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I try to keep my cars 3 years. I got the Z early 09, so looks like parting out might happen soon. I really can't get over how "bulky" the mustang feels inside. Everything feels too heavy, like its not meant to be a sports car. Choices look like:

- 2010 M3
- 2009 GT-R
- 2010 Cayman S

Leaning towards that GT-R a lot, but its not realistic just yet since it's in the 60's+

That's it Steve... I'm calling in the infantry. Luna, Chuck, Kaien.... what do we have to say about this???

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A USED 09 GTR is still in the 60's? dayyyyyummmmm

have yall had any thought in maybe going older like lets say early 2000's z06 and moding it a little? Maybe not a z06 but you know, something not new that can be had at a good price with potential that wont break the bank?

wow,

thats crazy...

I ve also been thinking of getting into a civic or something so i can save for a GTR or porsche

test drove a little 09 civic dx with 20k on it for 13.5


am single now so allot has changed:tup:

But i have noticed a lot of z owners that have parted with their Z stayed in the nissan family and upgraded to a GTR. One of the locals is thinking about dropping his Z for a 2012

Honestly I just want a solid DD, which is why I was thinking about maybe a 335i or M3.

But I think what I'm going to do is just keep the 5.0 around for a while. I'll probably pull some of the mods off of it just to keep it more civil, because when it's stock it's actually a really plush and comfy daily car... and Sync is awesome.

Gabe.... just curious, per your sig, why was your 2010 Z lemoned?!?!?!?

BAD oil consumption, almost 4 qt per 1k, no leaks, nothing. We went through this for 6 months straight where i would take it to the dealer, they would do the oil change, put tamper proof tape, and bring it back, sure as hell about 1qt left everytime. Thye gave me an option to replace the engine, or lemon it. The car was performing really bad

holy moly..... yeah that's crazy man. I hope mine is not like that. I'm monitoring mine real good now. So far, no consumption.

Sorry to hear about your predicament. No wonder you now have a Stang. :)

Does Lemon apply for how long after you bought the car?

im not sure if 'solid DD' and 335i/M3 go together....

not enough charburger compartments? :rofl2:

:rofl2: that too, but i was thinking more in terms of reliability...

You guys are nuts! So much waste, no matter how you are sitting financially IMHO.

Waste is what keeps the global fiat currency ponzi scheme alive. Debt = money.

Really like the M3, but have you gone to the website and "built" one? Base price is very affordable--and then you tack on the bare-bones necessaries and BAM :roflpuke2:

Yeah, it adds up QUICK! I think I'd look to buy a used one if I was going the M3 route.

I'm sure you "waste" money in my opinion, too.

Look at it this way, though. Me spending my money on things I want to buy, makes me smile. How is that a waste?

Do you think I am going to be laying in bed dying one day saying "Oh how I wish my bank-account were stronger right now and I had bought less of the things I desired in life. Woe is me for having purchased and enjoyed things when I could be laying here dying knowing that I had a massive nest-egg safely tucked away in my bank."

NO kidding. I was pricing one, because it was cheaper than the Z06, but once I added on minor stuff, like the sport package (odd that M3 doesn't have it in base trim...) selective ride, and NAV (I'm not a NAV fan, but it's a BMW, it needs...). Long story short, "my" M3 came in at nearly $70K.

M3 is over rated. Had it for 6 months before the accident. All ou pay for it the BMW name and a status.. Oh your drivin a m3. It's quick but the z is more fun to drive and doesn't cost as much to upgrade compare to the m

In all honesty it's still a great value if you are comparing it to a Porsche 911, though. A similarly equipped 911 would probably run you $105-115k.

"great value compared to a Porsche" is like a flu being "healthy compared to pneumonia". :bowrofl:

Luxury Performance cars are just that, luxury. They're a waste of money, and that's what makes them great.

I would think the sedan would feel a lot less nimble than a sports car.

People rant and rave about the 911, but in my experience they are nothing more than a 370Z with shitty weight distribution and a touch more power until you get into the TT and GT2/3 models, and those are FAR past the 100K mark.

I've been looking around and its a very sad thing, but you can get a GT-R for about the same price as an M3 these days. That's a hands down win for the GT-R.

Whoever said something about the reliability and daily drivability of the M3 and 335...those two cars are the definition of GREAT daily drivers. Much more so than the GT-R, specially when you consider that BMW offers FREE maintenance, rotors, oil, brake pads, etc.

Porsche would be nice too, but you're looking at a pre-pdk cayman or an older Carrera for a similar price of -- you guessed it-- a GT-R. Problem with porsche is that you're buying a car out of warranty so if something breaks....well....there goes that trip to the bahamas you were planning.

yah, i dont have time to be taking the car in for stupid repairs regardless of free maintenance. nothing's free btw, you just pay it upfront. :D

They are fairly reliable cars these days...makes more sense for the company to do that when they are offering free maintenance. Yeah the M3 is expensive, but you do get a lot of car for the money regardless, specially when you buy it slightly used. You end up paying mid 60s low 70s for an 80k car.

gtrs are closing in on 100k, and you can snag an m3 for 50k.

First, I have heard that the 335's TT setup is not very reliable. I don't have hard facts on that, and maybe it was addressed at some point, but I heard that motor takes a beating.

Secondly, BMW offers free maintenance for the life of the warranty, after which your wallet will asplode. Same with most German makes. You pay that up front. It's part of the premium. If you plan on owning after warranty, it's pricey. A member here sold his 911 for a Z because he was tired of paying maintenance and repair costs.

So, you gotta pay to play. If you've got the cheddar, then good for you.

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hummmmm... okay cause when i had the MINI which is your poorman's BMW, it wasn't a reliable car at all. and the stories i hear from 335i coupe owners that i know, they keep having annoying little issues with their cars.

i want to reconsider getting the 135i coupe or even the 3-series after my G35C's done as my dd... so if they are getting their shitt together, that's good news for me. :tup: otherwise im going to get the next gen G-coupe for sure.


anyway, back to talking shelby's. :D

You can get a new one for $50k. I have a quote from BMW of Charlottesville for $49.8k

Bottom of the line, no trimmings, no options, etc, etc shut up yer poopoo

BMW maintenance is not nearly as bad as most people think it is. Just don't go to the dealer for non-warranty work.

They fixed the 335i engine issues as well.

With the comp package, but I don't wan the other stuff.

The gtr costs twice as much, and is automatic.

I agree. They don't build them like they used to (which is a good thing). Paying mid 60k for a "used" car still sucks though... mentally speaking I mean. Imagine how many solid new cars you can get for 60k?!?!?!

this thread makes me want an M3. uh oh.

Yes it is. It is every bit as bad. German brands have their high tech proprietary tools, and any work not covered under warranty is ridiculously expensive, and if it's non-warranty work, you have to decide whether you're comfortable leaving the work up to a non-BMW mechanic. Some non-warranty repairs are too important to leave to some shlub.

Find me a new M3 with DCT and normal options for 50k and I'll buy it. We are talking similarly equipped cars here. An M3 with options is easily in the 70s.

I have friends who track their 335i and M3 without mayor problems. If they do have small problems, dealer takes care of it.

Same as above. They are doing a lot better with reliability now.

New? or is that a non-option dealer test drive beat up car.

It all depends on what the original value of the car, the idea of paying 60 or 50 or 70 sounds a lot better when you're getting what was, 15k miles ago - a 90k car.

Im not sad man, someones gonna be in the same position I am, buying something that they wouldnt otherwise be able to afford and getting a really nice, fun car to drive. I love my Stillen kit, still to this day, no issues.

Considering I've taken two 540i's to 230,000 miles each, I think I have a pretty good idea of what the long term maintenance costs. In va, autoscandia and curry have both taken really good care of me on maintenance costs... I think they were cheaper that the z will be.