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Red__Zed 06-27-2011 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by USNA94 (Post 1191026)
Wow, was your other car a time machine? How does one take a 2002 car back to 1970? Flux capacitor?

Quoted for epicness of the fail!

Red__Zed 06-27-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1190915)
That's not true at all. Just because you may not be able to control yourself when you are 18 doesn't mean there aren't others who can.

I have never had an accident, never had a speeding ticket, and am responsible in other aspects of my life which is why I got the Z when I was 19. Generalizations are not fair in some cases.

Word. I had an 800hp s2000 at 18.... No issues.

Synack 06-27-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by USNA94 (Post 1191026)
Wow, was your other car a time machine? How does one take a 2002 car back to 1970? Flux capacitor?

In your defense, RCK did say "2002 BMW", in that order. I thought the same thing until someone mentioned BMW 2002.

red6spd 06-27-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1191426)
In your defense, RCK did say "2002 BMW", in that order. I thought the same thing until someone mentioned BMW 2002.

I had a 5 series BMW back in 2003..... See its in the same order but sounds correct LOL.

TongMan 06-28-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1191426)
In your defense, RCK did say "2002 BMW", in that order. I thought the same thing until someone mentioned BMW 2002.

I agree. I didn't know what the heck a BMW 2002 is either. Next time say it appropriately.

dfarredondo 06-28-2011 01:34 AM

I got my first z when i was 16 i got five tickets within the first year of owning it, and i too was also a "responsible driver."

butdamnbrian 06-28-2011 01:49 AM

buying a z for teenager says more about the responsibility of the parent than it does the kid, no?

lucky kid!

TongMan 06-28-2011 02:16 AM

^^^ 100% agree!! "lucky SPOILED kid!"

Brazilbro 06-28-2011 02:46 AM

Oh god, not this too young or not debate again.:facepalm::shakes head:

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retiredmd 06-28-2011 08:01 AM

Advice
 
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Originally Posted by RCK (Post 1190446)
Thanks for all the advice guys. I do trust my son and will continue to do so.

You would do very well to send your son to a Driver's School.
As a parent, I purchased both my son and daughter new cars (325 IS) after they both completed their freshman years of college-each with a perfect 4.0 GPA. There were two caveats: Both must attend and complete a Driver's School and neither could receive a moving violation whilst in college. Failure to comply with either would result in the car being taken away.
They completed both Novice and Intermediate training programs and neither received any tickets. They still have those cars today, now some 15 and 18 years after purchase.

Econ 06-28-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1190311)
getting lost in the age of the owner is the price. What trim is it? 26.4 seems like it is not a very good deal unless the car has some packages...

yea 26.4 is not a good deal... i paid less than that for a NEW 7at touring.

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 1191051)
i am 31 and drive like a retard.

:bowrofl:

Synack 06-28-2011 09:02 AM

There's people of all ages that drive like retards.

I think this thread is damn near useless now, the OP had their mind made up BEFORE they started this thread and since an earlier page they haven't responded to anyone. I hope your son gets lucky and won't need the warranty. As for me, I have my good luck streaks and my bad luck streaks, and the bad luck streaks tend to include whatever car I'm driving whether I'm a good driver or not, and I am a good defensive driver.

christian370z 06-28-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dfarredondo (Post 1193358)
I got my first z when i was 16 i got five tickets within the first year of owning it, and i too was also a "responsible driver."

Cool, and I have none. Your point?

RCK 06-28-2011 11:27 AM

Some excellent advice here, especially the driving school which I've already considered. The moving violation stricture is already in place. And no modding. Spoiled kid? Maybe, but that's a relative judgement. Many of my son's friends drive far more expensive cars, which we could afford. One drives a Bentley, many Range Rovers, BMWs, etc.

My son is a compulsive saver, putting his birthday money aside since he was 7. He even invested part of it in the stock market in Spring '09, good timing. Of course I choose the stocks with him, but it's money he has saved. He wanted to contribute to the Z purchase with that money, but not a good time to sell right now.

nogoodname 06-28-2011 11:33 AM

why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

6MT 06-28-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 1193865)
why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

:iagree:

kenchan 06-28-2011 11:54 AM

this thread is like watching a fly buzz around the house...

it's all over the place and one intension to smack the living shiit out of it. :D

Synack 06-28-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RCK (Post 1193855)
Some excellent advice here, especially the driving school which I've already considered. The moving violation stricture is already in place. And no modding. Spoiled kid? Maybe, but that's a relative judgement. Many of my son's friends drive far more expensive cars, which we could afford. One drives a Bentley, many Range Rovers, BMWs, etc.

My son is a compulsive saver, putting his birthday money aside since he was 7. He even invested part of it in the stock market in Spring '09, good timing. Of course I choose the stocks with him, but it's money he has saved. He wanted to contribute to the Z purchase with that money, but not a good time to sell right now.

Yeah I just recently moved out of a neighborhood where all of the kids were driving BMW's, Lexus, a few Corvettes, etc, etc. And every single one of those kids could not drive. If you can AFFORD all of those more expensive cars then why NOT go for the ~$1500 extended warranty. This conversation should be for someone who is on edge with money and can't decide whether they would be a good enough driver and careful enough with their car to get by without the warranty. All signs point to BUY THE WARRANTY in your situation. I hate to be blunt but if you have the money do it, because it'll save you or him more money in the end. Just like the old saying, "You have to spend money to save money".

Usually extended warranties on just about everything else is just free money to the seller. Most of the time, the thing you buy won't break, or it'll be a super easy and cheap fix and/or replacement. In this Auto case, just imagine how many things can add up to or surpass $1500 when things break. Especially on a brand new 370Z which retails towards $40k. Parts aren't always cheap. Just some fuel for your thoughts.

I wouldn't buy a $1500 warranty on a Nissan Versa, Sentra, or even Altima if that tells you anything. The more premium cars deserve it, like Maxima, 370Z, G37, GTR, etc.

kenchan 06-28-2011 03:34 PM

^^ thanks for reinforcing my previous post's thoughts. :D hahaha ;) jk

aditya369 06-30-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hambone1 (Post 1191055)
Dear lord. You are on an automotive forum and don't know what a BMW 2002 is? Please kindly :gtfo2:

Well said ! If u did not say this i was going to !

NYBladeZ 06-30-2011 12:02 PM

Thumbs up to a cool Dad, way to many haters on here but its like that on all forums. Personally I would hate the no modding rule since the Z is a tuners car.

Brutal 370Z 06-30-2011 12:29 PM

cool dad for sure. my dad bought me a Z when i was 16 too.

MacCool 06-30-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 1193865)
why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

christian370z 06-30-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1197759)
It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

FromG2Z 06-30-2011 04:03 PM

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

RDGR12 06-30-2011 04:46 PM

@RCK - If you can afford to buy the warranty, I don't see any reason for not getting one. Especially when modifying the Z is not in the picture.

+1 on enrolling him to driving school.

I'm sure you're raised your son well and have adopted your teachings for him to deserve such a nice gift!

MacCool 06-30-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1197780)
Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

So...it's not fair for insurance companies to charge higher premiums for unmarried male drivers age 16-23? Their actuarial data is wrong?

dpirch531 06-30-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1197811)
Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.


Couldn't of said it any better ^. Agree 100%

Rooster89 06-30-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1197811)
Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

:tup:

PapoZalsa 06-30-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1189953)
Superb driver?....outstanding peripheral vision?... Wow. I really hope your just trolling, because there is no such thing as a responsible 18 year old when you put him behind the wheel of sports car. It's one thing when he's driving with his Mom holding his hand, another when he's alone or with a girl/guy.

:iagree:

Superb driver?.... I'm in my 40s, driven in the Autobahn, own over 50 cars and don't consider myself a superb driver.

:bowrofl:

outstanding peripheral vision?...Are u an Optometry?

:roflpuke2:

Sorry but those are strong statements!

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1197780)
Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

Check the stats real carefull....you will know when you have teen drivers in your house and your insurance goes off the roof. ;)

whoady4shoady 07-03-2011 04:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKp5a...rec_grec_index

TongMan 07-03-2011 09:22 PM

I totally agree with FromG2Z. Working hard for something is so much rewarding than someone handing over a 40 grand car to a teen. Parents in modern days love to spoil their kids.

Parents nowadays forget to re-enforce the belief that one should be hard working and earn what they have.

PapoZalsa 07-03-2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 1202423)
I totally agree with FromG2Z. Working hard for something is so much rewarding than someone handing over a 40 grand car to a teen. Parents in modern days love to spoil their kids.

Parents nowadays forget to re-enforce the belief that one should be hard working and earn what they have.

:iagree: :iagree:

There are born with a Silver Spoon up thier a$$ and will never appreciate a car because they never have to sacrifice themself for what they want.

butdamnbrian 07-03-2011 10:09 PM

clueless dad shouldnt be shocked at the negative responses he gets on the forum, which is populated by hardworking dedicated enthusiasts who work hard for their z's and live for the hobby. he comes on here posting about how he just bought his teenage kid the car we all worked our asses off for, and defends it by saying his kid is responsible. how obnoxious is that?

chuckd05 07-03-2011 11:34 PM

If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

Brazilbro 07-03-2011 11:53 PM

:iagree:

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buddahson 07-03-2011 11:59 PM

I've not read all of this thread so sorry if this has already been said, but experience is a big factor in owning a sports car, especially an expensive one. I'm talking about the experience that can only be gained through years of driving. When you know the dumb bitch 50 yards down the road is going to pull out in front of you. Or the guy talking on his cell next to you is going to try and merge into your lane like your not even there. Over time you can learn to anticipate these types of behaviors, but its something a teenager simply can't do (yet). Add on to this their loud music, dumb friends and other teenagers trying to race them and its a recipe for disaster. This is of course not a rule and more of a general observance.

I can tell you that I am a responsible person and I was as a teenager as well. However there are still times where I push the car or my motorcycle to limits that I shouldn't on the street. Unfortunately, that's what gets my blood pumping and I can't always resist. I think a lot of people fall into this category and its experience that keeps them on their toes when bad judgement gets the better of them.

Flushnismo 07-04-2011 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 1202510)
If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

:iagree:

Chriz 07-04-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 1202510)
If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

Couldn't have said it better myself. Back in high school I had a fairly nice car myself as with many other kids at my school. (It was a fairly rich neighborhood). Obviously there were always idiots who would crash their cars due to stupidity, but my group of friends and I were what I consider very good drivers. No accidents, tickets ect. My father knew this and trusted me with a nice car and I turned out fine. I did my own maintenance on the car and washed it weekly. Even with a sports car at a young age, I saved my need for speed for the track, I wasn't some ******* teen driver, and I practiced safe driving habits. Sure I might not know the rewarding aspect of getting a car that i personally worked for yet since im in college, but I can say I feel very blessed to have understanding parents who trusted my driving. The statistics do not lie about the rate of accidents of young drivers but one cant assume that every teen driver is going to cause accidents. I don't know if its envy or not but yall should not bash on OP for his decisions, im sure he knows his son better than anyone else on this forum.

shumby 07-04-2011 01:48 AM

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