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meh, nismo or not, there are better things to worry about.
besides, at the end of the day, we all still share the same badge: http://wot.motortrend.com/files/2011...ster-badge.jpg good luck in the races guys :tup: |
A lot you guys need to stop breakin his balls about the name soo much & just enjoy all the R&D that's being put into these 3 grand am cars. The nismo name isn't even "that" special, really tho all it is, is a different body kit, slight ecu tweak, & a couple of suspension upgrades. Mike picked the nismo body kit because it is functional & he was allowed to do it, so why not get that edge? What if he bought an amuse kit, would you all be freaking out if he called it an Amuse 370z? Nope cus it'd be the same concept since it was still a base Z to start off with. Mike, thanks for representing us Z34 owners & picking the 370Z as your platform to race in.
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Nismo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It is Nissan's tuning & racing company, one reason people are questioning using the name. I am all for the R&D and hope it trickles down into the street market or track market, but for some people a name is what defines a brand. |
Exactly, it is not being sold as a Nismo, it is racing as a Nismo. Why would they start with a limited edition Nismo when they are throwing away most of the parts (entire suspension, engine, exhaust, interior etc)? Plus the car is going to get beat up. It's all about marketing, Nissan is going to want them to represent the Nissan Motorsport division, the areo is just a nice bonus.
I think what they are doing is cool and it is good to see a hard-core race build from the ground up. I for one will attend the Lime Rock race for sure. |
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I'm curious in the power to weight ratio you guys are going for! How much would an AM race car usually weigh and are you allowed to go boost or only stay NA? |
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Geez! Now I'm really sorry that I said anything.
Guys. When it comes right down to it, NISMO is not a car model. It means NIssan MOtorsports. So yes, these cars are, in facts, Nismo cars. |
I didn't say what you guys can or can't break balls about, all I said was give the guy a break.
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I guess I stirred up a Hornets nest when I mentioned it to start with. :icon14: |
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Thanks for all the enthusiasm guys! We really hope to represent the brand well and make every 370Z owner proud. You can be sure that we will have parts for sale coming from the R&D on the track :). |
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Our minimum weight is starting at 2900, and a target HP is around 400. More specs about the car will be available soon! |
It's a 370z and it has the Nismo bodywork. It's more a Nismo than not just based on aero bodywork. Race cars are rarely a true representation of actual production cars so just deal with it and let these guys update us to real progress rather than childish Nismo verse Touring or Sport discussions. Nismo in US is primarily defined by areo bodywork. And isn't it interesting that a race team sees advantage to the areo bodywork.
I will say Nismo is more than just suspension (springs, dampers and sway bars ), engine tune and better exhaust system however. We also get special nismo interior, steering wheel, shifter and seats, mats Nimsmo gauges, red Nismo engine cover, different chassis braces and yahmaha dampers, special sport wheels and brakes standard. We also get Nismo branded strut braces. And we get a Nismo special edition badge. We also get a cool yellow sticker that says our special bodywork can't go through an automated car wash. I do wonder why the team graphics are on plain 370z bodywork? Shouldn't it be on Nismo bodies? |
Sweet!! Man, I cannot wait.
To bad this series does not come to AZ..... |
I'll be rooting for you.
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When they get the Zs racing I'll want to watch.
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Make offer, buyer pays shipping! Also, you said something about the fact that NISMO owners paid more for their cars and that's part of the distinction. Trust me, you wouldn't pay what these cars cost for a 370Z! Anyways, we are working on a mockup using the NISMO bodywork, so that everyone can see that sweetness before the cars are done. Also, we aren't trying to pull a fast one on anyone by calling them NISMOs, as Brian said, we are forced to homologate them as such. There are significant aero advantages and we don't want to turn our backs to Nissan's MOTORSPORT arm, it would be pretty rude to not recognize NISMO with our racing effort. Can't we all just enjoy the fact that some win on Sunday, buy on Monday engineering is being done on some 370Z race cars, that will end up with sweet, properly engineered, and race proven parts being available to the public? I sure hope so! Mike |
Also, someone asked if any of us were Japanese. My step-grandmother was born in Tokyo, and is 100% Japanese. If it comes to it, we'll hire her to make us legit!
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in for updates. this is sweeeeet stuff
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Just to give you guys an idea about cost, a factory prepped Grand Am Boss 302 Mustang goes for $130K straight from the Ford Racing division. A.M. Performance isn't going to have the luxury of buying many off the shelf parts so they also have to spend lots of money on R&D. Granted they can recoup some of the money by selling parts they develop to us but it takes a long time to get back that investment.
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very cool! interested in this thread for sure
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I want to talk suspension setup with you guys. I'm stepping out of the Boxster below into a new Nismo that I will use for TT and Hillclimbs. |
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Feel free to stop buy anytime and check things out. |
I could care less if you guys call this a Nismo Versa GT-R V-Spec whatever... thats one hell of a build. Keep up the good work & good luck fellas.
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^This guy's alright. The name's kinda catchy, too. Mike |
Wow! Thanks again for taking time to let me see the shop and hear your plans this afternoon!
This is a serious shop and we will all be benefitting from AM Performance soon I'm sure. These guys know what they are doing and appear to have the backing to make things happen. I heard the list of parts they intend to develop and it's very exciting. They are co-located with a big machine shop as well. And anyone who doubts these are going to be true Nismo race cars rest assured these are being developed with Nissan support. These will be true Nismo race cars from what I gathered. Just built in California! Anyone living in the Bay Area owes it to themselves to head over the hill to Scotts Valley to see what is happening at AM Performance! |
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Jeez, if the Z was 2800 and had 400rwhp and 330rwtq, must be a badass Z indeed! Even though the Z is not boosted I still believe it can do very well in the AM-Series, hopefully even beat up stangs and bmws! :stirthepot: |
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I can't wait to see how this turns out! |
Nice a Z race team!
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Updated on 2/11/11
Hey all, just wanted to let you know we updated the thread and will in the future be posting the updates as reply posts.
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