Nissan didnt even have a GTR at this years Philly auto show :shakes head:...

I really don't think Nissan is planning in Direct injecting the 370z V6 engine. Looks like any chanes would be a smaller 6 cylinder direct injected motor, possibly turbocharged. I tried to find anything about it but only came across these;

Nissan Future Vehicles

http://www.play-auto.net/2010/06/nis...cedes-engines/

Sooner or later Nissan is going to have to do something. 22 MPG isn't going to cut it when the new standards kick in.

Would a power bump to 350hp or so really matter that much performance wise. I mean, the Nismo has that output, but the real world gains amount to milliseconds. It seems more about bragging rights than anything else. Something faster is always around the corner anyways. I think Z owners are at the same point GT-R owners were before the 2012's were announced. I hardly believe a faster Z would make mine any less fun to drive.

I'd be more interested in the new changes to the bumper, facia and overall design. I'm guessing Daytime Running Lights...

Any changes to the bumper and will be available to us soon after anyways.

I wasn't talking about you then was I? Move on

I more than agree with this statement. If the difference were almost a second (like the Stangs upgrade to 5.0 vs 4.6), I would be mad and consider a trade in. Even .5 hundreths of a second would not be enough to me.

I did not buy the Z for straight line performance only, it was the whole package...

Wow, this is already turning into the DE vs. HR wars from the 350 days and the specs haven't even been released yet, lol. I will say one thing, if Nissan does make this change, then I wouldn't expect the difference in performance to be minimal. There have been very few cars that have switched over to DI and not gotten significantly better. Odds are I'll be trading mine in if the difference is there.

I suppose you'll have to trade that in when the Z35 comes out.

Ugh. DE vs HR got ugly.


I hope a change like that doesn't happen just for the drop in value the early 370z's would take.

Great point :)

I remember when the E46 M3 came out and everyone was talking about how it was one of only (insert small number here) production cars in the world producing over 100hp/L. Although the increase in horsepower would not affect performance by much in real world settings, it is still important in this big pissing contest.

I see so many guys here in So Cal with exotics pushing out 400-600 horsepower that can't drive the car at all, but they still want to say they have that much power.

From a marketing standpoint, the HP numbers, 0-60 time, etc. definitely provide talking points and do generate interest. They make for magazine coverage and get people on the lots.

dont generalize then, Move on

:iagree: Mazda RX8=178HP per litre.....great handling car, but goes to show how numbers on paper can be deceiving.

Can you compare a rotary though?! The Renesis was such a disappointment.

That's what I'm saying...it doesn't always translate to the real world. Also, having owned an RX-8 I wasn't really disappointed. It's an impressive engine that's desperately needs FI. That much power from a rotary with that much displacement is still relevant considering a 13B N/A with roughly the same displacement were making around 115hp/liter a decade before.

Article below about DI on the Ms and Gs

Infiniti G37 and M Models to Get Direct Injection | AutoGuide.com News

The G sedan will be able to compete better with the 335 sedan

The G coupe competes better with the 335 coupe

The 370 is better than the 135 coupe and even closer to the 135 M


OR, A HYBRID 370Z

Nissan to Launch Hybrid 370Z sports car in 2011! > 370z.com > 370z.com - Magazine




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The Z coupe and G coupe are siblings. If there is a change in one's platform then it won't take long for the change the move to the other.

Yes, I probably will honestly, lol.

The new Mustang Gt 5.0 is way out of our league, it can actually be hanging with the e92 m3 at the track, the gt 5.0 aint just a straight line machine anymore especially if you get that brembo package.

but then i cant say the same for the camaro.

but either way driving a 370z and the gt 5.0 would be real different.
but if you want better times, the gt 5.0 would win hands on.

i agree, the 370z does need the DI. but there are way too many rumors, even about the Z getting the hybrid and diesel engines from Benz, has that been even confirmed yet?

We just gotta sit and wait right?

hands down*

Reading comprehension > you

interpretations skills > you

Hang on a sec. I would not classify the E92 M3 as a track car; it does have power and gets good times (like the 5.0), but it is not a track car, nor the 5.0; they happen to be cars that can go fast around a track (just like the CTVS or M5). Both of those cars are GTs; they have a degree of power, but are too heavy, long, or not enough power to be 'track cars'. Z06s, GTRs, GT3s; those are track cars. I would still take a 1M coupe, 370z, Cayman S, TTRS to the track over a 5.0 or M3, better yet a Z06, GTR, or GT3!!!! The M3 and 5.0 are fast GT cars on the track, but not track cars.

I also had an RX8 and completely agree.

wow you make a really good point.

but all i was saying is that nevertheless the gt will have better times, and times is what always matter to most people.

but yeah they are GT's

anyway, the 370z's VQ engines are getting old.

i also read this a while ago

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com

The GTR is a big heavy beast...

Lol you are the one who can't read and can't interpret a simple message.

I guess I was right about certain people being butt hurt. And yes, your insecurity is the best example ive seen so far.

I'm very excited about DI, none of my posts suggest otherwise. I guess in your own head you make sense of your miss interpretaion. Reading back on this thread i didnt see a single butt hurt member...but OK LOL

Rumor>GTR Motor>In the 370z>Spread it! Do it! Do it now!

So I was reading an Internet forum where someone who seemed to know someone who seem to know someone who knew someone from Nissan. Well he said in that post that in 2012 it will be a 380 Zx with a GTR engine!

Thx for the info junior.

:roflpuke2::tup: No problem bro!

we are getting the GTR motor!?!?!? will it have DI though....?

cool

Junior does your friend know if Nissan is going to make the Z AWD with dual clutch too?

AWD??????? I heard from a custodian ant my local Nissan dealer that the Z was goind FWD for better snow traction.

the z is already FWD in the snow.. if you turn your head and drive in reverse...

a rep told me that 2012 Z is gonna have targa top, and also "optional" turbo limited transponder inclusion rear stabilzer power exhaust intake manifolds spocket technologies...this should allow us to keep up in the 1/4 with the 5.0

but will it have sharks with freakin lasers attached to their heads?!?! I need to know, this is def the deciding point for me if I'm going to be trading in the '09 for the '12. Any help is appreciated!

Most Probable Mid-Cycle Rumor
 

Direct Injection (DI) for the 2012 Nissan 370Z is the most probable prognostication I have heard for this coming years Z. It should give a hp (not sure of 360hp) and fuel efficiency boost! Nissan better add more than just a new color, and heated seats in 2012, and history says they will!

"For the 2006 model year, the 350Z received a number of notable changes for its mid-cycle facelift. The 300HP/260TQ Rev-up engine that was introduced mid-year 2005 with 6-speed manual was offered for every trim now.” “The headlights now sported larger bi-xenon projectors, the front bumper had been revised, the rear taillights now use LEDs, and interior changes brought differences to the center console” (Nissan 350Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

We see Nissan rolling out the ESFLOW at the Geneva auto show (Videos - Free video downloads and streaming video - CNET TV) and all the exotics showing off more fuel efficient designs with added hp and torque. This is the new direction for near future cars not just HP or handling increases. In 2011 we saw a Mustang be the first car to break 300hp and get 30 mpg!

While I think a all electric or hybrid Z is too soon for next year a DI is what the doctor ordered. Heck even the new ugly duckling Nissan Juke has Direct Injection to give added performance and fuel economy. (Nissan JUKE : Direct Injection Gasoline | Cars Technology - Electric and hybrid vehicle system). If the entry level Nissan Juke can have DI you better believe Nissan can put that tech in the 2012 370Z.

I sure hope this rumor has basis as I finally have the coin for a 370Z and this upgrade would definitely help me pull the trigger on a 2012 370Z. Now if the revised front and rear facia changes allow for more situational awareness and views out the rear window id be in heaven, but that’s wishful thinking and not part of facia’s ;)