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posades 05-20-2016 10:19 AM

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At my work parking deck, which never has enough spaces for everyone...he literally parks like this every morning. :shakes head:

BuckeyeZ 05-20-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by posades (Post 3483533)
At my work parking deck, which never has enough spaces for everyone...he literally parks like this every morning. :shakes head:

My gues is that he can't open his door with the column there......so has to scoot over.

In most cases, I have never understood 'backers', but that is a subject for another thread.

Ghostvette 05-20-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by posades (Post 3483533)
At my work parking deck, which never has enough spaces for everyone...he literally parks like this every morning. :shakes head:

The douchebaggery is strong in this one....:rolleyes:

Jsolo 05-20-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 3483605)
In most cases, I have never understood 'backers', but that is a subject for another thread.

It makes leaving easier and safer.

posades 05-20-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 3483605)
My gues is that he can't open his door with the column there......so has to scoot over.

In most cases, I have never understood 'backers', but that is a subject for another thread.

Yet there are plenty of spots without a column in the way, and he chooses that one everytime....see below about backers. :shakes head:

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3483615)
The douchebaggery is strong in this one....:rolleyes:

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3483624)
It makes leaving easier and safer.

It also makes entering less safe; I almost ran into someone backing in because they suddenly stopped and starting backing in without any blinker or warning. I can understand pulling through two spots to be facing forward, but don't hold up traffic on a parking deck ramp just because you feel the need to make a quick getaway in the afternoon.

TN.Z 05-20-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by posades (Post 3483728)
Yet there are plenty of spots without a column in the way, and he chooses that one everytime....see below about backers. :shakes head:





:iagree:







It also makes entering less safe; I almost ran into someone backing in because they suddenly stopped and starting backing in without any blinker or warning. I can understand pulling through two spots to be facing forward, but don't hold up traffic on a parking deck ramp just because you feel the need to make a quick getaway in the afternoon.



IMO this is an argument against failing to use signals and following too closely. No argument against backing into spaces. They should have used their blinker, and you shouldn't have been so close that you would almost hit them.

I almost always back in due to the fact that in our cars it's nothing but prayers backing out of parking spots. I can not see anything until I am halfway out of the spot. But I also usually park out of the way so I am not impeding traffic either.

Firebase99 05-20-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeZ (Post 3483605)
In most cases, I have never understood 'backers', but that is a subject for another thread.

90% of accident takes place in parking lots. Taking the time to back in nitially reduces the rush to back out when leaving, hitting something. Its also a military thing.

ZHighlander 05-20-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by posades (Post 3483728)
It also makes entering less safe; I almost ran into someone backing in because they suddenly stopped and starting backing in without any blinker or warning. I can understand pulling through two spots to be facing forward, but don't hold up traffic on a parking deck ramp just because you feel the need to make a quick getaway in the afternoon.

The fault of the driver making an abrupt stop without warning and blinking, and during rush hour periods, or someone following too closely, does not make the concept of "backing up" less safe. It just means some drivers are making bad decisions. I certainly wouldn't back into a space slowly if there's a row of cars waiting on me.

Backing into a space also isn't exclusive to making a "quick getaway". It also has a lot to do with the safety of pulling out of the parking space when our vehicles have such horrible rear blindspots, as others have mentioned.

Jsolo 05-20-2016 03:59 PM

I don't usually park anywhere near the masses so holding up traffic isn't an issue. People should not be flying through parking lots either.

I understand your point if you got a line of cars behind you. I guess leave for work earlier so you can park at your convenience without being rushed.

About the only time I may not pull through is if the parking spot is on an inclineand it makes more sense to drive in rather than back in. Gravity takes over when leaving (you auto guys probably never think of these things :) ).

posades 05-20-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3483770)
IMO this is an argument against failing to use signals and following too closely. No argument against backing into spaces. They should have used their blinker, and you shouldn't have been so close that you would almost hit them.

I almost always back in due to the fact that in our cars it's nothing but prayers backing out of parking spots. I can not see anything until I am halfway out of the spot. But I also usually park out of the way so I am not impeding traffic either.

I mean couldn't this same argument be turned the other way as well? Backing out normally shouldn't be considered dangerous if people are following the posted speed limit of 5 mph and yield for someone that obviously has their backup lights on. The roads would be a much safer place if everyone followed the rules, but let's be honest no one ever does 100% of the time.

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Originally Posted by ZHighlander (Post 3483777)
The fault of the driver making an abrupt stop without warning and blinking, and during rush hour periods, or someone following too closely, does not make the concept of "backing up" less safe. It just means some drivers are making bad decisions. I certainly wouldn't back into a space slowly if there's a row of cars waiting on me.

Backing into a space also isn't exclusive to making a "quick getaway". It also has a lot to do with the safety of pulling out of the parking space when our vehicles have such horrible rear blindspots, as others have mentioned.

How does it make it MORE safe though? A driver can hit something backing into a spot as well as when leaving forward facing just as much depending on what's beside you, other drivers at the time, etc. I agree that a 370Z has horrible blind spots backing up, but I still see people in convertibles and cars with better viewing angles back in all the time. With the advent of backup cameras, I just don't see how backing into a spot is THAT much safer, at which point it comes down to convenience for the driver and inconvenience for everyone else having to wait. If someone's out of the way or has no one near, I have absolutely no problem with someone backing in.

TN.Z 05-20-2016 04:19 PM

It's safer for my wallet, if someone rear-ends me while I am backing in well that's on them. In the other case, if I am backing out of a parking space and someone is flying down the road, and I back out into them, that's on me. It will be my fault. Backing in keeps me less liable for potential crashes.

I always signal before backing in and if someone is right up behind me I just move on until I can safely back into a different spot. If I can pull through then awesome best case scenario, but I hate backing out in the Z it is just blind.

As for your other point I definitely used to have other cars with rear visibility and I didn't always back into spaces then.

posades 05-20-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3483818)
It's safer for my wallet, if someone rear-ends me while I am backing in well that's on them. In the other case, if I am backing out of a parking space and someone is flying down the road, and I back out into them, that's on me. It will be my fault. Backing in keeps me less liable for potential crashes.

I always signal before backing in and if someone is right up behind me I just move on until I can safely back into a different spot. If I can pull through then awesome best case scenario, but I hate backing out in the Z it is just blind.

As for your other point I definitely used to have other cars with rear visibility and I didn't always back into spaces then.

Fair enough, I think I'm just jealous because I can't back in or parallel park to save my life. :(

cooltoy 05-20-2016 05:35 PM

I don't know about the US, but up here a lot of companies make it mandatory for company vehicles to be backed in. It is safer to leave.

ZHighlander 05-20-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by posades (Post 3483800)
How does it make it MORE safe though? A driver can hit something backing into a spot as well as when leaving forward facing just as much depending on what's beside you, other drivers at the time, etc. I agree that a 370Z has horrible blind spots backing up, but I still see people in convertibles and cars with better viewing angles back in all the time. With the advent of backup cameras, I just don't see how backing into a spot is THAT much safer, at which point it comes down to convenience for the driver and inconvenience for everyone else having to wait. If someone's out of the way or has no one near, I have absolutely no problem with someone backing in.

So here's another perspective. When backing into a space, usually all you have to deal with are inanimate objects. Stationary vehicles, the curb, a pole, etc. Once you've established objects that aren't going to move, and you take care in lining up your car to back in, and having accounted for your blind spots, then the only thing you really have to worry about is your ability to back in.

Now consider backing out of the space where you have no control over if someone decides to fly right by you, trying to get past before you pull out. With blind spots being equal in both cases, you're better off backing into a space, than backing out of it.

Other reasons ppl back in also is when their car is pretty low and they don't want to risk scraping their front bumper on the curb. In either case, there are various reasons to back in, other than for the convenience of speeding out (which no one should be doing regardless of the way they park)

Wheels3309 05-20-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZHighlander (Post 3483861)
So here's another perspective. When backing into a space, usually all you have to deal with are inanimate objects. Stationary vehicles, the curb, a pole, etc. Once you've established objects that aren't going to move, and you take care in lining up your car to back in, and having accounted for your blind spots, then the only thing you really have to worry about is your ability to back in.

Now consider backing out of the space where you have no control over if someone decides to fly right by you, trying to get past before you pull out. With blind spots being equal in both cases, you're better off backing into a space, than backing out of it.

Other reasons ppl back in also is when their car is pretty low and they don't want to risk scraping their front bumper on the curb. In either case, there are various reasons to back in, other than for the convenience of speeding out (which no one should be doing regardless of the way they park)

:iagree: Well said


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