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WShade 04-08-2009 10:31 PM
I read somewhere yesterday that they got the 350hp from exhaust and a tune.

FricFrac 04-08-2009 10:39 PM
So what is the price increase from base - $10Kish?

sylenze 04-09-2009 12:09 AM
is it just me or the front looks like a celica?

tvfreakazoid 04-09-2009 02:43 AM
Yes that's correct.
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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 53950)
I read somewhere yesterday that they got the 350hp from exhaust and a tune.

tvfreakazoid 04-09-2009 02:58 AM
I was wondering will they only offer the nismo version only as a 2009 model year? Or will they offer this version in future models as well?

I think for the 350 they only did it one time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

MC 04-09-2009 03:02 AM
350z version was 2 years. they made 1607 of them


this one looks like it might be around for a while as the wording about the numbered plate talks about including the model year. so it seems its a permanent trim to me

alan93rsa 04-09-2009 07:31 AM
I called my dealer he seems to think he can get one in any of the standard colors. He's supposed to get back to me on the combinations.

scruffydog 04-09-2009 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by alan93rsa (Post 54054)
I called my dealer he seems to think he can get one in any of the standard colors. He's supposed to get back to me on the combinations.
i would love one in black!

miguez 04-09-2009 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by imag (Post 53458)
Dammit - the only thing I want is the seam welding. I don't like the nose or the wing - and I can buy the chassis bracing and exhaust - but seam welding at the factory - that's going to make me jealous if I just buy the Sport.

Urgh. What to do... (was planning on buying in May).
As someone else in this thread noted, the Nismo 370Z does not have seam welding, which the Nismo 350Z did. That being said, here's what the Edmunds article listed earlier in this thread says:

"Underneath its showy aero bits, the 2009 Nismo 370Z is a pretty hard-core machine. It's not seam-welded like the 350Z Nismo, but its chassis has been stiffened to the point that mass dampers have been fitted to control vibration.

The Nismo Z gets hollow antiroll bars, so they're lighter than the ones on the regular 370Z. The front bar is just 15 percent stiffer, but the rear antiroll bar is 50 percent stiffer, so the Nismo 370Z should turn in so quick, it'll seem it all happened yesterday already. The front strut tower brace is stiffer, too.

The damping on the Nismo 370Z is much more aggressive, too, with 40 percent firmer dampers up front and a huge 140 percent increase in the back. Roll stiffness is up 15 percent, too. So, yeah, you're going to notice something's up as soon as you get into the Nismo Z.

Spring rates are 15 percent higher than the regular 370Z in front and 10 percent higher in the rear. We're cautiously hopeful the ride won't be as harsh as on the Nismo 350Z, but aren't about to place any bets. The Nismo has the same 13.7:1 steering ratio as ordinary 370Z coupes, while its brakes are identical to those of the Sport-package 370Z, featuring 14.0-by-1.3-inch front discs and four-piston fixed aluminum calipers and 13.8-by-0.8-inch rear discs and two-piston fixed calipers.

To get that 350-hp rating, Nissan revised the ECM tuning of the VQ37VHR engine and fitted a less restrictive exhaust. The exhaust pipes are laid out in an H configuration for the Nismo 370Z instead of the Y-pipe on the regular Z, and have, of course, been tuned to deliver a deeper sound.

The 350 hp peaks at 7,400 rpm versus 332 at 7,000 rpm in the normal Z. Redline remains 7,500 rpm, though, so you'll really have to work to use that extra power. Torque edges up 6 pound-feet to 276 lb-ft at the same 5,200-rpm threshold."

Should be fun :).

k.alexander 04-09-2009 10:55 AM
I guess I have to be more or less the first one to say it, but I hate all the exterior body changes of the Nismo. Maybe I'm just getting older, but to me it screams RICE!!!

It's like they've taken all these beautiful lines of the 370, which really made it look so much like some older Porsches, and stuck crap on it from all sides. That goes double for the side skirts. Then they made it longer again (after shortening the base car from the 350) w/ that ridiculous nose, and yes it does look like a celica. And by far, the worst, the absolutely worst thing about it, are those cuts in the rear bumper--way to royally fk up a car.
<./END OF RANT>

The wing is actually not bad, I wouldnt get it, but depending on what you like, i can totally see some people jumping on it. I dont like the wheels as much as I do the sports package wheels, wish I had those on my base. The red stitching interior is cool too.

CrownR426 04-09-2009 11:03 AM
I think Nissan did a great job with this Nismo design! :tup:
Actually the nismos always look great.

370Ztune 04-09-2009 11:26 AM
I heard a rumor that NISMO is thinking about providing the new NISMO Z with an oil cooler. Since the car is more performance/track focused than the already amazing 370, it would make perfect sense IMO. Again this was just a rumor that I heard from the grape vine.

imag 04-09-2009 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 54135)
I heard a rumor that NISMO is thinking about providing the new NISMO Z with an oil cooler. Since the car is more performance/track focused than the already amazing 370, it would make perfect sense IMO. Again this was just a rumor that I heard from the grape vine.
They basically have to. If they put out a NISMO that overheats on the track after four laps, people will laugh at them. If they call the car track focused, which they do, it needs the cooler. Period.

tvfreakazoid 04-11-2009 03:03 AM
Looks better than the nismo 350 but still looks little rice ah roni. I bet a lot of teens would like it but I think people that are older won't like it as much. They should of made it more aggressive looking and not something a 16yr old would do to their car.

tvfreakazoid 04-11-2009 03:04 AM
So what are the big difference between a Y pipe and H pipe configuration? Is there another configuration that would be better than the H and Y.

k.alexander 04-11-2009 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 54879)
Looks better than the nismo 350 but still looks little rice ah roni. I bet a lot of teens would like it but I think people that are older won't like it as much. They should of made it more aggressive looking and not something a 16yr old would do to their car.
Agreed. You want to make a special version of the car, and you want it to look respectable, look at what BMW does with any of their M models (M3, M5, M6), don't take a truly beautiful car and make it look like a 16 yr old went to town on a civic. :shakes head:

Cupcar 04-11-2009 01:53 PM
What I don't get is that the Nissan literature lists the Nismo 370 at "Zero Lift" front and rear with a 0.3 coefficient of drag.

But Nissan also list the normal Sports Pack 370 model at "Zero Lift" front and rear at a drag coefficient of 0.29.

So, what is with the 370 Nismo's extra 7.1" length and all the extreme spoilers, diffusers etc. if they don't actually create downforce or improve drag values???

If the Nismo spoilers don't add anything but weight, I would like all the 370 Nismo chassis bits installed into the normal 370 Sports Pack's body.

imag 04-11-2009 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cupcar (Post 55009)
What I don't get is that the Nissan literature lists the Nismo 370 at "Zero Lift" front and rear with a 0.3 coefficient of drag.

But Nissan also list the normal Sports Pack 370 model at "Zero Lift" front and rear at a drag coefficient of 0.29.

So, what is with the 370 Nismo's extra 7.1" length and all the extreme spoilers, diffusers etc. if they don't actually create downforce or improve drag values???

If the Nismo spoilers don't add anything but weight, I would like all the 370 Nismo chassis bits installed into the normal 370 Sports Pack's body.
The more I go back and forth on the decision, the more I am thinking that I'd like to get the Nismo, but don't want that nose. For one thing, it's going to be a hassle - you can tell from looking at it that it's going to scrape on every driveway around. Likewise, I can't imagine the rear wing helps out the already-bad rear view by much.

I actually think the regular Sport is probably a more livable car, especially in Oakland, where the roads are just trashed. The thing that drives me nuts about the non-NISMOs is that the wheel offset doesn't fit the fender flares. It's inexcusable for a car like this to have such a basic screw-up. Buying spacers has the potential to screw up the handling (Nissan didn't spacer them for a reason), and buying larger wheels means paying for a sport package, then bailing on one of the more expensive components.

Bah. I almost wonder if they screwed up the wheel offset and thinned out the exhaust pipe on the regular 370 just so they could sell more high-margin NISMOs.

Osiris 04-11-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by imag (Post 55143)
The more I go back and forth on the decision, the more I am thinking that I'd like to get the Nismo, but don't want that nose.

:iagree:

That nose = Lame, Soft, non-sporty, Step Backwards

The stock 370z nose with the two slant-ins in the middle are spot on...gives the car that sportier, tougher, edgier look the 350z was sorely missing. This new nismo design is great all but for that 350z nose!

:thumbsdown:

dainedazz 04-12-2009 01:15 PM
z34 nismo looks hot. aint feeling the wing though.
i want that front nose though!
i wish they put the parts for sale!
i'd get the front nose EARLY!

juan05 04-12-2009 07:51 PM
from what i been reading some like the nose some hate it. i personally like the nismo i think they did a good job i just have to drive it see how it feels.. the nose well they made i to long if i get it im going to be paranoid taking curbs, parking to far in hitting the nose. ugh wish they made last second adjustments and get better nose...or leave the normal one in.

tvfreakazoid 04-13-2009 04:09 AM
Exactly! When you look at the M versions of the bimmers they do a good job of making the cars look nice, sexy and appealing. Where as with the nismo it looks like a 16yr old design the it. The back looks cool. The wing part is a little big. The side view is good, but the nose is the really deal breaker. They did a little here and there but they should of tried to loose a little bit of weight as well. But that's my personal feelings.

NisMoDo 04-13-2009 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sylenze (Post 53975)
is it just me or the front looks like a celica?
:iagree: id jus swap out the nismo nose for the base front and keep the wing. The Nismo front lost its aggressiveness, but besides that everything else is cool with me.

BanningZ 04-13-2009 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sylenze (Post 53975)
is it just me or the front looks like a celica?
Kind of, but what model of the 7th gens are you referring to? The 2000-2002's definitely had the fangs.


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...a_Front_21.jpg 2000-02

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...center_062.jpg 2000-02 w/original TRD lip

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...565x421_A5.jpg 2003-2005

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...65x421_A56.jpg 2003 2005 TRD package

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...nystes/i-1.jpg 2004-2005 Tsunami edition

scruffydog 04-17-2009 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 54994)
Agreed. You want to make a special version of the car, and you want it to look respectable, look at what BMW does with any of their M models (M3, M5, M6), don't take a truly beautiful car and make it look like a 16 yr old went to town on a civic. :shakes head:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree, if you want something that looks respectable, then you shouldn't be getting a Nismo Z in the first place. The Nismo Z appearance isn't suppose to be nor should it look anything like the M series of a BMW. First of all, none of the M series are dedicated for track, meaning none of their spoilers and wings/spoilers are nearly as effective as the Nismo one. If you want something that drives nice out in the street, then go get the Top of the line Nissan 370Z Touring/sports. Then you can call it respectable or whatever you want. The Nismo Z was said to be built dedicated for hardcore Enthusiast that want something that's all performance. That being said, those body kit aren't just to look all flashy but are actually functional. You swear if you drove a Buggatti Veyron out there with a huge wing in the rear, you swear someone's gonna make fun of it or don't think it's nice. If anyone who knows a little bit about performance wouldn't question why on earth would someone do something like that to a car. I'm sorry to say, but that lip of the M3 is seriously useless and hardly provide any downforce, sure the car looks classy, but you might as well not have it.

tvfreakazoid 04-17-2009 05:19 AM
I get what your saying but the body kit for the nose is Fugly as hell. They could of made a better looking, more aggressive nose that is functional. I think that's what the other guy is really trying to say about the M design for bimmers.
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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 58330)
I'm sorry but I have to disagree, if you want something that looks respectable, then you shouldn't be getting a Nismo Z in the first place. The Nismo Z appearance isn't suppose to be nor should it look anything like the M series of a BMW. First of all, none of the M series are dedicated for track, meaning none of their spoilers and wings/spoilers are nearly as effective as the Nismo one. If you want something that drives nice out in the street, then go get the Top of the line Nissan 370Z Touring/sports. Then you can call it respectable or whatever you want. The Nismo Z was said to be built dedicated for hardcore Enthusiast that want something that's all performance. That being said, those body kit aren't just to look all flashy but are actually functional. You swear if you drove a Buggatti Veyron out there with a huge wing in the rear, you swear someone's gonna make fun of it or don't think it's nice. If anyone who knows a little bit about performance wouldn't question why on earth would someone do something like that to a car. I'm sorry to say, but that lip of the M3 is seriously useless and hardly provide any downforce, sure the car looks classy, but you might as well not have it.

tvfreakazoid 04-17-2009 05:36 AM
I was wondering, someone here said that the 350 had 2yrs of nismo brand. What kind of changes they make between the first gen and the 2nd gen 350z nismo?

k.alexander 04-17-2009 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 58330)
I'm sorry but I have to disagree, if you want something that looks respectable, then you shouldn't be getting a Nismo Z in the first place. The Nismo Z appearance isn't suppose to be nor should it look anything like the M series of a BMW. First of all, none of the M series are dedicated for track, meaning none of their spoilers and wings/spoilers are nearly as effective as the Nismo one. If you want something that drives nice out in the street, then go get the Top of the line Nissan 370Z Touring/sports. Then you can call it respectable or whatever you want. The Nismo Z was said to be built dedicated for hardcore Enthusiast that want something that's all performance. That being said, those body kit aren't just to look all flashy but are actually functional. You swear if you drove a Buggatti Veyron out there with a huge wing in the rear, you swear someone's gonna make fun of it or don't think it's nice. If anyone who knows a little bit about performance wouldn't question why on earth would someone do something like that to a car. I'm sorry to say, but that lip of the M3 is seriously useless and hardly provide any downforce, sure the car looks classy, but you might as well not have it.

A: TVfreakazoid--What you said, is exactly what I meant.

B: Scruffy--um, maybe I'm a little confused, but what exactly is that fugly nose of the 370 nismo accomplishing??? And how much better are the coefficient of drag on the Nismo? Oh, right it's 0.01 better than the sports package model (0.29 vs. 0.30). Right, and the Nismo is heavier. So what exactly did Nissan accomplish here?

Now, I'll be the first to admit that this is my first Z and I'm new to the Z culture, and maybe I'm missing the point and don't know enough about the Z history. Maybe the Nismo was always supposed to look like it belongs in the speedracer movie (I say that in all seriousness), but if the above is not the case (and really in any event), I think the 370Z looks pretty freaking terrible. [EDIT: I MEAN THE NISMO MODEL]
For the record, i actually like the look of the 350Z, at least that one makes sense somehow.

Lug 04-17-2009 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 58401)
A: TVfreakazoid--What you said, is exactly what I meant.

B: Scruffy--um, maybe I'm a little confused, but what exactly is that fugly nose of the 370 nismo accomplishing??? And how much better are the coefficient of drag on the Nismo? Oh, right it's 0.01 better than the sports package model (0.29 vs. 0.30). Right, and the Nismo is heavier. So what exactly did Nissan accomplish here?

Now, I'll be the first to admit that this is my first Z and I'm new to the Z culture, and maybe I'm missing the point and don't know enough about the Z history. Maybe the Nismo was always supposed to look like it belongs in the speedracer movie (I say that in all seriousness), but if the above is not the case (and really in any event), I think the 370Z looks pretty freaking terrible.
For the record, i actually like the look of the 350Z, at least that one makes sense somehow.
2009 Nissan NISMO 370Z
The functional and fully integrated aerodynamic body pieces include an extended front nose design with a canard design at each corner for improved downforce and a fully integrated chin spoiler. The NISMO 370Z has an overall length of 174.3 inches. Special side sills and a unique rear bumper help control airflow under the vehicle, while the functional rear spoiler increases downforce.

The extra weight is from upgrades to stiffen the chassis, more than made up for by the boost in HP.

sensi09 04-17-2009 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Ztune (Post 53870)
Cool pic. I've always thought the side view was very porsche-esqe, even on the 350Zs.

But wow, check out the overhang on the GT3

scruffydog 04-17-2009 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 58401)
A: TVfreakazoid--What you said, is exactly what I meant.

B: Scruffy--um, maybe I'm a little confused, but what exactly is that fugly nose of the 370 nismo accomplishing??? And how much better are the coefficient of drag on the Nismo? Oh, right it's 0.01 better than the sports package model (0.29 vs. 0.30). Right, and the Nismo is heavier. So what exactly did Nissan accomplish here?
First of all, I do not know what you're talking about the Nismo nose looks fugly, I think it looks fine the way it is - and a lot of people actually like it much better than regular Z. Personally, I like the Nismo front nose more. Although I must say that front nose may actually looks less aggressive looking than the regular Z or what they initially intend to do with the S-Tune version but it blends in very nicely.

If you hate the looks of it so much, clearly the Nismo Z isn't for you. Neither is the Nismo 350Z as it isn't much different looking. And for the record, the front nose spoiler isn't made for only improving the coefficient of drag purpose only, it applies down force to the car as well and redistributes the air flow better. - Of course no one would really know if it does or not, I would think it's arguable to say either.

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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 58401)
Now, I'll be the first to admit that this is my first Z and I'm new to the Z culture, and maybe I'm missing the point and don't know enough about the Z history. Maybe the Nismo was always supposed to look like it belongs in the speedracer movie (I say that in all seriousness), but if the above is not the case (and really in any event), I think the 370Z looks pretty freaking terrible.
For the record, i actually like the look of the 350Z, at least that one makes sense somehow.
I hope when you said "I think the 370Z looks pretty freaking terrible" you're only referring to the Nismo one and not the 370z itself. Cuz you shouldn't be on this forum bashing on 370z as a lot of people would probably disagree with you of how the 370z looks. I agree with you of how they could have left certain features of the 350z the same when they converted to the 370z. For example, that added hump in the rear....they could have left it like the 350Z. But overall, I find the car looking pretty sweet.

And YES, the NISMO 370z should belong in a speedracer movie!!! :icon18:

sensi09 04-17-2009 12:14 PM
I'm a little surprised the front bumper is getting so much flack. I really like it and in person, I'm sure it will look even better.

Honestly I think if bumpers were switched and the Nismo bumper was the regular bumper and the other way around, people would be complaining about the regular bumper.

scruffydog 04-17-2009 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sensi09 (Post 58493)
I'm a little surprised the front bumper is getting so much flack. I really like it and in person, I'm sure it will look even better.

Honestly I think if bumpers were switched and the Nismo bumper was the regular bumper and the other way around, people would be complaining about the regular bumper.
Couldn't agree with you more. :tup:

I just hope they don't go too crazy with the price on these Nismos. I'm expecting no more than $40K, somewhere I read it's gonna be somewhere around $37K - which is reasonable, but at the same time prolly too cheap and not realistic. I just don't like how they'd MSRP this car way over what it's really worth b/c they know it's limited production and a lot of people would want it

k.alexander 04-17-2009 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 58492)
First of all, I do not know what you're talking about the Nismo nose looks fugly, I think it looks fine the way it is - and a lot of people actually like it much better than regular Z. Personally, I like the Nismo front nose more. Although I must say that front nose may actually looks less aggressive looking than the regular Z or what they initially intend to do with the S-Tune version but it blends in very nicely.

If you hate the looks of it so much, clearly the Nismo Z isn't for you. Neither is the Nismo 350Z as it isn't much different looking. And for the record, the front nose spoiler isn't made for only improving the coefficient of drag purpose only, it applies down force to the car as well and redistributes the air flow better. - Of course no one would really know if it does or not, I would think it's arguable to say either.



I hope when you said "I think the 370Z looks pretty freaking terrible" you're only referring to the Nismo one and not the 370z itself. Cuz you shouldn't be on this forum bashing on 370z as a lot of people would probably disagree with you of how the 370z looks. I agree with you of how they could have left certain features of the 350z the same when they converted to the 370z. For example, that added hump in the rear....they could have left it like the 350Z. But overall, I find the car looking pretty sweet.

And YES, the NISMO 370z should belong in a speedracer movie!!! :icon18:
Yes, I meant the NISMO 370Z "looks pretty freaking terrible.

Looks are a subjective thing. Everyone is going to have their own opinion. This is mine.

scruffydog 04-17-2009 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 58503)
Yes, I meant the NISMO 370Z "looks pretty freaking terrible.

Looks are a subjective thing. Everyone is going to have their own opinion. This is mine.
No worries, I totally feel ya man.

imag 04-17-2009 01:33 PM
When you read the Edmunds interview with the original Z designer, his quote didn't make it sound like he was too thrilled. He said he understood why they did it, but he didn't give it any praise.

I'm glad that Nissan worked so hard to keep the overhangs short - I feel like short overhangs almost always make a car look better - more tight. I too understand why they did the Nismo nose, and I even convinced myself that I didn't mind it so much, but then I realized I just don't think it fits with the car. The nice thing is, that opinion just saves me money ; ).

k.alexander 04-17-2009 01:35 PM
^ Yep. I LOVE the way my 370Z looks. I think the 370Z's appearance is PERFECT in many many ways. Nismo, though, is completely turning me off.

370Ztune 04-21-2009 07:46 PM
New footage of the NISMO 370.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VaZ3liyC5I0&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VaZ3liyC5I0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I don't know what it is duplicating the video so bare with me.


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