I drove both...

I bought a Z.

Although I regret not driving the new STi before, but sadly there isn't a Subaru dealership within an hour of driving distance that had one anyway.

I'd probably take the Z over the STI. Not terribly impressed with it.

Man you've got a tough decision to make, you COULD do yourself a favor and get the Z and have a great time but no back seats/kids OR try out the mustang with back seats even though it is still a two door sports car. I would assume that your kids are still young so you will have to drive them around for another couple years. Its is going to be tough to answer your situation, as most people by the Mustang or Z as their "toy" cars, not family cars. Instead of going for performance/speed maybe you should look at some other cars that factor in performance, convenience, and 4 doors. BMW 3 series, Audi A3 or A4, or maybe even a 4 door Subaru.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

I was looking for 370 recently and was told my its former owner to m4a1 to look at the 5.0. I did because well 426hp (i think) is pretty attractive and the insurance rates were much lower than a C6 Corvette. Great drivers car but interior does suck the vette that is.

The 5.0 was a good car I just personally didnt like how I sat in it. Also I felt the 370s handling was a bit more refined. While one might be faster on the track I would think the 370 would be easier to get that speed out of. And last the 370s interior won me over. I love how it sits and how the whole dash is set up. And lets face it the interior is where we spend most of our time.
Except the time I spend looking out the window at work looking at my 370. I liked the looks of the 370 better.

Like most people said YOU have to drive both and see how YOU feel. You have a lot more to worry about than I did (ie kids family) I would also suggest finding a good sport sedan or something instead.
if you can stand it a BMW 335i sedan isnt a terrible choice. I drove a couple year old ones. 09s should be coming off leases soon. Add about a $600 programmer and you can be pushing 400hp. and no one can say a BMW doesnt drive well.

Just my thoughts

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...at111517AM.png

Come on now, tell us how you really feel.

Finally, someone else who understands exclusivity is the most moot point in the mass production car game.:bowrofl: its not like anyone is paying an extra 5k to help build there own Z or has Mr. Rodriguez's signature on the headrest of there seats.
Not to mention, if imports don't sell a minumum of 15 to 20,000 units a year. What will happen is there will only be the four muscle cars as options. Most cars will be FwD again. BMW will be the only import choice and we will have a whole decade of boring cars. People who own Z's will see there insurance skyrocket as well as repair costs, if someone totals your Z, which we all can see is high within the realm of possiblity on this forum. You will have to buy an extremely used Z for its msrp worth or buy a muscle car.
The cost of exclusivity will only add up to a very slow outdated 370z that doesn't stack up to modern muscle cars (for the 1st time in history muscle cars care about handling. They will eventually catch up) and all you exclusivity heads will be reading car and driver, looking at pics of the JDM Z wishing it would come to the states one day. I remember what that felt like and it sucked big time. Eventually, the cost would outweigh the joy of owning the Z. I know first hand cuz I had the 93 mazda RX7. Sure everyone loved my car, but ipeople envying my car doesn't really add up in my list of being a man. After a few years without that car on sale it was a b1tch to get stuff for it or find qualified mechs for it.

2 hell with excusivity and keep the sports car market alive. Period

I'd buy two cars. Perhaps a used G35 now for the kids and in a year or so when the 2012's arrive get your fun car. G35's seem bulletproof as far as maintenance and are affordable.

My old car was totaled too and I had to hurry up and get another car pronto. I chose the Z without regret. No kids either. My dad had a sports car all his life and convinced my mom a 2+2 would be a good family car. It was not and we always went places, as a family, in mom's car. The Mustang is like a 2+2, poor as far as leg room goes. It can hold more groceries than the Z, but that being said, I prefer the Z, as it is a sports car.

So you won't buy a car if other people have it, yet you would look at a car just because of the way it sounds?

& of course the Mustang always comes out on top in every comparison and C&D named it one of the 10 best cars for 2011.

another point if you were looking for exclusivity you probably wouldnt be hanging out on a website full of other people who own the same car as you.

just a thought.......

that's why there are no supercar forums or meets.:ugh2:

when i see someone else with the same car i think..."cool someone is as smart and cool as me" :ugh2:

:happydance:

There are for GT-R's :tup:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most people who buy Lambos and Ferraris use it as a status symbol more than anything else. There are so few of these cars around compared to something like the Z and the enthusiasts are probably few and far in between.

You should come to NOVA more often. There are supercar meets every Saturday and Sunday. :tup:

There are much higher enthusiast rates with most supercars, especially "exclusive" classic cars, than with Z's.

Scion.

I saw that Scion smoke you at the last meet. You best watch your mouth.

:owned:

I guess I was wrong. It would be cool to check out one of those supercar meets.

Scions everywhere.

:ohsnap1:

Now that was a serious supercar enthusiast.

Dual exhaust FTW!!! That thing must make like 500 hp at the wheels. :roflpuke2:

I heard he's gonna swap in a 2JZ, looking to put 1000hp to ALL FOUR WHEELS!

:eek:

I hope the Scion guy at our meet doesn't get any ideas like that. It's so much faster than our cars already, I can't handle it getting any worse.

Damn he must be planning to race SRT-4s. :eek:

Thread==officially derailed.


Continuing down this line, the best part was the minivan blowing past him as he sped away uphill. I got a good chuckle out of that.

2JZ!!!! that will decimate all after you put about 10 maybe 15 thousand in it if you have to overnight the parts from Japan!!!

Those new minivans have like double the horsepower of his POS. :bowrofl:

I still want to build a turbo Odyssey. I think I could have some good times with that.

:iagree:

That was hilarious. It took all the power of his car and the extra power from the fart can to get up that hill. :roflpuke2:

Fix'd.

No back seats. We need the room to spread out.

I think Car and Driver dropped in a mazdaspeed turbo engine in a MP5 once.....

Fix'd Fix'd = Fix'd^2

fixed at
t=t0

fixed at
t=t0+k
where k>0

:owned:

I can't mess with the equations, but I can do this:

Fix'd(t=t0+k) >> Fix'd (t=t0)

At this point, Andrew (eggo), is probably thinking, "Gosh, I really hope you guys didn't do anything like this in your Zs..."

:bowrofl:

yeah but i did find some odd stains on the hood of your old car this weekend while washing. I had to get an orbital buffer out.

but

|Fix'd(t=t0+k)| << |Fix'd (t=t0)|

Which is what matters, as the quality of a fix becomes more negative as it gets better.

Did you get them out? Dude... I remember those. Effing hated them and I couldn't get them out with my PC. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but they annoyed the eff out of me. They just naturally appeared in the clear. :mad: