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I wanted a convertible, so no.

I'm too lazy to go back and quote this but GTM claim over 500whp on a base 370Z. If a 370Z can achieve that stock other than the supercharger than it can definitely run with a GTR, if not faster. Unless I missed something :/

I think the question that would make this a much more fair question would be:

If the GTR and Z produced identical power and torque AND cost the same..which would you buy?

I think that would drastically change the answers of most of yous out there that are all about the extra power. I would definitely go with the Z regardless, because I think it's incredibly sexy!:tup:

unless you're 18- or have a terribly worse driving record than me(which I doubt is possible), you're full of it.

I would take a GTR AND a 370z if they were the same price. I'd drive the GTR all winter long while rotating In the summer.

GTR's tranny Is not that boring. For those people that say they want to "drift" I'm assuming most of you only mean fishtailing here and there... the GTR will do that no problem.

GTR owners are you able to control the power split? I'm assuming you can, I am just not sure. Like 40/60 f/r or even more rwd oriented?

being pulled over 200+ times in the 13 years i've been driving.... not fun :tiphat:

Yes, you missed the elephant in the room. The Gt-R is not about horsepower and straightline speed. It's about handling and cornering. You have a very fast shifting double clutch gearbox, along with a highly sophisticated electronically controlled AWD system. That's why the GT-R can keep up with ferraris and lamborghinis and corvettes that have way more power and way less weight. A forced induction 370z can produce the same power as a GT-R but it still lacks the gearbox and AWD system that helps the GT-R go so fast on a track.

Maintenance costs are very high on the GT-R. But you have to keep in mind that this car is considered a supercar. All supercars have high maintenance costs. What are the maintenance costs on a 911 turbo, a ferrari 430, or a lambo gallardo for example? How would they compare to the GT-R?

If both cars are the same price I'd get the GT-R. Yeah its more boring to drive on the street, but I'm pretty sure its a blast to drive on a track.

Ummmmm.......:wtf2:

Yeah I was just quoted for just under $3000 for 6 months in Texas. My driving record can be explained by this: :shakes head:

I had to back off on some of the higher up premiums for options I was paying for on the Cobalt I had. In GA my Cobalt was $230 a month for damn good insurance and my driving record. In TX it bumped it up to $300, just because its TX. So when I switched to the 370Z AND I moved to Texas I was going to get double raped. So I had to back off on some stuff hardcore. Now I pay $340 a month in TX with the Z.

All things being equal, I think most of us would want the 370Z's looks and GT-R's performance. Unfortunately, most of us live in the real world. Anyway, half the fun of owning these cars is modifying. The GT-R has very little left for improvement without costing a small fortune. With the sticker price of the GT-R, you could have a Z that's pretty fast & unique. If money was no object, I'd still get a Z....heck I'd get two.

I wouldn't even be satisfied if the GTR was 20/80 F/R. I need at least 5/95 lol. Also, I prefer the traditional manual shifter and I can't stand BOATS of a car! Like MUSTANGS, YUCK!

there is no default power split like evo or sti... its is like 98%/2% until the AWD is needed then is sends the appropriate torque to the front wheels in real time then back to RWD

Is there anyway to control it so it, let's say, doesn't send said appropriate torque to the front wheels? So one can initiate minor street slide on a road.

no but it has a R mode VDC setting that will let the back end come out a little without interfering..


the only thing close to what your asking about is the 2012 has a feature that disengages the front differential to reduce front end binding in sharp turns or in the cold.... but it only works at like 6mph and under

An AWD Z would be fun. Still want a manual shifter though and agreed on the no boat (huge car) theory.

Coming from my original love of a boosted 240 is why I'd prefer the Z. Feels more like its YOU and the car. Instead of the GTR feeling like its the CAR and you, especially with all of the computer stuff going on. I'm still in the process of getting used to drive by wire. It already screwed me over once in the Z. But nothing serious.

First of all, I love my Z.

With that said, I couldn't help but notice many of you discount the GTR because it's an "automatic." I suggest you educate yourself, because you sound really freaking DUMB.

Moreover, GT-R is initial costs is not too far out, but it's the maintenance and repair costs that would concern most people. Few thousand dollars just the change the brakes. Over a thousands dollars to change the trans fluid. Anything goes wrong with the hardware is very very costly... etc.

Just lashing out at people and calling them "freaking dumb" without giving facts or examples to support your belief or discount theirs is immature, and speaks to your possible lack of intelligence and communication skills. :tiphat:

Everyone realizes it's a dual clutch transmission and not a slush box. It's just that alot of people prefer to row their own gears and press the clutch pedal. You would have realized this if you weren't so condescending.

I would get the GT-R without hesitation.

GTR's are relatively rare you don't see them on the road much less many people (non-enthusiasts)don't even know what they are when they do see them..personally I like the exclusivity and value they present over other super cars..if they were priced the same as a Z that would ALL go away I'm afraid..

Yep. Every once in a while I find myself looking up used GTR prices. I don't how I will stop myself from buying one when it's less than $40k.

There is a point when one must be blunt. If you call a GTR an automatic and discredit for that reason, you are in fact dumb. There is no term that would describe you best.

I careless what you think of my intelligence or lack of communication skills.

Apparently not.

Does anyone recall when GTR was looked down upon for it's "weak transmission"

3 posts in a row. Someones really trying to make a point.

What if there were 2 GTRs...
first would be you basic GTR body with a TT and a 6 speed
and , we will call it a Phase II which is what is the normal GTR .. I think Nissan could sell that ...

Prior to the R35s the Skylines and GTRs were different trim levels of the same. Nissan made a decidsion to separate the two into 2 deferent lines. I don't see anything less than the GTR you see now and special editions coming out.

Don't fight it man, just pick one up and enjoy the hell out of it when you do. :driving:

Plus, it practical, it has back seats so you can take the kids and wifey along for the ride too. :tup:

PS--If I were you, I'd opt for the used GTR over a new GT500 'stang.

Yes no doubt, but in all reality with the price of the GTR not a chance. I would never spend 90G's on a nissan product. Not that nissan is a bad car by any means its just not a super car in my opinion.

GTR any day. honestly i think the new 2012 GTR is the best bang for your buck on the whole auto market right now.

80k for a 0-60 2.9 seconds, 1/4 mile like 11 something at like 122MPH. plus it handles like a dream. geez hard to believe its only 80k. and now they have the black edition.

well close its more like 91K and 97k MSRP for the 12's...but in one sense yeah its hard to call it a bang for the buck deal since almost 100K is alot of money no matter what your comparing it too...but stacked up against the competition is does seem like a hell of a deal

i still thinks its a deal for 100k. its a bang for your buck for the wealthier people. people who buy Zr1, R8, porsche, even ferraris and lambos.

i now see why my statement was kind of confusing. but ya for wealthy people its the best bang for there buck.

maunal trans, AUDI R8 V10 and look as good as your ride is fast... I also would not give up my 370 for a GTR even if the price were the same.

Not being GT-R specific, but I would love to have an R33 or R34 GT-R. It's smaller, has a silky smooth i6 turbo, 6-speed, but is RHD. The R34 Z-Tune is my dream, but way out of my league (actually all GT-Rs are :():
Driving the Nissan Skyline GT-R Z-tune by Peter Lyon

I would probably get the R35 if I was involved in a situation where I'm unable to row my own gears... hope not.

fasr as i know, lots of wealthy people bought one just for "fun" but sold it off in a while, trading it in for a porsche or ferrari..

main reason - doesnt feel like driving a supercar.. even though specs are supercar-like...

I beg to differ. When I lived in Atlanta, I'd see more than 5 a week. 5 being a minimum off week. The GTR to 370 ratio is getting closer to 1:1. It's about 1:2 right now for me. That's why I've said some of the things I've said. It's not very rare at all. Like I see soooo many GTR's, Porsches, and Corvettes its not even funny. :/

ya its all in perspective.... whats really a bang for the buck is a well kept used GTR... for instance i sold mine with 14K miles on it for 60K and it was immaculate... for 60K nothing out there is touching you...