The 2012's have the oil/water cooler dealy-bob thingy.

My 2012 has had no oil temp or brake problems. Re break-in, it makes no sense to use synthetic in the first few thousand miles. You WANT the engine to wear a little bit and achieve proper tolerances. Then you can switch to synthetic to preserve the proper state. Overall, I think the break-in is much exaggerated with modern engines. It's not like the old days. They take brand-new cars out and run them on the track--for example, the GT-R. And the engine in the Z is one of the most highly developed, tweaked, and improved engines ever made. So some auto techies complain about high RPM rough sounds? Who cares?

I am buying an evo or brz....

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And selling the Z?

I know about your fuel starvation. Have you had oil temp issues as well?

I was only kidding about that. From the sound of car and driver, it sounds like the car is going to blow up anyday and I will buy an EVO to satisfy the trollsters

Common sense tells me that I should as it is too expensive for what I use it for, but I am having a tough time pulling the trigger. What other car can I buy for the money that can deliver the same performance? I guess the Mustang, but they are too darn ugly to me. (no offense to all the 5.0 lovers)

I have had an oil cooler on the car since my first oil change. Never really had a problem with it.

My 2012 was running 210 - 220 degrees with 50 miles on it in stop and go traffic, in over 100 degree temps the day I bought it, shifting under 4K RPM. Felt a little heat-soaked, too, but it went away as soon as I got out of the creep-and-shift stuff.

I can't wait to see how it does in more normal temps and once it's had a proper break-in.

I get the same thing in traffic, unless the AC is on, which keeps the temps at a steady 200.

A tune (with fan control altered to come on earlier on), according to many guys who've had it done, keeps the temps between 180-200 at all times.

If you're gonna ride her like a cheap carnival pony (because you should :)), then an aftermarket proper oil-cooler setup seems to be a must.

That will be my last mod before I track the car. Got quiet a bit to outfit her with first.

220F average for me which is more than normal even during the hot summer this year. absolutely no issue.

only magazine spec racers and true track folks need oil coolers imho.

Exactly. That is also where I average on my 09. In the high 80s, low 90s with horrible humidity, Ive seen 205-225 as a temperature range. The highest oil temp I saw is 230 and it was 95 degrees out and it was a spirited drive. Ive noticed the Z really heats up the oil when the rpms are over 4K for a while (downshifting/high revs, acceleration).

Ok, first, obviously we all have different ideas of "spirited driving"

BUT

If you've got an '09-11 and you go to the track, you probably will have oil temp issues. Anyone who is serious about tracking spends 500 bucks on an oil cooler - problem fixed. You will also bake the stock braking fluid. It is not meant to handle that kind of abuse. Replace it with higher tolerance braking fluid - problem mostly solved.

Fuel starve is the only track issue that has been largely unaddressed, but it looks like phunk is coming up with an ample solution.


For day to day driving, most of these issues shouldn't arise, unless you're really goosing it. Only time I experienced brake fade was after an 11 hr drive, on stock brake fluid.

:iagree:, but worth noting that pads will need to be swapped as well for any sort of track use.

Well to me there is a difference between spirited driving on the streets and track driving. I was specifically commenting on spirited driving on the street as was Kenchan. Im no fool, I know it isnt going to be worth anything on a track without an oil cooler unless Im running 1/8th and 1/4 mile runs.

Again, there are different ideas for spirited driving.

Also, on a hot enough day, you can overheat the oil just by sitting in stop/go traffic.

But mostly, I agree.

Guess Ill experience the stop and go on a hot day in traffic sometime. I hope not to lol. Does it really get that bad in stop/go?