New Car and Driver review of the 370z... oil temp fail!

Hambone1 · 09-11-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakes709

When i was talking about the VDC, i wasnt talking about it on the track. I not only had it turned off, i had the harness pulled out. I'm talking about DD, mainly in the winter. The VDC screwed me up so many times i got sick of it. You can barely get moving with it on. It would actualy make me feel like im loosing control in a turn, even on ice. I can take a turn normally or even with my *** end sliding out and be in control 100%, but the second VDC kicks in, it sends the car all over the place. As where as the Evo's systems it doesnt make huge/noticeable corrections. Yes i know its AWD, but i feel more safe if i know whats going to happen and what i can expect. The VDC system was like "oh ****! gotta do this NOW!!" the Evo's system is like "ok sweet, the guy is having issues, lets help him out abit"

Now for the track since the system in the Evo is alot more advance i went with traction control off (1 push of the button) and left the rest of the systems on. Next time when i feel more comfortable ill turn all the systems off (hold for 3 secs) just to see how the car handles when it doesnt have the AYC and all that stuff.

And yet your point is invalid to me. You never tracked either cars and i doubt you owned a evo either. So until you have taken both cars on the track, your posts are useless to me, kbye

Dude...who uses the phrase "kbye" and is not a 17 year old girl? It's been pretty amusing sitting this one out and watch you make a fool of yourself. You bought a two seat coupe, and were disappointed by the lack of storage capacity, all along knowing you were in the military and would likely need to move your stuff with said vehicle? Are you simple? And again, you bought a RWD sports car and were distraught by it's lack of abilities in the snow? I say good riddance to a tool like you, the 370Z community is better off without you.

cossie1600 · 09-10-2011, 06:18 PM

It's great for guys who can't drive, it's useless if you are trying to compete for lap times. It kicks on way too easily, it doesn't allow you to apply gas off the apex if there is too much side load. It's worse than the regular mode for the Corvette, heck my Prius allows me to slide more. I ran about 5+ sec slower with it on than off at a 3.5 miles track.

Heck, it freaking kicked on at about 120mph when a small crosswind hit the car down the straight. No joke, caught on video!

ihatepotholes · 09-11-2011, 02:42 AM

people are still arguing about evo vs 370? evo is a far better machine on the track, it is evo's bread and butter. live with it.

Methodical4u · 09-11-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

people are still arguing about evo vs 370? evo is a far better machine on the track, it is evo's bread and butter. live with it.

Why did it have a slower lap time in the article? Why does it have slower lap times in other articles? You don't even know what you're talking about. The Evo is a great car, but the only thing that helps it vs. the 370 is the AWD and the S-AWC system... the aftermarket for Mitsu being so large also is a HUGE help.

DJ-of-E · 09-11-2011, 04:22 AM

Dude, can we close this thread. It's starting to annoy me.

jaxxx · 09-11-2011, 06:11 AM

hahahah the 370z fan boys area all over this one

Alchemy · 09-11-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxxx

hahahah the 370z fan boys area all over this one

Well it is a 370z forum..........

KaienZ34 · 09-11-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Well it is a 370z forum..........

If he doesn't like it he should go troll his bMw forum, but maybe he was already banned from it....user647_pic11042_1266642935.gif

Alchemy · 09-11-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

If he doesn't like it he should go troll his bMw forum, but maybe he was already banned from it....Attachment 34480

I just dont get it, I own a Z so Im part of the Z forums. Do people actually join this site just to sh¡T talk?? Truely incredible.

tmfrzr · 09-11-2011, 09:15 AM

BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps

Nissan 370Z 1.27.5
Audi RS5 1.27.5 (m)
Subaru Cossie 1.27.7 (w)
Camaro 1.27.9
BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
Roush Mustang 1.28.0
Renault Megane R26R 1.28.1
BMW Z4 1.28.2
Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2
Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2
BMW X5M 1.28.2
Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22
Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9

Enough Said.

Alchemy · 09-11-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tmfrzr

BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps

Nissan 370Z 1.27.5
Audi RS5 1.27.5 (m)
Subaru Cossie 1.27.7 (w)
Camaro 1.27.9
BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
Roush Mustang 1.28.0
Renault Megane R26R 1.28.1
BMW Z4 1.28.2
Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2
Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2
BMW X5M 1.28.2
Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22
Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9

Enough Said.

Thank you, I wanted to pull that up and post it yesterday but was too lazy.
End of discussion.

Red__Zed · 09-11-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Thank you, I wanted to pull that up and post it yesterday but was too lazy.
End of discussion.

power laps aren't really the be-all end-all judge of a cars performance, just to be fair. TGTT is designed to be fun to watch cars go around, rather than an real judge.

tmfrzr · 09-11-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

power laps aren't really the be-all end-all judge of a cars performance, just to be fair. TGTT is designed to be fun to watch cars go around, rather than an real judge.

It may not be the Nurburgring, but I don't plan on driving the Nurburgring on a daily basis. The TGTT, in my opinion, mimics a lot of what I incur on a daily basis in the Z (more acceleration than top speed).

It's a valid enough source for me to form a conclusion and is, in my opinion, one of the few sources which compiles the results in an apple-to-apple comparison with limited subjectivity (the Stig is relatively consistent).

Red__Zed · 07-20-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tmfrzr

It may not be the Nurburgring, but I don't plan on driving the Nurburgring on a daily basis. The TGTT, in my opinion, mimics a lot of what I incur on a daily basis in the Z (more acceleration than top speed).

It's a valid enough source for me to form a conclusion and is, in my opinion, one of the few sources which compiles the results in an apple-to-apple comparison with limited subjectivity (the Stig is relatively consistent).

On what do you base the claim of consistency?

Weather conditions alone vary dramatically, and each car gets tested on a unique day.

Pharmacist · 09-11-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tmfrzr

BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps

Nissan 370Z 1.27.5
Audi RS5 1.27.5 (m)
Subaru Cossie 1.27.7 (w)
Camaro 1.27.9
BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0
Roush Mustang 1.28.0
Renault Megane R26R 1.28.1
BMW Z4 1.28.2
Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2
Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2
BMW X5M 1.28.2
Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22
Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9

Enough Said.

i believe the evo was the UK-only fq300 model. It has the twin clutch SST gearbox and tuned to produce 300 hp and 300 lb ft of torque.

09-10-2011, 06:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	It's great for guys who can't drive, it's useless if you are trying to compete for lap times. It kicks on way too easily, it doesn't allow you to apply gas off the apex if there is too much side load. It's worse than the regular mode for the Corvette, heck my Prius allows me to slide more. I ran about 5+ sec slower with it on than off at a 3.5 miles track. Heck, it freaking kicked on at about 120mph when a small crosswind hit the car down the straight. No joke, caught on video! Last edited by cossie1600; 09-10-2011 at 06:21 PM.

09-11-2011, 04:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
DJ-of-E Track Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Garden Grove, CA Posts: 676 Drives: 00 Toyota Celica 040 Rep Power: 16	Dude, can we close this thread. It's starting to annoy me. __________________

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ihatepotholes Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: nj Posts: 129 Drives: 2012 Boss 302 Rep Power: 16	people are still arguing about evo vs 370? evo is a far better machine on the track, it is evo's bread and butter. live with it.

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09-11-2011, 09:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
tmfrzr Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Neenah, WI Posts: 6 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16	BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps Nissan 370Z 1.27.5 Audi RS5 1.27.5 (m) Subaru Cossie 1.27.7 (w) Camaro 1.27.9 BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0 Roush Mustang 1.28.0 Renault Megane R26R 1.28.1 BMW Z4 1.28.2 Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2 Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2 BMW X5M 1.28.2 Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22 Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5 MG SV 1.28.6 Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9 Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9 Enough Said.