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Abk370z 04-05-2011 01:46 AM

Question 7sd auto vs 6sd man and about nismo
 
I'm looking to buy and only have drove the auto and love the paddle shift. Just wondering if there is a diff in the way the car drives. I know the paddles are the up and coming thing on sports cars. Just wanted to get some opinions on it. Another question is how do you guys like your nismos do they drive stiffer than the regular z. Not sure which one I want only know I want a white one or maybe a 40th love that color too. Thanks guys. If you know anyone who is lookin for a h2 send them my way.

370zproject 04-05-2011 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abk370z (Post 1033426)
I'm looking to buy and only have drove the auto and love the paddle shift. Just wondering if there is a diff in the way the car drives. I know the paddles are the up and coming thing on sports cars. Just wanted to get some opinions on it. Another question is how do you guys like your nismos do they drive stiffer than the regular z. Not sure which one I want only know I want a white one or maybe a 40th love that color too. Thanks guys. If you know anyone who is lookin for a h2 send them my way.

ibtl


i prefer the A/t i do alot of city driveing so much more relaxing and can be fun at the touch of the paddles

Kcuba370z 04-05-2011 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1033432)
ibtl


i prefer the A/t i do alot of city driveing so much more relaxing and can be fun at the touch of the paddles

:iagree:

to each his own but i just prefer the 7AT

Jordo! 04-05-2011 01:58 AM

If it's even a question -- 7AT.

Couldn't be happier with mine :tup:

XwChriswX 04-05-2011 01:59 AM

I have the 7AT myself, but barely ever use the paddles honestly lol I know that's a big feature of the 7AT but I wish the paddles would rotate with the steering wheel cause it kinda defeats the ease of use when I still have to move my hands mid turn to shift up/down. Just my :twocents: I'm just glad I have the ease of shifting ability like a manual without the clutch ftw.

jaedub 04-05-2011 02:00 AM

wow hauling h2 in this fuel economy is just brutal. Anway......I've driven 6spd for my entire life and it never gets old. I love my Z stick, though I never tried 7spd.....I imagine it to be bit more comforable but less exciting. You get the extra spice out of the 6 spd imo. 7spd is like .1 second faster than 6spd in 0-60.

Ive tried nismo but there isnt much of a difference between nismo and 370 sport package. Nismo also has stiffer suspension so be ready for louder road noise and bumpier ride.

But I just love 6 spd. It doesnt get boring, having the privilage of controlling the clutch, and way more exciting than 7spd in everyway. The only paddle shift I'd get is if the car had a F1 transmission where the gear changes in less then a faction of a second.

Good luck with the decision :tup:

Vegitto-kun 04-05-2011 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1033436)
I have the 7AT myself, but barely ever use the paddles honestly lol I know that's a big feature of the 7AT but I wish the paddles would rotate with the steering wheel cause it kinda defeats the ease of use when I still have to move my hands mid turn to shift up/down. Just my :twocents: I'm just glad I have the ease of shifting ability like a manual without the clutch ftw.

I hate flappy pedals that move with the steering wheel. I drove a jaguar and it has pedals that moves with the steering wheel. I always had to remember "they are oooon that side now"

with the Z I always know where they are.

get 7AT its quicker than the 6MT :stirthepot:

cossie1600 04-05-2011 07:08 AM

All the AT owners are going to say ATs are better, all the MT owners are going to say MT is the way to go. You can't win.

BLM 04-05-2011 07:21 AM

I prefer the manual. I would only get a paddle gearbox if it was a dual clutch design, such as the GT-R

Chan Chee Hoe 04-05-2011 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLM (Post 1033501)
I prefer the manual. I would only get a paddle gearbox if it was a dual clutch design, such as the GT-R

Actually our auto already quite 'close' to a D.S.G.[very little slip is noticed].

spearfish25 04-05-2011 07:32 AM

I take one look at the shift boot and lever on the 7AT and feel like I'm looking at a base Ford Focus. 6MT until the cows come home for me.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...cd_gallery.jpg

cossie1600 04-05-2011 07:42 AM

Like the PDK from Porsche, I still think the AT are overrated

happytheman 04-05-2011 08:40 AM

My wife was urging me to consider the AT and I told her there's no way I was going to go auto...I just LOVE driving a manual tranny. The only manual transmission I'll own (as already stated) would be the double clutching GTR! :)

Oh yeah...IBTL!:rofl2:

Highway 04-05-2011 08:47 AM

My last 3 cars weren't even available in an auto. I didn't know they made sports cars without the mandatory manual trans.

red6spd 04-05-2011 08:48 AM

A big old torque converter does not belong in a full bred sports car. Sorry AT guys LOL.

UNKNOWN_370 04-05-2011 08:54 AM

From someone with a 7AT but generally prefers a manual. I say this much. Out of all the slushboxes out there, the 7AT is the best engineered of all. And the AT is .02 seconds faster not .01 like someone on here mentioned. That's nearly 2 car lengths so its pretty significant in my opinion, though opinions are subjective. The best times on the at are 13.1 on the quarter with 4.6 to 60mph. The manual is 13.3 and 4.8 to 60mph. The 7th gear helps in those times and with a simple throttle response mod alone ,I'm sure you can add an extra .01-.02 seconds to that time.

As far as the paddles not turning, I would suggest going from the paddle to the autostick in mid turn. Seems to work for me. On the manual, people find it more exciting to let the clutch in and out,also heal and toeing makes it fun cuz u can make the car launch pretty hard while in motion.
All that can also be done from the AT. Its just getting the same amount of fun from the AT takes a lot more understanding of the cars reaction to your throttle input and rpm timing. Way more precision is involved in the AT to achieve the same result in a manual. A manual can be more forgiving giving you a broader rpm range to achieve a maneuver. The 6M will have perfect gear ratios, while in the 7AT, 7th gear is hogging up rev time and making some gear ratios too tight.
It will be easier to hold a gear at a precise rpm in the manual, but the manual will NOT be forgiving for improper clutch depression. That's not an issue in the AT "The extra gear in the AT, spools things up veeery quickly so making the most precise of shifts isn't as easy as a person that only drives a manual will percieve it". Sometimes 7 speeds can be too much but other times it can be extremely exciting to have 2 overdrive modes. Kinda a love hate thing goes on in manual-mode. The hate usually happens in city driving. The manual transmission will be smoother feeling. But you can just leave it in auto and hit the pedal smoothly. Issue ended in the AT. Lol.
The paddles and autostick can be just as engaging but the problem is it becomes the most exciting at over 100mph, which can get you into trouble. The manual is a little more fun throughout the entire speed range cuz you always are putting that left leg to work... for many puttin use of your left leg makes driving fun. If that's you? Go with the manual. Just remember if you have traffic in your neighborhood. A manual may not be as rewarding as it seems
If driving is focus number one and you want a lil bit of a challenge on gear perfect selection. I recommend the 7at in manual mode. In the end both will be fun if you are open minded about either. But you gotta decide which is best for you.

Things to consider before you choose.

1. Traffic in your area

2. Are the highways open with multi lanes or the 2 lane type.

3. Are roads smooth? If they aren't you may be slowing down and speeding up a lot which can make having a manual annoying as hell.

4.Will you track often? If you do? The AT needs modification, while the manual is ready to go from stock. And any mods you do perform on tthe manual for track use will be substantially cheaper compared to pricey and complicated mods for autos.

5. A modded manual will be more reliable than a modded AT.

6. A modded AT on a track will be much faster if modded properly. (With limitations. See #7)

7. A modded AT has horsepower limitations while a manual can handle almost all the power you mod into your car. So if you plan on making over 600bhp??? Your manual of course will end up being faster than your auto.
Unless you plan on spending over $25,000 in racing mods and creating over 600bhp? The AT should still be sufficient.

The choice is yours...:driving:

esfourteen 04-05-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1033508)
I take one look at the shift boot and lever on the 7AT and feel like I'm looking at a base Ford Focus. 6MT until the cows come home for me.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...cd_gallery.jpg

i almost considered finally buying an auto until I saw that :stirthepot:

elmz 04-05-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1033508)
I take one look at the shift boot and lever on the 7AT and feel like I'm looking at a base Ford Focus. 6MT until the cows come home for me.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...cd_gallery.jpg

I feel the same way when I see the AT shifter...its horrid. They should have made it smaller and sleeker IMO.

shadoquad 04-05-2011 10:15 AM

Well you see, the 7AT is like a Miata Door in terms of its performance advantages, whereas the 6MT is like the 2004.5 F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S model in terms of driver involvement.

And the Nismo?

http://lecomptonkansas.com/bald_eagle_icon.png

Red__Zed 04-05-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1033796)
Well you see, the 7AT is like a Miata Door in terms of its performance advantages, whereas the 6MT is like the 2004.5 F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S model in terms of driver involvement.

And the Nismo?

http://lecomptonkansas.com/bald_eagle_icon.png

Pretty much sums it up perfectly IMO.

toxik 04-05-2011 10:24 AM

OP, have you looked up the mustang 5.0?

UNKNOWN_370 04-05-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 1033704)
I feel the same way when I see the AT shifter...its horrid. They should have made it smaller and sleeker IMO.

I can agree there... I am actually considering removing the plate and adding the 6M shift boot then changing out the knob for the MOMO auto knob. Not that big of a deal to make look good. But they should have put more thought into the way it looks.

Also there would be more aftermarket solutions if people made a demand for it. Doesn't seem many people have wanted to make the at box look better.

Sibze 04-05-2011 10:33 AM

And there goes this thread













to Awesome town
:happydance:

XwChriswX 04-05-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1033838)
I can agree there... I am actually considering removing the plate and adding the 6M shift boot then changing out the knob for the MOMO auto knob. Not that big of a deal to make look good. But they should have put more thought into the way it looks.

Also there would be more aftermarket solutions if people made a demand for it. Doesn't seem many people have wanted to make the at box look better.

Guess they weren't expecting the enthusiasts to buy the 7AT?

toxik 04-05-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1033850)
And there goes this thread













to Awesome town
:happydance:

i hope awesome town isn't in Canada

shadoquad 04-05-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1033852)
Guess they weren't expecting the enthusiasts to buy the 7AT?

What? This car is an enthusiast car in every trim.

But there are inexpensive aftermarket methods of placing a proper leather boot there.

Red__Zed 04-05-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1033859)
What? This car isn't an enthusiast car in any trim.


But there are inexpensive aftermarket methods of placing a proper leather boot there.

I thought you like the Z? :rofl2:

KaienZ34 04-05-2011 10:38 AM

Please use the search/advanced search. Once again this has been discussed at great length. Now we're just....

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...dead_horse.jpg

Red__Zed 04-05-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik (Post 1033855)
i hope awesome town isn't in Canada

You can't have awesome in Canada.

shadoquad 04-05-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1033866)
I thought you like the Z? :rofl2:

I do. I bought mine with a proper manual tranny and leather boot cover.

I'm still replacing that with wine colored leather.

Sibze 04-05-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik (Post 1033855)
i hope awesome town isn't in Canada

Well it only makes sence that awsome town is in awesome county.

Libya

Red__Zed 04-05-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1033868)
Please use the search/advanced search. Once again this has been discussed at great length. Now we're just....

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...dead_horse.jpg

Please don't kill the fun. I for one, enjoy beating the carcass of a horse.:rofl2:

b1adesofcha0s 04-05-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik (Post 1033819)
OP, have you looked up the mustang 5.0?

I see you're filling the Steve role for this thread :rolleyes:

m4a1mustang 04-05-2011 10:40 AM

The Nissan literature says the 7at is for enthusiasts and the 6mt is for perfectionists.

The NISMO is for JD from Scrubs.

m4a1mustang 04-05-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1033876)
I see you're filling the Steve role for this thread :rolleyes:

I'm going to fill your hole.

Wait... wat? :bowrofl:

shadoquad 04-05-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1033880)
The NISMO is for JD from Scrubs.

The type that are pretty cool and quirky at first, but you're tired of them by season 3?

Sibze 04-05-2011 10:42 AM

6MT 5.0 Nismo

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MzV3RagUU_...lode-again.gif

Red__Zed 04-05-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1033880)
The Nissan literature says the 7at is for enthusiasts and the 6mt is for perfectionists.

The NISMO is for JD from Scrubs.

I heard that even the Nissan literature recommends the 5.0 for real enthusiasts, is that true?

kenchan 04-05-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abk370z (Post 1033426)
I'm looking to buy and only have drove the auto and love the paddle shift. Just wondering if there is a diff in the way the car drives. I know the paddles are the up and coming thing on sports cars. Just wanted to get some opinions on it. Another question is how do you guys like your nismos do they drive stiffer than the regular z. Not sure which one I want only know I want a white one or maybe a 40th love that color too. Thanks guys. If you know anyone who is lookin for a h2 send them my way.

its like this and that and that and this and so this and that and so forth.

get the AT if you cant drive MT.

m4a1mustang 04-05-2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1033884)
The type that are pretty cool and quirky at first, but you're tired of them by season 3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cvpN6NsNrs


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