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Mag350Z 05-03-2011 10:48 AM

2011 370Z vs 2011 EVO GSR in Road and Track
 
Sports Car Comparison - Sports Car Performance Comparison Test at RoadandTrack.com

Havent posted here in a while as traded in 2006 350Z for a 2011 Grand Sport Corvette but saw this article in this months Road and Track

YellowStar 05-03-2011 10:50 AM

Sounds interesting, going over it now.

" Mitsubishi’s torque-vectoring Active Yaw Control" are we still dealing with cars here? Sounds like something out of back to future and flux capacitors.

whoady4shoady 05-03-2011 10:52 AM

The first thing that comes to mind after reading the subtitle is where is the miata?

m4a1mustang 05-03-2011 10:54 AM

Fun little article. I liked how they put the XFR up against the Evora. :icon17:

red6spd 05-03-2011 10:56 AM

“A true sports car ought to be able to lap for a long time without falling into this overheating-related mode.” I have to agree, Nissan really makes themselfs look bad with this. I'm also surprised the EVO was faster around the track, hmmm. But the Mitsu akes themselfs look bad with that interior. Why should the inside look like a base Lancer if I'm paying almost 40K ouch

m4a1mustang 05-03-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1087117)
“A true sports car ought to be able to lap for a long time without falling into this overheating-related mode.” I have to agree, Nissan really makes themselfs look bad with this. I'm also surprised the EVO was faster around the track, hmmm. But the Mitsu akes themselfs look bad with that interior. Why should the inside look like a base Lancer if I'm paying almost 40K ouch

Performance cars with a pricepoint around that of the Z and EVO are always going to have compromises.

kenchan 05-03-2011 11:10 AM

"hear more of the Z’s distinctive “Chewbacca” exhaust note"

hey they called our car 'baka'. :mad:

ImportConvert 05-03-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowStar (Post 1087095)
Sounds interesting, going over it now.

" Mitsubishi’s torque-vectoring Active Yaw Control" are we still dealing with cars here? Sounds like something out of back to future and flux capacitors.

Nothing new. GM has had yaw control of some form or another for over a decade.

If I were to buy one, I would buy the 370Z. I'm a RWD fan.

Z_ealot 05-03-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1087146)
"hear more of the Z’s distinctive “Chewbacca” exhaust note"

hey they called our car 'baka'. :mad:

Baka janai kenchan, don't worry it's just road&track :D

kenchan 05-03-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1087173)
Baka janai kenchan, don't worry it's just road&track :D

:icon18:

ProfessorDave 05-03-2011 11:43 AM

You boys stop with your fancy Japanese and get back to dissing R&T!

kenchan 05-03-2011 11:46 AM

professordave- i didnt read the whole article, but actually their review of the Z's not too bad imo.... :D

Z_ealot 05-03-2011 11:53 AM

lol, i thought that was dissing R&T? kenchan, your intrepratations?

kenchan 05-03-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1087249)
lol, i thought that was dissing R&T? kenchan, your intrepratations?

haha, there's really nothing new that i haven't heard or read about other than that our exhaust sounds like a chewbacca??!! :D

onzedge 05-03-2011 12:05 PM

I read the article last night and this morning while driving in I was listening for the Chewbacca sound. Maybe it won't make that sound with the Berk CBE.

Red__Zed 05-03-2011 12:08 PM

interesting read

ProfessorDave 05-03-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087271)
I read the article last night and this morning while driving in I was listening for the Chewbacca sound. Maybe it won't make that sound with the Berk CBE.

:icon18::icon17:

Red__Zed 05-03-2011 03:29 PM

Chewbacca exhaust? Can you even hear the stock exhaust?

CrownR426 05-03-2011 04:25 PM

Chewbacca?!
My Z scares the V8's!
lol...
I honestly think they should've compared the 370Z with a CaymenS.
I took one down last week and man did I feel awesome!

Footloose301 05-03-2011 04:27 PM

In the end the Z only lost because a "sports car" shouldn't be over heating after a few laps. I don't care how many people insist that you don't need an oil cooler; a "sports car" at $40k should be perfectly capable of track use. It's a shame that it comes handicapped from the factory.

Jace 05-03-2011 04:49 PM

Mitsubishi Lancer GSR Evo X vs Nissan 370Z - FastestLaps.com

If we're talking performance, it's not even close. The Evo X isn't faster, period. They obviously can't drive. The Evo weighs more, has less power, and doesn't handle as well. You only buy the Evo X if you like the style and/or you have kids. You don't buy the Evo if you plan on beating a Z.

mikeSS 05-03-2011 05:07 PM

i would never buy a evo over a Z. just dont like the looks of those things. i like STI better if anything.

cfweber 05-03-2011 07:29 PM

the eye of the beholder
 
I just can't get into this 4 door thing

The look of the 370Z is pretty compelling

for the money it is a steal

Brazilbro 05-03-2011 10:15 PM

Its crazy that the Evora did so well with such lil power. I had a dealer trying to push one on me a few weeks ago for 20k under sticker. When they make a TT kit for it I might consider

onzedge 05-03-2011 10:22 PM

Not much compares to the handling capability of Lotus cars in general. I am waiting to see if they beef up the HP and might consider it then (as another to add to the collection 'cause I cannot get rid of the Z's).

Red__Zed 05-03-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1087907)
In the end the Z only lost because a "sports car" shouldn't be over heating after a few laps. I don't care how many people insist that you don't need an oil cooler; a "sports car" at $40k should be perfectly capable of track use. It's a shame that it comes handicapped from the factory.

It is a bit of a catch 22. Most cars see the same oil temps the Z does, they just don't have limp mode to protect them.

cossie1600 05-03-2011 10:45 PM

MOst cars don't have a functional oil temp gauge...

Shamu 05-03-2011 11:01 PM

Less than a second on track? Thats the difference between crappy Bridgestones Potenza and rocking Yoko Advan ADO8

jaedub 05-04-2011 03:23 AM

Cant just make a judgement between the cars by just 1 article.

houkouonchi 05-04-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 1087948)
Mitsubishi Lancer GSR Evo X vs Nissan 370Z - FastestLaps.com

If we're talking performance, it's not even close. The Evo X isn't faster, period. They obviously can't drive. The Evo weighs more, has less power, and doesn't handle as well. You only buy the Evo X if you like the style and/or you have kids. You don't buy the Evo if you plan on beating a Z.

Yup, you are likely right. I know on top gear australia episode (a vid I found on youtube) also said the 370z beat the Evo X's lap time. The video is actually a 350/370 comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKGUhuMHTPg

ImportConvert 05-04-2011 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 1087903)
Chewbacca?!
My Z scares the V8's!
lol...
I honestly think they should've compared the 370Z with a CaymenS.
I took one down last week and man did I feel awesome!

Is your car stock? I was always curious how the Cayman S would go vs. a Z, stock/stock in the real world.

I looked at both the Z and the Cayman, and I know the quality of the materials in the Porsche as supposedly better (Real suede, better cows died, maybe the clear coat was more expensive, I don't know, but it looked and felt the same). I just know that I would be very sad if all I got was the badge on the front and the uber-high service bills.

ImportConvert 05-04-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 1088640)
Its crazy that the Evora did so well with such lil power. I had a dealer trying to push one on me a few weeks ago for 20k under sticker. When they make a TT kit for it I might consider

Around VIR the Evora does similar to a mustang GT. It's nothing to write home about imo. Not for the price.

ProfessorDave 05-04-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 1088985)
Yup, you are likely right. I know on top gear australia episode (a vid I found on youtube) also said the 370z beat the Evo X's lap time. The video is actually a 350/370 comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKGUhuMHTPg

Cool review! :tup:

Red__Zed 05-04-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1088994)
Around VIR the Evora does similar to a mustang GT. It's nothing to write home about imo. Not for the price.

To be fair, VIR full course is very much a power track.

cossie1600 05-04-2011 11:34 AM

vir grand not so much

kenchan 05-04-2011 11:46 AM

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../CHEWBACCA.jpg

onzedge 05-04-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1089637)

He does the soundtrack for my exhaust.

HoneyBadger 05-04-2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1088987)

I looked at both the Z and the Cayman, and I know the quality of the materials in the Porsche as supposedly better (Real suede, better cows died, maybe the clear coat was more expensive, I don't know, but it looked and felt the same).

:icon18:

UNKNOWN_370 05-04-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 1089671)
:icon18:

The best thing about a cayman is its 171mph top speed. The worst thing is its $200 oil changes
Sure the porsche engine is quieter and overall storage space is double, but broken in two. The Z is a more attractive package between the two price points. The porsche steering wheel and console is bland. The Z looks more sporty inside.

What I do like about the cayman is that its lower to the ground and shorter in height. But I can modify my car to be lower and do 171 for a whole lot cheaper than a porsche, yet maintenence will be lower as well as insurance.

If I buy a porsche it would be one of the turbo 911 variants. And I can't afford that. :( ill stick with my Z and when its paid off. I will buy a used GT-R. :)

Mandingo 05-04-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087271)
I read the article last night and this morning while driving in I was listening for the Chewbacca sound. Maybe it won't make that sound with the Berk CBE.

To me, the Berk does still make that sound (especially from outside the car). But it sounds great... like a really really pissed off Chewey.


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