see my previous posts on car and driver.:icon17:

lol! :bowrofl: zing!

My gripe is that they rate the Z so low in the fun to drive when it, in reality, should be at the top of that list. Like another poster mentioned, they some of their editors obviously LOVE it; and I have never heard of the Z not being fun to drive. They are biased. The oil temp issue is well known, but I have not had any of the problems as noted on this forum at times.

The point is this: The Z is still well above par in the fun to drive, cool car for its catagory. With a few 'small' tweaks (oil cooler and brake pads if you must....) it is almost perfect in its class.

Bear in mind I do LOVE the Stang, and am considering an Evo (4 doors...), but the Z is still superior in my book. That said, everyone's book is different...

I didn't buy the 370Z because of the HP, I bought it because I like the car and the Heritage/History of the Z.
Yes is not a perfect car but is the best bang for the buck concerning Sport Cars. Some of those issue can be corrected easy.

The only part that makes me mad is that Nissan knew about those issues and did nothing to correct them pushing it to the customer.

However, if you do not track the Z you should not have any braking or oil cooling problems.

C&D and MotorTrend Magazines are always bias and will pick up any muscle car over the Z, even the damn Genesis Coupe. :shakes head: So what ever they write about the 370Z I wipe my butt with it...

Item in bold above should be funnest just in case folks mistook your message ;)

Agree

Agree 100% again.

Although to be fair, purchasing my Z was a close toss up between the 5.0. Funny that I am considering it again because my kids and the ability to bring them in the back seat.... we'll see.

But yes, as previously mentioned, would have been nice to be able to get an oil cooler as a dealer installed option, along with track pads.

Somehow I don't see how the brake pad and oil overheating problems in the 370Z, which generally only present themselves in track situations, compare to the Getrag MT82 transmission problems many Mustang GTs are having. While I think Ford's done a good job with the new 5.0, I think they really shot themselves in the foot with that Chinese POS tranny they opted for. Speaking of cutting costs.
Overall, I think the Z still wins.

From Edmunds:

"In Edmunds brake testing, a coupe with the Sport package's upgraded brakes stopped from 60 mph in a super-short 101 feet -- about the same as the outlandish Nissan GT-R supercar. A roadster with the Sport package took only 5 more feet to stop."

Seems ok to them!

As far as all the Mustang input here. When they get rid of the solid rear axle, I will consider it more of a sports car. More cheap cut corner engineering. Displacement no longer matters. When US manufacturers get out of the retro mode I will consider them again. The cars are just way too big/out of proportion. The mustang is more a GT touring coupe than 'sportscar'. Too big.

Abuse any car on a track with out prepping it first it will have problems, maybe not the same problems but problems none the less. Why are people so shocked by this?

One would think a car magazine would know without being reminded by the maker of the car in question lol! :)

I agree and I will add I did buy my Z knowing the overheating issues. I don't track. I don't knock any other cars because everyone has a preference and if they love their car good for them. I think the Z is a great car and that is all I care about.

No one in their right mind should be driving a car aggressively on track with stock pads, that's just insanity. They should be slapped for suggesting that it is possible at anything over a 50% pace.

It is clear that the lack of braking performance ate into there overall review, I know that I loose full confidence in a car on track if the brakes aren't 100%.

at least they ran into these problems and didn't even get as far as fuel starvation, they really would have loved that! Brakes and Oil cooler were easy fixes.

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I don't understand how they lapped it so many times, and never ran into that issue.

True, but the oil temp problem has been encountered by a semi-spirited drive up a public mountain road... That is unacceptable for any modern "sports" car.

I don't know how many laps Car and Driver did on their car straight with the stock pads and fluid (it makes sense how they dont want to do any prep work on the press cars), but man it seems like a bad idea on a track with some heavy braking zones. I know my brakes feel a little softer after 4 hot laps straight at VIR. Someone had said they don't use real professionals to drive the cars?

At the end of the day, not happy about the $1000 on the oil cooler and the fuel starvation. Brake pads and fluid are almost given on any track days