An Open Challenge to the Aftermarket

Jordo! · 03-10-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme

If aftermarket manufacture did that, then no one would purchase their products. It is part of advertising and marketing to exaggerate numbers and capitalize on customer's wishful thinking. All manufactures are there to make money. None of them make products because they care about you and want to help your car make the most power.

Captializing on wishful thinking is not acceptable. That's what a scam is.

Hence my challenge.

Consumers who care about where their money is going (and Z parts are, in general, not cheap) should make the same demands.

Listing wheel weights, for example, is not fvcking hard to do...

Likewise, it's not that hard or all that more expensive to demonstrate your intake can outdo a high flow panel filter on the OEM airbox.

If it can't, why should I buy it?

6MT · 03-10-2011, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Captializing on wishful thinking is not acceptable. That's what a scam is.

Hence my challenge.

Consumers who care about where their money is going (and Z parts are, in general, not cheap) should make the same demands.

Listing wheel weights, for example, is not fvcking hard to do...

Likewise, it's not that hard or all that more expensive to demonstrate your intake can outdo a high flow panel filter on the OEM airbox.

If it can't, why should I buy it?

YOU need to do some research yourself. Make an effort. If what you want is what you've said, then it's up to you to make an effort and find the "best" parts for your car. The facts are all over the place. The reviews are everywhere from a very wide range of drivers/owners. (Especially here on this forum.)

I'm not trying to be rude. But you can't expect someone else to do the work for you since you're the one who's spending the money.

And remember..... caveat emptor!!

Jordo! · 03-10-2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT

YOU need to do some research yourself. Make an effort. If what you want is what you've said, then it's up to you to make an effort and find the "best" parts for your car. The facts are all over the place. The reviews are everywhere from a very wide range of drivers/owners. (Especially here on this forum.)

I'm not trying to be rude. But you can't expect someone else to do the work for you since you're the one who's spending the money.

And remember..... caveat emptor!!

Yes I can -- they are making the money I'd be spending.

How exactly does a consumer make this determination without buying multiple sets of everything?

If a manufacturer is going to take the time to build a product and gather evidence of its effectiveness on the dyno, he might as well at least show it's better than a high flow panel filter -- that is not an unreasonable request.

Neither is it unreasonable to ask that dealers selling wheels provide some basic info about the wheel. They have them on hand to weigh; I don't until I buy it.

Some companies/dealers already do this -- I'm humbly asking that more do the same.

I'm not asking for exhaustive R&D here...

nicknick · 03-10-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Yes I can -- they are making the money I'd be spending.

How exactly does a consumer make this determination without buying multiple sets of everything?

If a manufacturer is going to take the time to build a product and gather evidence of its effectiveness on the dyno, he might as well at least show it's better than a high flow panel filter -- that is not an unreasonable request.

Neither is it unreasonable to ask that dealers selling wheels provide some basic info about the wheel. They have them on hand to weigh; I don't until I buy it.

Some companies/dealers already do this -- I'm humbly asking that more do the same.

I'm not asking for exhaustive R&D here...

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

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