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Jack370Z 04-29-2011 08:51 PM

Jim Wolfe Dual PopCharger
 
Has anyone installed the JWT PopCharger? Give me your impression please.

SPOHN 04-29-2011 08:53 PM

It's really best to go with a cold air intake and call it the day.

Jack370Z 04-29-2011 09:50 PM

Thx Spohn...what about the K&N Typhoon from the Z Store?

spearfish25 04-29-2011 11:01 PM

Waste-o-money. Stillen Gen III or just stay stock.

SPOHN 04-30-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1081219)
Waste-o-money. Stillen Gen III or just stay stock.

I defiantly agree.

spearfish25 04-30-2011 08:40 AM

The only reason to get an aftermarket intake other than the Gen III is that you care about how your engine bay looks more than how your car performs. Given that after having done exhaust mods the Gen III only adds about 10hp above 7k rpm, it's just simply not worth the trouble to me.

6MT 04-30-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1081439)
The only reason to get an aftermarket intake other than the Gen III is that you care about how your engine bay looks more than how your car performs. Given that after having done exhaust mods the Gen III only adds about 10hp above 7k rpm, it's just simply not worth the trouble to me.

Pure Bovine Scatology. If you don't think that a short ram intake improves air flow, you're dreaming. Yes, the long tube intakes give slightly better performance, but to say anything but a long tube intake is just window dressing is laughable.

Your example above would say that the stock air boxes and air tubes have the same performance as any short ram intake (?). Again pure Bovine Scatology.

:shakes head:

EDIT: btw, Jim Wolfe stuff is top notch!

onzedge 04-30-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1081443)
Pure Bovine Scatology. If you don't think that a short ram intake improves air flow, you're dreaming. Yes, the long tube intakes give slightly better performance, but to say anything but a long tube intake is just window dressing is laughable.

Your example above would say that the stock air boxes and air tubes have the same performance as any short ram intake (?). Again pure Bovine Scatology.

:shakes head:

6MT is correct.

PapoZalsa 04-30-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1081219)
Waste-o-money. Stillen Gen III or just stay stock.

Way too late for me, but the Stillen Gen III are coming on the near future. ;)

Lemers 04-30-2011 10:35 AM

Don't you have to cut something on the Z to install the gen III

smokejr 04-30-2011 10:59 AM

You have to cut some to get the tubes thru to the front, not much, I have done this but
wonder if it is possible to re-install the stock intake without having to fab something??
I liked the throttle response after doing the mod, was much smoother.

PapoZalsa 04-30-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by smokejr (Post 1081550)
You have to cut some to get the tubes thru to the front, not much, I have done this but
wonder if it is possible to re-install the stock intake without having to fab something??
I liked the throttle response after doing the mod, was much smoother.

You also need to use some rubber tubing to protect against shaving and possible damage of the CAI and A/C lines. ;)

It should be no problem installing the stock one back.

Lemers 04-30-2011 11:23 AM

They look great installed but it's hard to go back to stock

tjlazer 04-30-2011 12:31 PM

I got 6-10 whp gains with my Typhoon. Dyno'd it do a search.

Jack370Z 06-03-2011 08:59 AM

Talked with the guys at Jim Wolfe Technology and decided to go with their PopCharger for the 370Z. Glad I did...easy to install (did have a missing part problem but got it taken care of immediately...their customer reps were great) it looks and sounds great! BTW it is easy to go back to stock since I didn't notice the missing part until I had the stock boxes out...had to put them back and get the missing part and reinstall. The biggest plus I've noticed is the throttle response, especially at low RPM's, smooth as silk. No hesitation now. One big reason I went with JWT is it is approved in every state (some of the others aren't).

kenchan 06-03-2011 11:57 AM

the R2C i had before did pretty damn well for me. the responsiveness was much better than stock setup and the IAT's were pretty much stock. the heatsheilds they use is far cleaner than the JWT and fits better too.

i originally had the JWT and it sounded good. fitment wasn't perfect and IAT's were higher. i like the fact that the venturies have inlets in the front and conal sides. :)

im using HPS tubes and KN drop-ins (i already had these from the past) more for noise control. responsiveness is about as good as the R2C.

imho if you're going CAI go R2C. :tup:

onzedge 06-03-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1149832)
the R2C i had before did pretty damn well for me. the responsiveness was much better than stock setup and the IAT's were pretty much stock. the heatsheilds they use is far cleaner than the JWT and fits better too.

i originally had the JWT and it sounded good. fitment wasn't perfect and IAT's were higher. i like the fact that the venturies have inlets in the front and conal sides. :)

im using HPS tubes and KN drop-ins (i already had these from the past) more for noise control. responsiveness is about as good as the R2C.

imho if you're going CAI go R2C. :tup:

Mr, Kenchan. What is R2C?

Jack370Z 06-03-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1149896)
Mr, Kenchan. What is R2C?

Zedge...the best I could find on the R2C is, well...I'm not sure. Here is the link I found...

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Couldn't determine a price or much about them to be honest. The JWT definitely has a hood seal to keep the radiator wash away as much as possible. Maybe Kenchen will come thru with more data?

onzedge 06-03-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 1150145)
Zedge...the best I could find on the R2C is, well...I'm not sure. Here is the link I found...

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Couldn't determine a price or much about them to be honest. The JWT definitely has a hood seal to keep the radiator wash away as much as possible. Maybe Kenchen will come thru with more data?

Thanks, man.

kenchan 06-03-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1149896)
Mr, Kenchan. What is R2C?

they make intakes for our Z's. :p

they're actually a dry filter manufacturer. they make these in the USA. :tup:

R2C HomePage

onzedge 06-03-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1150462)
they make intakes for our Z's. :p

they're actually a dry filter manufacturer. they make these in the USA. :tup:

R2C HomePage

Thanks, Mr. Kenchan. I can't tell from the website if these are complete intakes -- all the way to the throtlle bodies.

kenchan 06-03-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1150480)
Thanks, Mr. Kenchan. I can't tell from the website if these are complete intakes -- all the way to the throtlle bodies.

here you go~ :)

Your one stop online shop for the best prices on the net: AMSOIL,R2C Intakes,Invidia, BC Racing, HKS, Tein, Greddy, MBRP Exhaust,Hawk,Project MU, StopTech,Mishimoto,AEM,Injen:Nissan, Infiniti, Chevrolet, BMW,Honda, Hyundai, Mitsubishi,Scion,Subaru

kenchan 06-03-2011 03:58 PM

onzedge- btw, the intake will not remove the throttle lag. just letting you know one would need a reflash for that. :)

but it does improve things considerably... considerably more than HPS + K&N drop-ins for sure..atleast on my car.

onzedge 06-03-2011 04:00 PM

Thank you Mr. Kenchan. Have a great weekend.

kenchan 06-03-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1150575)
Thank you Mr. Kenchan. Have a great weekend.

thank you sir. have a nice weekend too. :tup:

onzedge 06-03-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1150590)
thank you sir. have a nice weekend too. :tup:

:tup::driving:

Jack370Z 06-03-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1150568)
onzedge- btw, the intake will not remove the throttle lag. just letting you know one would need a reflash for that. :)

but it does improve things considerably... considerably more than HPS + K&N drop-ins for sure..atleast on my car.

kenchan...the throttle lag is no longer evident on my Z and the only thing I've changed is the OEM intakes. Maybe it is the venturi type inlets of the JWT. I suppose it could be my imagination but I have been paying particular attention to that...it is so improved I'm impressed. The venturi inlets speed up the air and it is so undisturbed it is cleaner getting to the throttle body.

kenchan 06-03-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 1150651)
kenchan...the throttle lag is no longer evident on my Z and the only thing I've changed is the OEM intakes. Maybe it is the venturi type inlets of the JWT. I suppose it could be my imagination but I have been paying particular attention to that...it is so improved I'm impressed. The venturi inlets speed up the air and it is so undisturbed it is cleaner getting to the throttle body.

Sounds good. I believe it cause I experienced the same on both JWT and R2C. When I put the stock box throttle response wnt down considerably. I still had some lag though even with the cai. My G has no lag so that is wat I am benchmarking. :)

FromG2Z 06-03-2011 10:07 PM

Ken.... why did you remove your R2C's if you were happy with it? If I ever go CAI, the R2C option might be it for me. I am not interested in removing the bumper and cutting through my framework for an install. How does the R2C compare to the Stillen G3's in your opinion? Same gains? more? less?

kenchan 06-03-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1151073)
Ken.... why did you remove your R2C's if you were happy with it? If I ever go CAI, the R2C option might be it for me. I am not interested in removing the bumper and cutting through my framework for an install. How does the R2C compare to the Stillen G3's in your opinion? Same gains? more? less?

I must be old cause I wanted to keep it kinda quiet and so went back to the stock box. :D
That was the only reason. :) I too did not like the idea of removing the bumper although its not a huge deal.

I've no experience with the long tubes on my car so I can't comment.

Mr.Squeeze 06-03-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokejr (Post 1081550)
You have to cut some to get the tubes thru to the front, not much, I have done this but
wonder if it is possible to re-install the stock intake without having to fab something??
I liked the throttle response after doing the mod, was much smoother.


You can re-install the stock intake without having to make something up.

edub370 06-05-2011 09:30 AM

what about Inejn's CAI? my car came with them on and they seem great (on the butt dyno). plus they are a true cold air system. simliar so stillens without the last curve no? plus they sound amazing!

if these things aren't good then someone needs to school me on why

shadoquad 06-05-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1152619)
what about Inejn's CAI? my car came with them on and they seem great (on the butt dyno). plus they are a true cold air system. simliar so stillens without the last curve no? plus they sound amazing!

Wondering this myself.

AAM also offers its own custom long tube CAI. I don't know what makes Stillen magically better than both.

I've heard the Injens may suffer hydrolock, but then again I don't go driving my Z in a foot of standing water.

edub370 06-05-2011 09:41 AM

idk how they would any more than a stillen...?

shadoquad 06-05-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1152633)
idk how they would any more than a stillen...?

The positioning of the air filters. The Stillen one sits behind the bumper sort of, whereas the Injens are close to the ground.

Either way, I've not had a problem, and neither did the original owner of the Injens who I bought them from.

KillerBee370 06-05-2011 10:45 AM

I tested the JWT pop chargers when they developed them. I lost power on the dyno because of heat soak. Went with Gen III's instead. Pop chargers are somewhere gathering dust now. Better airflow than stock boxes 6MT? Sure. But sucking in all the hot air under the hood = better off with stock boxes and a K&N drop in or CAI from Stillen.

butdamnbrian 06-05-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1152663)
I tested the JWT pop chargers when they developed them. I lost power on the dyno because of heat soak. Went with Gen III's instead. Pop chargers are somewhere gathering dust now. Better airflow than stock boxes 6MT? Sure. But sucking in all the hot air under the hood = better off with stock boxes and a K&N drop in or CAI from Stillen.

:werd:

RCZ 06-05-2011 10:27 PM

I installed these way back when and they made no power. No short ram intake will make any power on this car. Just get Stillen G3's.

FromG2Z 06-05-2011 10:34 PM

What about the R2C intakes? I thought those made as much power as the G3's? I still haven't seen any dyno charts on this.... after all this time, and several other threads. Still no dyno charts. So what's the verdict?

christian370z 06-06-2011 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1152619)
what about Inejn's CAI? my car came with them on and they seem great (on the butt dyno). plus they are a true cold air system. simliar so stillens without the last curve no? plus they sound amazing!

if these things aren't good then someone needs to school me on why

I know at least 4 people in Socal that have had significant problems with Injen intakes taking up too much moisture even from the regular water spray off the road and causing problems ranging from poor drivability and stalling to the car not starting due to the water messing with the MAF sensors.

I have yet to hear of a single issue with the Stillen G3 intakes, which are still the king of peak power gains in terms of intakes.


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