Steve, a 370Z costs $67,000 here in Melbourne, a Porsche 997 starts at $225,000. Now I'll blindly accept it is better but look at the cost difference and I really would love to see some sort of professional test to evaluate the difference in terms of percentage. I'd wager that it would be less than 5% between the two yet the difference in cost is huge! Don't forget that Porsche makes the most profit from the sale of its cars, so to me what this implies is that they are ripping you off and you are paying a lot more then you perhaps should be paying for the car.
I mean if Nissan can ask $150,000 in Australia for their GTR, why is Porsche asking so much for standard 997 that is infeiror to the GTR?? I am a value for money kinda guy i guess but i do understand that to get fractionally superior performance it is going to cost more and more money but then that argument is blown out of the water by the GTR.

Holy cow that is insane! Over here a fully loaded Z will run you 38k vs. 77k for an entry level 911, or 50-60k for a more comparable Cayman S.

When I was shopping for a sports car I did a lot of back and forth between the Z and Cayman S. I felt like the Cayman was a better car in all performance categories, but to me it wasn't worth the extra 25k or so.

From a value perspective The Z will always come out ahead, but performance wise the P cars will best it. Its just up to you to decide if that step up in performance is worth a very large price difference.

You are my man as you read between the lines. As I said before, we are all car fanatics !!!!



Nickx2,
FYI, I wish I were 16 years old. Unfortunately, I am in my 40's. As for me not owning a Z, aaaahhhhh, please search on my posts. I still have a bunch of parts for sale if shipping to AU is no issue :) BTW, being mature, I apologize for my little hidden humor---- please take a deep breath and relax. As Rodney said, "Can't we all get along!" :)

Lastly, FYI, the MX5 was awesome. Unfortunately, we had to sell it as wifey decided to buy an automatic Honda Civic.

Well, since I am 16-years old, never owned a Zed, the above would be the car with off-road 4x4 capability (C4S). :driving:

3 days later and still no pics? But, you promised!?

Son.. I am dissapoint, and skeptical :pics:

:iagree::iagree:

:ohsnap1:

:)

Dear Missourians, :)

I am planning on sneaking out of the office in 25 minutes. It's cloudy outside, but WTH, let's plan on some pics. :)

Since you waited so long to post pics we are going to require the obligatory picture with your forum handle written on a piece of paper placed somewhere near a Porsche shield. :D

No sweat. I am in the computer industry and I think my photo-chop work can never be discovered.:icon17:


I will also provide a unique pic for you (Steve) so you may decipher the meaning of my handle from it.



Should I also provide an old pic of my Z for NickNick??????? :) As a warning, pics were never available when I was sixteen. Can someone provide this with a disclaimer? :)

Haha

Here you go...
 

Hope the car-fanatics would enjoy these. Actually, these are meant for the Missourians and the Doubting Thomases :)

Pic number 3 is my handle confirmation! :)

Pic #13 is the stupid gauge (4/4, 2/4.....).

Sorry about the mess. I was never ready to post pics.

Congrats... again. very nice

Looks great, man. Enjoy. :tup:

She's a beaut! Didn't know you had the 4s.

Good stuff.

what part of the state are you in?

Big thumbs-up! Beautiful model. I don't even have to add "enjoy" as that's pretty much a given.

Way to one up me, ya jerk. :bowrofl:

Thank you all for the compliments and congratulations.

Understand that these cars do require a lot of care and, based on my own experience, if you do not have the skills, patience, creativity, tools, you better have the money. Else, they might take you to the cleaners.

Yes, I am grinning now. But 'balance of nature' will kick-in years from now and I might cry. I do have extended warranty, so major expenses should be no issues. I do plan on doing my own minor maintenance, until years from now when the warranty expires. I think I would have won the lotto by then.

As you can see, I am somewhat equipped to do mechanical work. The only thing I am missing is a lift.

There was an S, but it was silver. Had not planned on getting the 4 due to weight. I came to realize that I probably would never hit the track so my ROI on the 4S grip would be greater.

So. Cal/Conejo Valley.

Nice! That's the upgrade I hope to make in a few years as well, Z to 997

Oooh that's a sexy car. I would definitely take her out for a nice steak dinner.

I hear that.. I got to drive a 07 S a few years ago when I was a tech for VW, excellent cars.. Reminded me a lot of the S2K I once had.. The gearbox, engine, and suspension were all in sync.. It was a dream :tup:

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but were oil temps a reason why you parted with the Z?

Hello Bob,

I do not think it would be Kosher to discuss the Z's alleged-characters here. As you already suggested, the character you mentioned has been a beaten-horse many many times. I had a 280Z before and was very pleased and has been, and will always be a Z-fan. I will always lurk here hoping for the next Z-generation.

All I can say is that the 997S remains at 210 deg max using the same path I used to take on the Z; the Z would hit 250-260 driven a lot easier and slower than the 997S. Given that the regular 997 has a lower HP rating compared to the S, I wonder what the temps would be.

As a Volkswagen (possibly Volkswagen/Audi/Porsche tech?), you probably have your own guidelines about oil and engines. Let's possibly leave that as-is to maintain harmony. :)

Congrats W-

Parked it right where the Z used to be :icon17: Can sure show those Cayman S's in your hood who's boss now. Enjoy!

that nick guy is a straight fanboy..
getting all worked up over nothing.
anways cool car +1

:icon18::icon18::icon18: Not sure about others but I did not get worked-up. Classic case of 'book info/education vs. experience.'

Thanks for the compliments.

Wow. That is such a pretty car. :tup:

I want a stop watch mounted in the dash, too! :icon17:

:)

I just saw this one and I thought, after almost 4 years, I would give an update:

1. The 997 C4S has been my daily driver.
2. 60,000 miles on her now and no major issues. I replaced the water pump and alternator recently. I do my own mtce so it has been pretty inexpensive to own.
3. Everything is still bone dry. No leaks or sweating of any kind.
4. As expected, I am on my 4th rear tires. These Michelins cost so much. Grrrr!
5. Still enjoying her everyday. No dings yet

Lastly, most importantly, and honestly
6. I do miss the Z. I still troll here and try to be incognito. I still stare at black Zs whenever I see one on the freeway.

Happy to hear, I'm sure the Z misses you too.

I would only replace my Z with a 997 S, absolutely nothing else out there that would satisfy me ... Congrats!!!

PS-you can always get a clean 350z and destroy it having fun, track, canyon drives, etc.

I am actually in the lookout for a black Z with S-Rev. Once in a while, I would like to take a break from having to manually S-Rev the 997C4s. :)

Actually (again), I do have a 911SC that I use to rip around Mulholland Hwy and Decker Canyon. The P-Car is more planted and more communicative and I feel safer that way. :)