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stumpy 06-10-2011 03:35 PM

2012 Official LineUp Changes
 
Nissan and Infiniti - The 2012 Nissan Lineup: Charting the Changes

2012 Nissan 370Z Coupe/NISMO 370Z
For 2012, the Nissan 370Z Coupe remains one of the most vibrant and dynamic sports cars available in North America. The 370Z Coupe is again available in three models, 370Z Coupe and 370Z Coupe Touring and the NISMO 370Z, which features unique performance and design attributes. There are no major specification or equipment changes for the 2012 model year.

Key features of the 2012 Nissan 370Z Coupe and NISMO 370Z include:
• The 370Z and 370Z Touring are each available with a standard 332-horsepower 3.7-liter DOHC V6 engine with Variable Valve Event and Lift Control (VVEL) and choice of 6-speed manual transmission with an available SynchroRev Match® synchronized downshift rev matching system or a 7-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters
• The limited production NISMO 370Z features 350 horsepower and 276 lb-ft of torque, exclusive H-configured exhaust system design, a close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission with SynchroRev Match®, and NISMO-tuned suspension
• The NISMO 370Z features unique 5-spoke 19-inch RAYS forged aluminum-alloy wheels mounted with Yokohama ADVAN Sport Y-rated high-performance tires, Nissan Sport Brakes and a Viscous Limited-Slip Differential (VLSD)
• The NISMO 370Z also includes functional and fully integrated aerodynamic body pieces, including an extended front nose, fully integrated chin spoiler, side sills, a unique rear and functional rear spoiler
• A dramatic interior utilizing an innovative driver-centric three-layer design which groups items by how a driver sees information, operates the controls and is held in place – so drivers feel completely connected and engaged whenever and wherever they drive
• Available technology features include a Nissan Hard Drive Navigation System with 7-inch VGA touch-sensitive display, USB connectivity and iPod? connection, XM NavTraffic® with Real-Time Traffic Information and XM NavWeather™ (XM® subscription required, sold separately), Bluetooth® Streaming Audio, Nissan Intelligent Key® and a Bluetooth® Hands-free Phone System

The 2012 370Z Coupe and NISMO 370Z go on sale in fall 2011.

2012 Nissan 370Z Roadster
For 2012, the Nissan 370Z Roadster once again offers an unmatched balance of dynamic performance, sculptured styling, innovative technology and exceptional value – along with the exhilaration of pure open-air motoring. There are no major specification or equipment changes for the 2012 model year. The previous 370Z base model with 6-speed manual transmission is no longer offered.

Key features of the 2012 Nissan 370Z Roadster include:
• Standard 332-horsepower 3.7-liter DOHC V6 engine with Variable Valve Event and Lift Control (VVEL)
• Choice of 7-speed automatic transmission or close-ratio 6-speed manual with available SynchroRev Match® (370Z Roadster Touring only)
• Refined 4-wheel independent suspension, 4-wheel vented disc brakes with available Nissan Sport Brakes
• Lightweight yet rigid body structure
• Unique Z? Roadster equipment includes available high back net seats, added structural body reinforcements (compared to the 370Z Coupe) and the stylish convertible top
• The 370Z Roadster’s standard power automatic latching top was designed with an emphasis on providing a sleek silhouette with the top up or down, offering easy single-action open-close operation, and providing an enjoyable top-down experience with reduced wind turbulence and all-climate driver/passenger comfort
• Standard Nissan Intelligent Key® with Push Button Ignition
• Available heating and cooling ventilated net seats, Bluetooth? Hands-free Phone System, satellite radio and advanced Nissan Navigation System

The 2012 370Z Roadster is offered in two models: 370Z Roadster and 370Z Touring Roadster. It goes on sale in fall 2011.

azn370z 06-10-2011 03:56 PM

No HP bump, no new headlights and bumper?

Econ 06-10-2011 03:57 PM

interesting, however none of these seem like changes?

am i missing something

"There are no major specification or equipment changes for the 2012 model year."

XwChriswX 06-10-2011 03:58 PM

Copy, no changes.

Econ 06-10-2011 03:58 PM

Good News to me then. my car still looks like it can be a '12

b1adesofcha0s 06-10-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1162799)
Good News to me then. my car still looks like it can be a '12

I didn't realize the yellow wheels were an option for the '12 :bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 06-10-2011 04:22 PM

I think due to the earthquake that happened in Japan, any changes that may have been coming for the 2012 370Z will be delayed till 2013 or even as far as 2014.

11Thumper 06-10-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1162860)
I think due to the earthquake that happened in Japan, any changes that may have been coming for the 2012 370Z will be delayed till 2013 or even as far as 2014.

That's ok, we still have an awesome car. Those folks need to rebuild their lives.

ihatepotholes 06-10-2011 05:00 PM

i am a happy camper

dad 06-10-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1162799)
Good News to me then. my car still looks like it can be a '12

That can work both ways! The 2012 looks like a 2009! That will not help sales increase!

red6spd 06-10-2011 05:58 PM

Good to hear!!! We still go the most up to date Z.

FL 4Motion 06-10-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1162860)
I think due to the earthquake that happened in Japan, any changes that may have been coming for the 2012 370Z will be delayed till 2013 or even as far as 2014.

That's what I figured too. I bet we'll see some noticable changes for '13.

murphman 06-10-2011 06:27 PM

if they end up pushing the chages to 2013 or even 2014 shouldnt they just forget the changes and just focus more on the next gen Z fo 2015? (if it were to release that year)

SPOHN 06-10-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1162798)
Copy, no changes.

:icon17:

Can't believe at least not a front clip change.

b1adesofcha0s 06-10-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1162975)
That's ok, we still have an awesome car. Those folks need to rebuild their lives.

Oh yeah, definitely. Their lives are definitely more important than a slight refresh of a car.

mikeSS 06-10-2011 09:10 PM

i would think you would see chances with the 2013 model.

happytheman 06-10-2011 10:32 PM

Hmmm...no sound deadening? Interesting.

2ndChance 06-10-2011 10:32 PM

I was hoping for a GT-R style DRL lights on the bumper and fix for the throttle lag and fuel starvation some experience

Isamu 06-10-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ndChance (Post 1163361)
I was hoping for a GT-R style DRL lights on the bumper and fix for the throttle lag and fuel starvation some experience

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1163130)
:icon17:

Can't believe at least not a front clip change.

this... and you would hope atleast some styling changes... maybe an aero package update

kree 06-11-2011 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happytheman (Post 1163360)
Hmmm...no sound deadening? Interesting.

I thought I read in some thread on here that some article or interview done by someone in Europe had said the 11's already had more sound deadening than the 09s and 10s. I don't have a link to that or the time to search for it though... I could be mis-remembering...

Mt Tam I am 06-11-2011 11:25 AM

The only change: A price hike (creep).

UNKNOWN_370 06-11-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1163807)
The only change: A price hike (creep).

Yeap... Nissan is great for no updates and quarterly price hikes of $200 every 3 months. Then the new model year jumps up at about $400. So the base car has gone up 2 grand in 3 years and the only feature to show for it are heated mirrors... WhoooHooo. Furthermore the Z is not selling. Its soon to be out-powered and definately out-torqued by the genesis coupe, yet prices go up and features are nill. I love the Z so other cars don't come to play for me but, that's some very sh1tty business on Nissans part. The enthusiasts already own the car. In order for this car to survive it needs new buyers. In order to get new buyers it needs a price competitive package. Luckily the Z is in a class by itself. Its the only reason they can barely break 10k in sales annually. But we need at vleast 15k in sales annually for this car to even be considered for a next generation model.
I know they are going thru serious sh1t in japan. But they need to stimulate there economy so they must stay resilliant by remaining competitive.

dad 06-11-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1163832)
Yeap... Nissan is great for no updates and quarterly price hikes of $200 every 3 months. Then the new model year jumps up at about $400. So the base car has gone up 2 grand in 3 years and the only feature to show for it are heated mirrors... WhoooHooo. Furthermore the Z is not selling. Its soon to be out-powered and definately out-torqued by the genesis coupe, yet prices go up and features are nill. I love the Z so other cars don't come to play for me but, that's some very sh1tty business on Nissans part. The enthusiasts already own the car. In order for this car to survive it needs new buyers. In order to get new buyers it needs a price competitive package. Luckily the Z is in a class by itself. Its the only reason they can barely break 10k in sales annually. But we need at vleast 15k in sales annually for this car to even be considered for a next generation model.
I know they are going thru serious sh1t in japan. But they need to stimulate there economy so they must stay resilliant by remaining competitive.

"BINGO"! We have a winner!

Isamu 06-11-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1163832)
Yeap... Nissan is great for no updates and quarterly price hikes of $200 every 3 months. Then the new model year jumps up at about $400. So the base car has gone up 2 grand in 3 years and the only feature to show for it are heated mirrors... WhoooHooo. Furthermore the Z is not selling. Its soon to be out-powered and definately out-torqued by the genesis coupe, yet prices go up and features are nill. I love the Z so other cars don't come to play for me but, that's some very sh1tty business on Nissans part. The enthusiasts already own the car. In order for this car to survive it needs new buyers. In order to get new buyers it needs a price competitive package. Luckily the Z is in a class by itself. Its the only reason they can barely break 10k in sales annually. But we need at vleast 15k in sales annually for this car to even be considered for a next generation model.
I know they are going thru serious sh1t in japan. But they need to stimulate there economy so they must stay resilliant by remaining competitive.

I agree, and you sir have been repped

b1adesofcha0s 06-11-2011 02:07 PM

What Nissan really needs to do to up the sales of the Z is to improve it's performance and make it more competitive with the other cars available, like the Mustang 5.0. Enthusiasts who love the Z most likely already have one. To attract other consumers, they need to show that they can compete with other cars that people cross shop with the Z. To the average consumer, the Z is slower, more expensive, and less practical than the Mustang, so why buy one?

11Thumper 06-11-2011 02:47 PM

I don't think a new bumper, slightly revised interior or a couple color changes will do much for the 370Z at this point. It's a great car already but as others have said, the competition is catching up. I'm not sure there's an 'average' consumer for the 370Z but it definately attracts a particular following. I'm unique because I never really liked any of the past Z cars so I never bought one, however when the 370Z came out it changed everything. :tup:

The economy is rough, supply from Japan is limited and dealers are taking advantage of the situation (at least dealers I've been to...not just Nissan). I do agree you get a LOT for your hard earned $ with the 370Z however you can't overlook the used car market. These days $35k will buy you a LOT of performance car on the used market.

People also seem to be holding onto that 5-7 year old (still mostly shiny) car they purchased back when the economy was hot. Now, this probably has minimal effect on most 370Z customers who are looking for updated performance, but overall I think this would lengthen the product life cycle for car designs as the ROI takes longer to achieve. The 370Z product development was during a time when the economy was fairly stable and the housing market was much more viable. I'm certain the downfall of the housing market and financial industry has blown more than one business plan out of the water for car makers.

Even a very minor change to something like a bumper requires a lot of effort for a large manufacturer. You have product design, prototypes, testing, tooling, manufacturing line changes (either internal or external with suppliers, possible NRE charge with suppliers), component discontinuation, possible scrap inventory and revised marketing to implement.

b1adesofcha0s 06-11-2011 03:03 PM

Direct injection + more lightness for the Z = winning!

roplusbee 06-11-2011 03:11 PM

:iagree:

11Thumper 06-11-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1164040)
Direct injection + more lightness for the Z = winning!

Well, now that would be sweet! :tiphat:

But folks seem to be complaining about cabin noise so wouldn't it add weight to make it quieter? ;)

I would love to see a twin turbo 370Z (mid 400hp) with direct injection...

cptspeed 06-11-2011 04:15 PM

They need to fix what is broken before making changes. Our car is a value but the very basic stuff like cooling, oil consumption, and sh--ty paint need to be fixed first.

PapoZalsa 06-11-2011 04:44 PM

What a waste of time, resources and money! Not a single change...

At least the 350Z had some changes throughout the years. :shakes head:

dad 06-11-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 1164208)
What a waste of time, resources and money! Not a single change...

At least the 350Z had some changes throughout the years. :shakes head:

Those are the 3 things Nissan hasn't done!

UNKNOWN_370 06-11-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1163923)
I agree, and you sir have been repped

Thanks.

Isamu 06-11-2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1163937)
What Nissan really needs to do to up the sales of the Z is to improve it's performance and make it more competitive with the other cars available, like the Mustang 5.0. Enthusiasts who love the Z most likely already have one. To attract other consumers, they need to show that they can compete with other cars that people cross shop with the Z. To the average consumer, the Z is slower, more expensive, and less practical than the Mustang, so why buy one?

way to repost what was already said just above you, only in different words
:bowrofl:

Isamu 06-11-2011 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 1164185)
They need to fix what is broken before making changes. Our car is a value but the very basic stuff like cooling, oil consumption, and sh--ty paint need to be fixed first.

ding ding ding!

they should also mail everyone who bought a nismo a damn oil cooler!!

themann1984 06-11-2011 06:48 PM

Is it possible that they are not making improvements because they plan on discontinuing the car in a few years? Why invest resources in a car that isn't selling the 30,000 units that they planned on selling. Why invest resources in a car that they plan to discontinuing? Like someone mentioned before. Tweaks are expensive to introduce.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

Streetlife 06-11-2011 06:50 PM

I just read the post at Nissan's website. It seems the only change is in the Supension, it say's refined 4 wheel independent suspension. I guess that's what they mean by no "major" changes to the 2012 model.

ImportConvert 06-12-2011 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1163937)
What Nissan really needs to do to up the sales of the Z is to improve it's performance and make it more competitive with the other cars available, like the Mustang 5.0. Enthusiasts who love the Z most likely already have one. To attract other consumers, they need to show that they can compete with other cars that people cross shop with the Z. To the average consumer, the Z is slower, more expensive, and less practical than the Mustang, so why buy one?

When the 370 is over 400 bhp and if its not some hybrid crap, I might pick one up. You nailed it.

Isamu 06-12-2011 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1164552)
When the 370 is over 400 bhp and if its not some hybrid crap, I might pick one up. You nailed it.

maybe its time for you to :gtfo2: then?



just sayin

MacCool 06-12-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kree (Post 1163634)
I thought I read in some thread on here that some article or interview done by someone in Europe had said the 11's already had more sound deadening than the 09s and 10s. I don't have a link to that or the time to search for it though... I could be mis-remembering...

No, I read that too.


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