2011 Z Con Plaques/Certificate for Winners
 

Today is September 29 and I've yet to receive my 3rd place certificate from Z Con. I guess I should not expect to receive considering they put someone else's name next to my car. Maybe they sent it to him.

We were all informed that we would have it in 2-3 weeks. This was my first Z Con experience and most likely my last. The level of professionalism and customer service necessary to make members of the Z community want to participate in this event was non-existent. When you charge people $85 for registration and $60 to enter a cash show, you should have the trophies and plaques ready. After this post, I know I will not be receiving one ever :tup:

I was at Z Nationals last weekend, and no one was told that their plaque would be mailed to them. I already expressed my disappointment in the way the show was judged, so I'm not going to get into that. Kevr6 got robbed by a stock nismo.

If any of you are considering participating in ZCon in the near future, I strongly encourage you to read some of the posts about this year's Z Con before you do so.

WOW, some of the post that I have read sounded like it was a nice Z event... :dunno:

I don't want plague mailed to me. A plaque...that's different.

lol at "ZCON Plagues" :bowrofl: sorry to hear that james... i can't say that i'm surprised though. that's one thing about zdayz and z nationals. they make a huuuuuge effort to have trophies/plaques at the event and the only reason a person wouldn't get one if they won is if they weren't at the awards banquet, in which case they are shipped the following monday.

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Z1804,

The activities of being Chairman for a convention is well outside the norm for most people who have held the position. If you can find one that was in the profession of any part of the hats I wore as chairman, I would be well beyond shocked. I took on the task for a number of reasons, none of which included disappointing you or anyone else.

As with most things that a person has never done, the first time is almost never as well done as a second or third time. I apologize for disappointing you, and hope you will not allow my failure to affect your attendance at next years Zcon.

That said,
Talking to me about the 24th ZCON will get things done, griping on a forum that I do not frequent generally will not. I would never have seen this post if a friend had not alerted me to it. If your intent is to actually change the situation, communicate with those who are in the thick of actively handling it. Calling the newspaper to report a fire has very little chance of getting the fire department to respond to it in time to make a difference.
The certificates are almost ready,and will be mailed out next week.

William Stokes
Chairman: 24th Annual ZCCA International Convention

FYI
Call the Savannah International Trade and Convention Center and ask for the cost to rent the entire International Trade and Convention Center for two days, their Parking Lot for the seven days, be sure to include their security. You will find out that the cost of the Convention Center alone was FAR more than the $145 you paid for registering for the Car Show and the Convention-and that does not include the cost of the other facilities we made available to you, the services we provided, or the Insurance we had to obtain.

No offense man, but last years trophies took forever to get out as well. Almost a year later in fact for some. So if the fire department has been late to every fire in the entire district, why bother calling them the next time there is a fire? by your own analogy.

Jus sayin yo.

I know at Z Nats I heard at least a dozen people say there not going to ZCON next year that they were going to just spend there money going to ZDayz. To here this over several days from many people is disturbing.

So don't say your going to give things out when you can't afford it!

It's like me saying I will give the next person to say hi to me an Enzo, then telling them after they "win". Did you know those things cost $1,200,000. PLUS SHIPPING. Sorry bro cant be done

Hey "Bro",

Did you actually read what I actually wrote?

If you think you did, show me where I said I am not giving the awards because I can't afford it.

Little mad are we?

I didn't mean anything bad from it man. In your FYI you say how expensive everything is. My point is, if everything is to expensive then don't give put rewards etc. He said in his comment that he shouldn't have to wait so long when he paid X amount. Youre response to that was how expensive everything was...

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

As far as I know the OPIQ has NEVER contacted me about his certificate!
-just sayin yo.


But, you have a good point. I never intended for these to be so late, but for a number of reasons they are.
We handed out the coins on site-because they made it in time, but there is no way to have individually customized certificates for 140 people done in two hours even if the pre-printed certificates had been on time, and done right-they were not. I have been through three professional printing vendors since, who have told me they could do what I wanted and none has been successful. I have punted and accepted that they will not be as I intended, but they will be done as close as I can muster.
The certificates are having pictures of the awarded car printed on them. Call any awards company you want and ask them how long it will take a professional company set up for this work to produce those once they have the photos, now remember that I am one guy with a family(a working wife, a 4yr old and a 6yr old)-you saw them at the convention-a job, a mortgage and a life, most of which I put on hold to get this ready for you more than a year before the convention, and here we are a couple of months later and I still have much of my life on hold while I sew these things up. Just sayin yo

Now, back to reality, who is really getting any crap for not having their certificate? Have the police knocked on the door and threatened to cart you off because your certificate has not arrived? Are you waiting for a discount on your rent/house payment/the underware of a hot chick to melt off because you have a certificate? I guarantee that no one with any authority will come try to take your Z/fine you/beat you senseless because you don't have it yet-if they do show them the coin-they are numbered and listed to verify the award.

That said

Zdayz is an outstanding event, that is why I attend, volunteer, and support it and Brian and the entire Zdayz team whole-heartedly! But, ZdayZ is not a week long event in a different location every year, with a new team putting it on. Ask Brian about the growth and changes ZdayZ has gone through since the first one-I know he has stories-I have heard them. Comparing any Zcon to a current Zdayz is not a red Z34 to silver Z34 comparison, they are too different.

I'm with this guy :iagree:

^ lol

I agree on one major thing with Zcon2011. The logistics involved in these events is an enormous undertaking. I did not attend because of limited funds this year, and next year is unlikely, since it is in Phoenix and that's too much of a drive. However, I've heard from several attendees that it offers unique opportunities and experiences. If it returns east some time soon, I may attend.

I understand there's frustration, but I agree, this could have been dealt with privately first.

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I am not angry at all-a little surprised with the passion in your comment you didn't at least acknowledge what I actually wrote in what you replied to it!

Did you read his comment:
"The level of professionalism and customer service necessary to make members of the Z community want to participate in this event was non-existent. When you charge people $85 for registration and $60 to enter a cash show, you should have the trophies and plagues ready. After this post, I know I will not be receiving one ever "

My point was to let him know the money he paid had nothing to do with the awards.
I would venture a guess he received his coin(pictured below) at the awards ceremony, all but a few picked them up. I also shared the information I had on the timeliness of the rest of the award going out-unfortunately it turned out to be wrong...repeatedly. He will get his award-as I said, it was never my intention to disappoint anyone-and he was awarded! This is just one of those times when the best intentions got me bitten in the *** repeatedly-and not in the I'd liked to have had repeated!

I hate it when that happens-the dropped animation...
:bowrofl:
If I see you at ZdayZ next year, I will get you the beverage of your choice!

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i didn't realize these trophies/"plagues" were engraved with the winners names. that's whole different animal. i could see that being a logistical nightmare. that's all and good but that sounds a little too complicated to me... or if you wanted to make nice certificates at the event, seems like someone could print them on prepared certificates just filling in their names. then the winners could have their awards before they leave instead of relying on getting them in the mail months later

dont you dare compare a red z34 to a silver. Red is better. Although not as good as white and thats a fact... no matter what someone in a black cherry z34 says.

The coins were individually numbered-serialized(some were engraved with Z models-like the one I pictured), the certificates will have the owners name and the picture of the awarded car on them.
I had planned to take the pictures in front of a chroma screen as the cars were brought into the convention center, but a combination of circumstance prevented me from getting the chroma screen set up prior to loading up the convention center-so we had to take pictures in place, and that too has been a source of problems for the background of the certificates-Remember I am not a professional (or even an amateur) Graphics person.

Love the color of your car....

Thanks, i'd love to have a 300TT one day also.

I'll be tacking a tt into mine one day-after I get everything else ready...
Brakes...check
Wheels..check
Suspenion.....checking...

But there is a silver Nismo that is just calling my name....

ZCon 2012 is gonna be in Phoenix?? :icon08:

white Z's are for schoolgirls and men who role play as schoolgirls to meet guys.

Yeah, you're comin.

lolwut? I'm already committed to Zdayz and Z Nationals next year, and I don't see myself driving more than a day each way.

that's what she said?

/threadjack

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:bowrofl:

Who said you'd have to drive? Fly out. :tup:

pay for that plane ticket, ok? Oh, and convince my bosses to give me another week of vacation. :bowrofl:

That would require a plane ticket going the other way and access to your bosses' desks for Cwiz :roflpuke2: