They're pretty useful in allowing for comparison of times and dyno readings in different conditions.

I ran at Cecil County Dragway up in Rising Dun, MD. I would like to see my corrected times to be able to see how I actually did compared to the corrected mag times.

I can see their (corrections) usefulness in certain applications, particularly when it comes to dyno sheets, but when it comes to a race result or time, I think it should stand as it happened.
If a guy does a fast time in ideal conditions, he shouldn't have that discredited or have its validity challenged by a correction factor.

That's not what the corrections are for. Times are times. But if you want to compare to someone elses times, or compare to the times you read in magazines, you need to realize you are often comparing to a corrected time.

Nobody is going to take away from Shahid's 12 second run. It's a fast time and very impressive. With corrections, it is a lot more in line with the times that the mags are putting down though.

Hm. For some reason I thought you ran in Odenton. I don't have any weather data for Rising Sun. Anywhere nearby that I might be able to get data from?

If you can find it for Odenton, just use that. It's only like 50 mins away and weather was the same. Only difference is altitude. You can also try Elkton, MD and see if that gives you anything.

Corrections for Odenton are in post 80 :tup:

Just read your edit. Only a .02 second correction so its not really a significant difference I guess. I have the touring too, which adds weight of the heated seats. I believe the touring weighs more than the base + sport. I will go check and find out.

Yeah, the weight changes make things hard to compare. I think the lighter brakes take off a good bit of rotational mass though.

Couldn't find the specific weights for each package. Yeah you're right, and the 18" wheels help also.

I like my "Z" just the way it is. It has plenty of go and handling for the way I drive it. I also bought the "Z" because there aren't many around where I live. It is nice to have people checking my "Z" out because they don't know what kind of car it is. I am a newby to sports cars, so I am still leaning how to drive my "Z." I also get more comments on the color (positive of course) of my "Z" then anything else.

to me muscle cars are like pickup trucks. they're big and powerful, some are kinda luxy inside, and not for me. :D

Exactly. What you're saying is that it's a great time but it's really more like this other slower time with the correction factored in.
Then we have to account for weight discrepancies in the car and heck, don't forget the weight of the driver! What octane fuel was in the car? Tank full or empty? You could go on forever finding discrepancies that need adjustment to simulate absolute equality.
Seriously, I'm not trying to argue with you. I understand the desire to use correction factors as an "equalizer". It's just that at the end of the day, it provides room for someone to say "but".

Back on topic.
I think the article is written like a sales pitch press release rather than an honest review.
As far as cabin noise goes, I couldn't hear my tyres or pebbles in the wheel wells. Just a howling Fast Intentions cat-back as I ran up the mountain at WOT in 3rd gear before downshifting for a switchback. I don't think Dynamat would have helped.

If you don't see the issue with comparing corrected times to uncorrected times, there's not much point in having a conversation.

I don't, but... :roflpuke2:

A base sport manual is 3250lbs, the 7at is 3269lbs
A touring sport manual is 3315lbs.


I memoorized that from my 2009 nissan brochure. Icant remember the other trim weights. :)

That's great, but mine is one of the one's you didn't memorize :p

Touring 7AT without the sports package.

Mine must be special, a bone stock 370 base with sport MT with full fluids weight in at 3350 on the race scale.

My guess is the manufacturer publishes "dry" weights.

A full tank of gas will weigh about 114lbs.

curb weight is supposed to be full gas tank and full fluids with no passenger

My bad.
I was thinking about motorcycles... where they often publish a dry weight for the machine.

i think they all lie about it, they cant keep track of every single production change

Huge +1

This is the time for all those who were young kids in the 60's/early 70's who stood slack-jawed as their older neighbors melted tires through the neighborhood.

He who laughs last, laughs best, but you better get in on the punch-line before the joke goes stale.

If you want a last shot at what you missed growing up, take it, or forever hold your peace.

No, the manufacturer is supposed to publish curb weight, which as posted before, is the weight of the car, it's fluids (including a full tank of gas), etc.

My Z06 was weighed by the LA DOTD and with 12 gallons of gas, it weighed 3180#.

1660# front, and 1700# rear.

Published weight by GM is 3175#.

It also has Lloyd floor-mats, which are legitimately heavy mats. I would say they added about 20# to my weight, because the Z06 does not come stock with a cargo mat, and that thing is big, and was heavy. The floormats had some heft to them as well.

With a full tank of gas in that configuration, it would have weighed 3216. Without the mats, I can EASILY see it cutting in under 3200#.

Being off by 20# is NOT! that bad for a factory spec. That is a margin of error of about 1%. This is the same as your 332bhp engine really being a 328.6bhp engine. Negligent.

Z would win if it came boosted