And that's the thing that gets me. You would think that if you work hard to get the money to pay for a 30k+ car, that other people would respect that. Guess not.

well mines almost 40k and i would think that they would provide better service but i guess not.

shitty dealers.

It should be a simple fix. Your car IS under warranty. So, they have to fix it. If I recall correctly, isn't the rule of thumb is, if you're driving on the highway and you let go your steering wheel, if the car goes to another lane in 7 seconds then your alignment is off?

Def. stay in the shop because this way you prevent multiple joyrides. Please note, they will STILL take the car out for a "Test Ride" once they are done with w/e problems you had. You can't stop it. They will probably do one as you bring it in to find your problem and one right after fixing the problem. But if you're not there and the manager is out, consider your car "joyride of the day".

Yep, that's what I have always heard. Luckily, mine doesn't seem to pull one way or the other, but I'm still going to have the issues with the wheel moving around when the road is bumpy just to put my mind at ease.

i hate the fact that they have to drive your car. THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. i saw this worker grind the $%&#@ out of someones 350z

Regarding the pulling to one side, are you guys sure it's not 'tramlining'? I don't know how bad your roads are so I can't say. But tramlining is when a road is so worn that both sides of the lane where wheels constantly go over have actually compressed down, and the center of the lane kinda comes up in a hump. When you drive over it, it's almost like you're driving on rails as your wheels want to conform to the compressed strips on either side of the lane, and the steering wheel will move itself to follow the compressed path (hence the name 'tramlining' as it's like being in a tram). Now, often time, roads aren't 100% level -- they're deliberately slanted off in one direction for water drainage. Combine this with surface compression, and you could experience pulling to one direction. Again, I haven't seen your roads, so this is completely speculative on my part, but I just want to throw it out there for consideration.

Regarding being worried that your car will be taken for joyrides by service techs. I always make a point of jotting down my odometer mileage when I leave my car, and I make sure the service advisor sees me doing it. That way they know I'm no fool and I'm keeping an eye on them. If I pick up my car and it has anything more than an extra 5 miles on it, I raise hell and tear them a new one. I picked up my car once and it had an extra 20 miles out of it. I raised such a stink that the manager took my invoice and marked it as paid in full just to get me out of there. He wrote off about $200 in charges.

Semtex is right on you guys. If you're only noticing the wheel pulling when you're coming to a stop on a grooved road, there is nothing wrong with your car. However, if you find the car pulling when you're driving along the majority of the time, then you have an alignment issue. One good way to make problems with your car is to take it to a dealer looking for problems when there is nothing wrong with it. That just leads to some mechanic taking things apart and driving your car around.

Two extra miles on the car is expected when you've taken it for service and claimed there is an issue while driving. They have to diagnose the problem. As Semtex said, 20 extra miles is not OK.

i'm going to jot down the miles on my car next time!!! thanks!

I hope you get yours fixed. This story illustrates why taking your time and going over everything before buying is SO important. Once you sign and pay, you're just not going to get the attention you do before paying.

Hope it works out for you.

YoungTurk

You're the ****ing man, semtex... If that wouldn't have helped you could've shown them the guns. lol

Well the SA will check the mileage on your car when you first bring it in, so everything should be recorded.

So what's tramlining like at 160-mph? :eekdance: :eek2:

^^hahaha!

Ahaha, hehe, whoo.

Reminded me of an old lady friend. She was up in Seattle for a summer, where apparently tramlines were horrible. Passed out on the highway driving a friend back from the airport. Apparently she had eyes closed for 30s or more before friend noticed. Car didn't budge from the lane.

If your car is steering while going over bumps, that's a very specific problem, known as (wait for it):

Bump steer. Bump Steer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's an effect of an improperly design or aligned suspension, and it is not acceptable for any modern sports car to have an issue with it. The cars need aligning.

LOL. Very funny. I'm actually really lucky -- the roads in my area are impeccable. That's what I love about Georgia -- they take really good care of their roads, and compared to some other areas of the country, enforcement of speed limits is pretty lax around here. And speaking of lax, the gun laws are relatively lax in this state as well. ;)

oh man not this threads so it looks like a lot of 370z have this problem...omg..:shakes head::eekdance::confused:

are they allowed to take a joyride without you been there? also if you are there and you dont want nobody driving your car can you just say no ill take it for a test drive see how it handles?

Could this be just a tire issue?


http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...0z-owners.html

Is the same problem:

I have noticed since the first day i bought the car when i stop (usually when its from a faster speed and its a more aggressive or sudden break) the car pulls so heavily to one or other side that if i dont hold the wheel significantly hard in the upright position i would hit traffic 2 lanes over.

Mine does this also, but as stated, it is only on worn and heavily grooved roads. On a smooth surface the car tracks straight, even from a sudden stop. Wide, low profile tires tend to do this.

John

I luckily do not have the problem with my 370z. The g37 I traded in had horrible alignment issues, pulled really hard to the right.

Yes, I have this same issue, it's seams to be a combination of tramlining and bump steer. The freeways out here are all grooved for rain, I think these tires or the alignment setting do not work for this type of road design.
The guys on the Mustang form use to experience this after lowering their cars, (bump steer) the solution was to put off-set steering rack bushings in to bring the steering rack back up to it's normal position. Seeing that no one on here has a lowered vehicle, that wouldn't be the issue. Wide tires and grooved roads do have some effect on this, but I think the solution may be different alignment specs.

The problem of doing alignments on brand new model of cars. Is that the cd updates for alignment racks only come once a year. I would suppose you could do a monthly update, but at $700 for the update its not cost effective. Nissan or other car companies do not have thier own alignment programs. They go through John Bean "Snap-On", or Hunter. A seasoned tech should be able to at least help you get your problem fixed though. then when the update is available get it checked again.

i'll let you guys know. so far, i do not have a problem with my car pulling. just the steering wheel is not straight. but i'll get the answers in hopefully a couple of weeks.

well im still waiting for them to call me back once they get their cd but im sure their not gonna call. so i need to keep on bugging them to do something about it:shakes head:

^persistence pays off. Keep on em'

i hope so lol


http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2...hasbegu.th.jpg :rock::rock::rock:

This shouldn't be that big a deal. The alignment specs have been over in the brakes and suspension section for a month now:

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...alignment1.png

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...lalignment.png