Yeah I have def never gotten "cute" before but I actually have heard badass a few times. Especially after people have heard my exhaust :tup:

The fact that Nissan got it to where a driver coming from a Ferrari would say that speaks volumes. The 370z is just so close to being perfect and it's all the little things that's holding it back. That's the disappointment.

More solid motor mounts, smoother, quicker and smoother shifting transmission, suspension tuning, engine note, throttle response, removing the clutch pedal spring, lighter flywheel and pulleys, etc. I don't think it's all that difficult or unreliable for Nissan to tighten up this type of stuff. Whether it be a business decision or that someone from the dept. of luxury engineering got their hands on it mucked it up, it wasn't a great decision.

I understand that's where modding comes in but it should come from the factory a sports car and not a more "sportified G37 coupe".

Some stranger on the sidewalk called my car a "Ferrari"...

You may be disappointed, but I and a number of others are not. We love driving the Z.

Neither you nor I are right or wrong. The car meets my needs. It apparently does not meet yours.

Nonsense, nonsense nonsense dude, I get the total opposite, looks like you need a Nismo :stirthepot: :icon17: and the proper attire when driving.
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I have no idea how to reply to that statement Shado. I'm actually scared to come up with a statement with words like "Z drivers" and "metrosexual tendencies" in the same sentence. so I will bow out with style.:icon17:

I think I need a hat... Al's hat. :bowrofl:

:icon18:
lol

:icon18: You do need Al's hat, just the sight of him in that hat would make a lesbian turn straight in a blink of an eye.

lol!! :bowrofl:

do you need a tissue?

Dear Mr. Kenchan,

F8ck you too.

ZzzZz

reported for the use of the f-word! :mad:

:rofl2:

:tiphat:

You succeeded. If that somehow satisfies you; I can only feel sorry for you.

Never had an issue with the steering on my S2k. :driving:

I think the 370z is a bit more than a sportified G37. All those things you listed above are of course completely possible for Nissan to do. BUT, it requires additional R&D which means more money. More money in the research, development and production phases means passing this cost on to consumers which Nissan saw as something they couldn't afford.

For me, the fact that the car is as competent as it is for a low to mid $30k car is pretty amazing. It may not be the most refined in some areas, but it is a very reliable and robust entry level sports car with great performance.


My opinion on my Z:

I have had my car for roughly a year and 3 months now and I have loved every minute of it. After adding an oil cooler and select bolt ons, I feel as if my Z is the perfect balance of power, handling, and comfort. It can outperform many much more expensive and powerful cars and it looks unique and special, one thing that I hold as an important factor in the Z.

As for the complaints of transmission refinement, noise levels and a rough feeling engine at high rpms, I actually enjoy them. Quarks are what give a car character, and those attributes make the 370z feel raw and almost 'back to the basics' in a day and age where car companies are fighting to make the smoothest and most refined cars.

The only thing I will say that I notice and don't like is the way the 6mt shifts, especially when cold. However, I am going to be putting some Redline trans fluid in soon which many have found to help with smoother shifting, less drivetrain noise and a more enjoyable MT experience in general. But if you look at how the stock manual trans can handle 500-600rwhp without even breaking a sweat, those quibbles quickly don't seem to be that bad anymore.

yep agreed, the S2K's have very nimble handling but unless one totally f-ked up the alignment or messed up the wheels/suspension setup it should drive very solidly straight or through the corners.

hello, mr. onzedge! :tup:

hope your trip is going well.

...back to zzZZzzZz's :yawn: topic...

Thank you Mr. Kenchan. I am back as of this morning. :hello:

sounds good! so you're enjoying your Z today. :tup:

I drove the Echo today -- my wife is still in SD and it was wet up here. The Z's are all nice and clean and I did not have the heart to take either of them through puddles today.

Hey, wrong thread:p

How would you describe the driving feel of the Echo?

Would you say it's too raw or too refined?

Did Toyota not decide who they were making the car for?

I was going to answer this, but I am too busy choking on my lunch -- Very Good, Shado.

yah, that's a good idea indeed! :tup:

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:bowrofl: hahaha!

THIS THIS THIS THIS! :iagree: with a rep point.

People are so lost in articles and comparisons of tech and speed that they forget balance. Back to basics. Those are the words that sum up the Z. A true drivers car. Turn that VDC off and feel what this car is. Its what the best cars of the past with more precision, better track times, better gas mileage and a modernized suspension. I feel the old Z and porsches from yesterday. I feel the original M3. I feel the souls of so many of the past greats in one modern package. There's improvements that are needed. But JDM is all about personalization of excellent platforms and improving stock performance. Its just another way of percieving automotive or enjoyment. You adapt or you don't.
This car has its own mission while paying homage to the greats in its performance.

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa.... and you know, that was blatant sarcasm. Lol

:tup: ofcourse! :icon17:

zZZZzzZz doenst seem to get sarcasm.

Sounds like a MOD list to me. If that's what you need? Buy a sprint booster, customize your clutch, see stillen for a pulley and flywheel kit, and you're done. Cheaper than a ferrari huh???? You're BOGUS DUDE.

add washer mod. he can't tell. :D ;)

Yeah, some people don't have an issue with it.

There was nothing wrong with this particular car, it's a design issue, as I said, related to the electronic power steering.

The issue isn't that the car doesn't drive straight or handle nimbly, it's that there is little feedback from the wheel. It's a common complaint with the car.

Why I would notice it and not you two guys... I don't know for sure, but it's probably because I'm better than you. :happydance:

aha! very good example of sarcasm, loser! :icon17:

Been on here since 09. Just felt I'd like to contribute by posting my experiences and thoughts.

It's not everyone but, I didn't realize these forums has slowly turned into my350z.com. Where a bunch of a-holes congregate to talk about the crap that's coming out their rears.

I'm outta this sh!thole. Peace.

:stirthepot:

I see a major problem with what you wrote -- there seems to be a subject-verb agreement error. I thought you'd like to know. I like to help.

With that attitude, you won't be missed. :gtfo2:

there is no such thing as a perfect car especially if it is a production car. if you are a car enthusiast you will need to make some effort to make your car yours, not just drive a car designed for the large audience.

this forum has a lot of good info on DIY's available free to you. you should use it sometime and learn from it. expand on it. dont be such a whiner.

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Now he's going to have a bad day and cry to his mama.

Seriously, why do people come on forums and rant, yet expect to not be flamed when other people disagree, then the OP gets mad and starts being aggressive. Really? Grow some maturity, then come and post.

Be objective, show you have something you dislike and expect people to disagree, stop trying to convince others; specially when you say the car you have purchased is not what you expected.

Dont let the door hit you in the *** on your way out :icon17: