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Nissanboy 04-20-2011 05:00 PM

Can't burnout
 
So I went to the track the other day and I couldnt do a burnout to save my life. Mind giving a noob some tips?

It's a MT

Econ 04-20-2011 05:04 PM

gas pedal is the one on the right ;)

Baer383 04-20-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1064873)
gas pedal is the one on the right ;)

:iagree::bowrofl:

red6spd 04-20-2011 05:09 PM

You cant sit there and smoke up the rear tires without pulling the ABS fuse or brake light fuse????? Something like that, I'm sure someone will post up what you need to do. If your just trying to spin the tires and get a clean tire for a run coming off the clutch quick at a high rpm should get the job done, make sure TCS is off.

TBOX 04-20-2011 05:10 PM

Really? When I was on stock tires I couldn't Not burnout...

flashburn 04-20-2011 05:13 PM

And you turned VDC off?

XwChriswX 04-20-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1064889)
You cant sit there and smoke up the rear tires without pulling the ABS fuse or brake light fuse????? Something like that, I'm sure someone will post up what you need to do. If your just trying to spin the tires and get a clean tire for a run coming off the clutch quick at a high rpm should get the job done, make sure TCS is off.

Dont you mean VDC?? :confused:

Econ 04-20-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1064902)
Dont you mean VDC?? :confused:

that was my thought then i thought he made his own acronym of Tire Control System

Nissanboy 04-20-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1064889)
You cant sit there and smoke up the rear tires without pulling the ABS fuse or brake light fuse????? Something like that, I'm sure someone will post up what you need to do. If your just trying to spin the tires and get a clean tire for a run coming off the clutch quick at a high rpm should get the job done, make sure TCS is off.

I figured cause my procedure would be

rev to around 6k with clutch fully depressed to avoid burning the clutch while in first gear--> dump the clutch without letting go of gas--> lightly hold the brakes

car would die on me everytime

HKYStormFront 04-20-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1064873)
gas pedal is the one on the right ;)

QFT's^^

EazyD 04-20-2011 05:27 PM

Can we at least burnout while moving? What should we rev up to for that and do you let it hit the limiter

98intrigue 04-20-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissanboy (Post 1064913)
I figured cause my procedure would be

rev to around 6k with clutch fully depressed to avoid burning the clutch while in first gear--> dump the clutch without letting go of gas--> lightly hold the brakes

car would die on me everytime

You can't do a standing burnout... You can do as exactly as you described, just don't put your foot on the brake at the same time.

IF you want to do a standing burnout, you must remove the Stop Lamp fuse down by your left foot. This will unable your taillights from lighting up though.

kenchan 04-20-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1064907)
that was my thought then i thought he made his own acronym of Tire Control System

:bowrofl:

Nissanboy 04-20-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1064962)
IF you want to do a standing burnout, you must remove the Stop Lamp fuse down by your left foot. This will unable your taillights from lighting up though.

Alright thanks for the help, + rep:tup:

HKYStormFront 04-20-2011 06:02 PM

yea i believe that if you touch the brakes the throttle is cut down immediately to idle air flow. that's probably your main problem here. line lock to the front brakes would probably be the only way to do a "proper burnout"

98intrigue 04-20-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1065093)
yea i believe that if you touch the brakes the throttle is cut down immediately to idle air flow. that's probably your main problem here. line lock to the front brakes would probably be the only way to do a "proper burnout"

Line locks are the best way to go.... but removing the Stop Lamp fuse is much easier.

See...I know how to do a burnout :stirthepot:
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cx74jLLJjNA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HKYStormFront 04-20-2011 07:01 PM

i can practically smell that video lol

WorkinMan 04-20-2011 07:29 PM

Cool video!

98intrigue 04-20-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WorkinMan (Post 1065266)
Cool video!

Thanks! There will be some of the Z to come :driving:

KillerBee370 04-20-2011 09:46 PM

What's a line lock?

esfourteen 04-20-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1065417)
What's a line lock?

typically a solenoid that controls the hydraulic brake lines allowing you to lockup only the front brakes independently of the rears, makes it easy to do a good burnout

KillerBee370 04-20-2011 10:19 PM

Copy that.

cfweber 04-20-2011 11:11 PM

try this
 
blip the throttle

release clutch and mash the pedal on the right

Mt Tam I am 04-20-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cfweber (Post 1065522)
blip the throttle

release clutch and mash the pedal on the right

Sounds good to me.

NewYorkJon34 04-20-2011 11:36 PM

I was trying to do a burnout before my new tires came and everytime I barely touched the brakes the power would die down. I was able to do one by not really touching the brakes. I figured it was just me doing something incorrectly, so I gave up but id still like to learn how to correctly do a standing burnout in the Z.

Ill try not even using the brakes to see if the outcome turns out better.

HKYStormFront 04-21-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 1065428)
typically a solenoid that controls the hydraulic brake lines allowing you to lockup only the front brakes independently of the rears, makes it easy to do a good burnout

yup this^ only practical application is for doing a burnout in a water box.

i know this is pretty much a topic for another debate thread but.......... i've read multiple times from multiple different sources that doing a "burnout" on street tires is pointless. best thing to do is either avoid the water box all together so your tires don't get wet, or just do a quick spin (as opposed to a car enveloping smoke screen) to clean the tires off.

ok... debate!:stirthepot:

red6spd 04-21-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1064907)
that was my thought then i thought he made his own acronym of Tire Control System


Traction Control system, its a thing guys, come on now. I confused it with my Altima, it had a TCS button.

Econ 04-21-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1065580)
Traction Control system, its a thing guys, come on now. I confused it with my Altima, it had a TCS button.

ahhhh i knew i was close....

BeachZTT 04-21-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1065270)
Thanks! There will be some of the Z to come :driving:

Nice launch and great run!

three70z 04-21-2011 10:01 AM

turn off vdc.... push in clutch....... rev to 3 thousand rpm's or higher if you want...... then rip the clutch if your moving try reving the engine higher but like "nissanboy" its nearly impossible to do a standing burnout in a 370z without removing the Stop Lamp fuse

DJ-of-E 04-21-2011 10:12 AM

Haha i'm gonna find a way to jerry rig a switch to d/c the stop lamp fuse.

98intrigue 04-21-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1065576)
yup this^ only practical application is for doing a burnout in a water box.

i know this is pretty much a topic for another debate thread but.......... i've read multiple times from multiple different sources that doing a "burnout" on street tires is pointless. best thing to do is either avoid the water box all together so your tires don't get wet, or just do a quick spin (as opposed to a car enveloping smoke screen) to clean the tires off.

ok... debate!:stirthepot:

Yes, avoid the water box on street tires! The water gets in the grooves of street tires and will only hurt your launch. With street tires, there is no point to do a big smokey burnout...a little spin to get any debris off the tires and you're good to go.

With drag radials/slicks, the water box is useful. It's lubrication to get the tires spinning for a purposeful big smokey burnout. These tires respond to higher temps, resulting in a better launch.

NewYorkJon34 04-21-2011 03:50 PM

Tried burnout without using the brakes, worked everytime. VDC off, Blip throttle to about 3k, ease off clutch, mash accerator pedal. Easy mode :happydance:

KillerBee370 04-21-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1066643)
Tried burnout without using the brakes, worked everytime. VDC off, Blip throttle to about 3k, ease off clutch, mash accerator pedal. Easy mode :happydance:

Yeah that's pretty easy. Unfortunately the car doesn't sit still for a long smokey one but whatever. How many sets of $300 a pop tires do you wanna burn through anyway in this economy right?

NewYorkJon34 04-21-2011 05:11 PM

^ya no smokey burnouts which I learned can not be done unless that fuse is taken out. But at least I know the brakes are not needed. Better "burnouts" to come after I get the S/C

wdkwang 05-25-2011 01:45 AM

so my mechanic friend didn't believe me our 370's cant do a standing burnout without taking out the brake light fuse. he's like lemme show you how it's done. he tries twice and of course the brake kills the power. so he actually believes me and pops out the fuse and tries it after. smoke show ftw.

i wish there was a easy fix for this. cause there are times i want to have some fun on a straightaway but my tires normally arent warm enough so launching even at 1500rpm makes the car judder like a fwd. 'spinnin ain't winnin' unless u gettin slideways wo0 wo0

but is there a reason for why nissan decided to design the z so it can't do standing burnouts?

ChrisSlicks 05-25-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 1131342)
so my mechanic friend didn't believe me our 370's cant do a standing burnout without taking out the brake light fuse. he's like lemme show you how it's done. he tries twice and of course the brake kills the power. so he actually believes me and pops out the fuse and tries it after. smoke show ftw.

i wish there was a easy fix for this. cause there are times i want to have some fun on a straightaway but my tires normally arent warm enough so launching even at 1500rpm makes the car judder like a fwd. 'spinnin ain't winnin' unless u gettin slideways wo0 wo0

but is there a reason for why nissan decided to design the z so it can't do standing burnouts?

Their intention wasn't to kill burn-outs, it was to prevent run away cars. If the throttle pedal was giving a bad reading (a la Camry) then it would be easy to stop the unwanted acceleration by hitting the brake. You are going to see more and more cars with this feature.

Personally I don't see it as a problem as most of the times you would want to do a standing burnout would be in a safe place where you could pull the fuse. If you wanted to go crazy you could wire a switch inline with the fuse.

Dzel 05-25-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 1065237)
Line locks are the best way to go.... but removing the Stop Lamp fuse is much easier.

See...I know how to do a burnout :stirthepot:
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cx74jLLJjNA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Noice!!!

KillerBee370 05-25-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1131438)
Their intention wasn't to kill burn-outs, it was to prevent run away cars. If the throttle pedal was giving a bad reading (a la Camry) then it would be easy to stop the unwanted acceleration by hitting the brake. You are going to see more and more cars with this feature.

Personally I don't see it as a problem as most of the times you would want to do a standing burnout would be in a safe place where you could pull the fuse. If you wanted to go crazy you could wire a switch inline with the fuse.

Correct. A simple relay with a toggle switch should do the trick!

tranceformer 05-25-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1131438)
If you wanted to go crazy you could wire a switch inline with the fuse.

It's not completely crazy.... ;)


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