for daily driving and not extended spirited driving or track days. I don't know why everyone is still making a big deal out of this issue. If you did your research before buying the car you knew that the oil heat issue was there, chuck up the $400-$600 dollars depending on how big of a cooler you want and get it installed with your next oil change its really not all that difficult.

Hahahaha:icon18: bladeZ this is the Z forums not the gencoupe forums. What the hell is that post about???? Are you the sudden predictor that nissan will install a sh1t product? What proof do you have of this???? I haven't found a sh1t part in my car yet. My car is well built. Unless you are pushing 500+hp, why do you need a large oil cooler??? The smallest oil cooler will probably suffice for street and light track duty. For this car to be safe. It needs about a 20 degree drop. Nothing more. The right synthetic and the smallest oil cooler available with k&n filters will keep this car as kool as you need it.

Where do you want me to start, I love the Z but I can name a few. Stock stereo blows, bose system blows, brake fluid and stock brake sport pads blow. M6 transmission blows, way to clunky, VLSD blows, stock exhaust system way to restrictive. Nissan didn't put an oil cooler to cut price in the first place, they aren't going to come down from the heavens with a great oil cooler especially since for all "regular" purposes the car drives just fine without one.

oh and I forgot but I'm sure the track guys didn't the fuel starvation issue, there has yet to be a mass produced affordable solution though I know it is being worked on. Until then, expect to experience significant power loss and being forced to always top off your tank at the track.

With all that said I still love my Z, never going to give her up but she definitely has her flaws, I just think the flaws can be resolved rather easily but I understand people complaining about these "necessary" additions to properly experience their new Z's.

tell us how you really feel.

Sure! I love my Z, she's my baby and I'm going to keep her for a loooong time, God willing.

Does it bother anyone else that some cars never have the problem, and some have it pretty bad? Since we have the fortunate example of the same driver of a 2009 without and a 2011 with, it seems like there must something fairly significant different in individual engines to cause this.

BladeZ, where in ny you're from?

It would be great if most of us on this forum can start a dialogue w/ corporate and see what their plan is for 2009 - 2012, knowing there is an issue which warranted the oil cooler on 2012 as standard equipment.


Everyone has an opinion on this subject, and alot of folks cry and whine and become complacent and deal w/ it, but unless owners speak up, and be proactive, nothing will get done.

Please refer to this link for potential contacts:

Nissan and Infiniti - Nissan North America Media Contacts

Like the oil consumption issue... I think there's just a little too much variance in how the engines are being assembled.

Throw in the different theories and applications of break-in procedures and there you go...

Nissan's are pretty well built -- but they ain't quite Toyota or Honda just yet.

Hmm. Even though I don't desperately need it... after all this talk, now I want a Nissan oil cooler too. Wah. :shakes head:

BTW, go to the consumer page for NissanUSA (the link above just forwards matters like this to them anyway) if you want to email them -- just did that myself.

Link--> http://www.nissanusa.com/apps/contactus