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CrownR426 01-08-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 886504)
Crown, education comes first. You have ALL YOUR LIFE to enjoy and buy whatever you like. But right now your main goal/focus should be on education. As RCZ and some others said, sell your 370Z and get a cheap affordable car (May I suggest 2011 civic. Get 38 MPG on highway and you can buy one for like 15K invoice or a 2011 Nissan Versa for 13K brand new). That's what I would do. I have simply seen way too many kids buying expansive Benz and Bimmer to act cool in school, then ended up working 40 hours a week to pay for it. Due to working so many hours, they keep dropping class, getting Cs or delaying their graduation. You have to get your goal straight Crown. Of course this is just my opinion and I'm only telling you this because I like you.

Yes, I have been thinking about this too. :shakes head:
I guess some budget cuts won't hurt and I need to start looking for some rims and snow tires. :eek:
My trade in value was horrible O____O;; :ugh2:
I thought I was being played with.

Jessobear 01-08-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 886504)
Crown, education comes first. You have ALL YOUR LIFE to enjoy and buy whatever you like. But right now your main goal/focus should be on education. As RCZ and some others said, sell your 370Z and get a cheap affordable car (May I suggest 2011 civic. Get 38 MPG on highway and you can buy one for like 15K invoice or a 2011 Nissan Versa for 13K brand new). That's what I would do. I have simply seen way too many kids buying expansive Benz and Bimmer to act cool in school, then ended up working 40 hours a week to pay for it. Due to working so many hours, they keep dropping class, getting Cs or delaying their graduation. You have to get your goal straight Crown. Of course this is just my opinion and I'm only telling you this because I like you.

Best advice in this thread. Hands down.

antfd3s 01-08-2011 03:00 PM

I agree with everyone about regretting the switch over to an evo. Especially if you already have awesome whip. I know all about wanting something different during these winter months. It snowed today, i know. I live in the same state as you. Thats why I have a 99 Altima... beater!!. That cars mad dependable, 4drs and you can have more then 1 friend in it!! Also its fun in snow. In the EVO? why get a brand new car just for the snowy days. Thats silly. Your gonna miss having the Z. Think smart, instead of buying upgrades on the Z save and get a DD. Bought mine DD for 2gs with 85k on the dash. Ever think of having a car to drive without worrying about breaking it?? That evo will eventually break and will cost you money and a crap load of " we told you so"

Your being overly dramatic about the who thing. Its funny, i feel like im being a parent that's saving my son from making another bad decision. Meaning getting a Z in the first place and being student with not alot money and purchasing a non practical vehicle? Not good. But so what, nobody's perfect.I bought a Z to and i don't even have a crib, nor a garage to keep it in..lol But this your moment, not mine. Good luck my son..may the Z be with you..:driving:

Kastley85891 01-08-2011 03:06 PM

Sell ur Z, go get a used EVO8 RS pre modded.

chuckd05 01-08-2011 03:07 PM

Evo = $$$ pit

And the only thing it has on the z is speed after extensive moddding

Vegitto-kun 01-08-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 886508)
Yes, I have been thinking about this too. :shakes head:
I guess some budget cuts won't hurt and I need to start looking for some rims and snow tires. :eek:
My trade in value was horrible O____O;; :ugh2:
I thought I was being played with.

See you should always listen to what your elders say :roflpuke2:

chuckd05 01-08-2011 03:18 PM

I get the feeling crown won't baby a car a modded Evo will eat syncros for lunch , the z is atleast reliable and has a warranty. Evos also always can go faster and mOdding gets to be a habit .. My fav is a 9 MR tho. Sick car just not any cheaper IMO

Looks are subjective but the z is def a classier car

I picked up a 97 Subaru legacy GT 2.5. For this winter. I have had a blast in it. Keeping miles off the Z plowing through snow and when I drive the Z it feels like a Ferrari now. It's awesome, 2k well spent.

Kastley85891 01-08-2011 03:20 PM

Pay to play - if you cant fix it dont mod it, having said that - if you have not popped a motor you aint lived... lol ;-)

CrownR426 01-08-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 886559)
Pay to play - if you cant fix it dont mod it, having said that - if you have not popped a motor you aint lived... lol ;-)

Did not pop a motor nor do I want to experience that. :tup:
I don't think I have it in me to let my Z go...
Just can't go out every weekend to the city.

CrownR426 01-08-2011 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 886555)
I get the feeling crown won't baby a car a modded Evo will eat syncros for lunch , the z is atleast reliable and has a warranty. Evos also always can go faster and mOdding gets to be a habit .. My fav is a 9 MR tho. Sick car just not any cheaper IMO

Looks are subjective but the z is def a classier car

I picked up a 97 Subaru legacy GT 2.5. For this winter. I have had a blast in it. Keeping miles off the Z plowing through snow and when I drive the Z it feels like a Ferrari now. It's awesome, 2k well spent.

I've done a great job on my Z so far!
Just wish I can drive it in snow. lol...
I always have a shovel/ice breaker/salt with me when I drive.
Just incase I get stuck XD

Vegitto-kun 01-08-2011 04:58 PM

Its called something like snow/winter tires


ever heard of it. alot cheaper than buying a Evo.

CrownR426 01-08-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 886652)
Its called something like snow/winter tires


ever heard of it. alot cheaper than buying a Evo.

Yes, I can name many things I'd love to have.
Until then I must wait.

Vegitto-kun 01-08-2011 05:22 PM

Yes but here you make a topic about selling your Z and knowing you will lose money and then buying a Evo.

But snow tires are NO WAY.

No offense mate but this somehow smell of attention seeking/boredom.

CrownR426 01-08-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 886673)
Yes but here you make a topic about selling your Z and knowing you will lose money and then buying a Evo.

But snow tires are NO WAY.

No offense mate but this somehow smell of attention seeking/boredom.

None taken! :tup:
Didn't expect this much hatred towards my decicions and reasons.
lol... :ughdance:

fullmonty 01-08-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 886673)
Yes but here you make a topic about selling your Z and knowing you will lose money and then buying a Evo.

But snow tires are NO WAY.

No offense mate but this somehow smell of attention seeking/boredom.

Vegitto IMO 99% of your posts smell of attention seeking and boredom. Lay off him a bit, don't think you are any better or different then him. He's 21 and paying for his car which says alot more about him than alot of people on these forums, yourself included.

Vegitto-kun 01-08-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 886679)
Vegitto IMO 99% of your posts smell of attention seeking and boredom. Lay off him a bit, don't think you are any better or different then him. He's 21 and paying for his car which says alot more about him than alot of people on these forums, yourself included.

I might have been abit too harsh I admit.

and myself included? I bought the car myself

CrownR426 01-08-2011 05:34 PM

No more guys!
:D
I think I'll be keeping my Z for years to come.

fullmonty 01-08-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 886684)
I might have been abit too harsh I admit.

and myself included? I bought the car myself

I'm sorry, its hard to follow with you. In one post you bought it, the next your parents then you parents loaned you the money, I just have trouble keeping up.

Vegitto-kun 01-08-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 886687)
I'm sorry, its hard to follow with you. In one post you bought it, the next your parents then you parents loaned you the money, I just have trouble keeping up.

I am paying both the bank and my parents. Bank wouldn't let me loan that much money so I split it up between my parents and the bank.

chuckd05 01-08-2011 06:47 PM

My z will go just fine In the snow with my snow tire/rim setup.

Check my350z for lightly used winter setups. That's what I did, wheels from discounttire for 420 and tires for 250. 670 later I can drive in a blizzard if I had/chose to

CrownR426 01-08-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 886722)
My z will go just fine In the snow with my snow tire/rim setup.

Check my350z for lightly used winter setups. That's what I did, wheels from discounttire for 420 and tires for 250. 670 later I can drive in a blizzard if I had/chose to

COO :tup:

Nitrouz 01-08-2011 07:40 PM

Stay here dude. You seem like a cool young man, taking all the bashing here with stride. Don't make a decision you'll regret.

NyCSnEaK 01-08-2011 08:11 PM

When I started this thread I was like :o, then :icon14: and upon completion :rock:. Glad your sticking with the Z.

CrownR426 01-08-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitrouz (Post 886777)
Stay here dude. You seem like a cool young man, taking all the bashing here with stride. Don't make a decision you'll regret.



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Originally Posted by NyCSnEaK (Post 886805)
When I started this thread I was like :o, then :icon14: and upon completion :rock:. Glad your sticking with the Z.

Thanks guys. :tiphat:

Pushing_Tin 01-08-2011 08:31 PM

Congrats on the new old ride! :icon14:

Reaper42 01-08-2011 08:40 PM

My theory is parents are paying for it and he was just seeking attention to have his parents buy yet another car for him. There is no way in hell a 21 year old full time in school can afford to pay for a brand new 370z, nor would he ever get qualified to buy one.

CrownR426 01-08-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper42 (Post 886840)
My theory is parents are paying for it and he was just seeking attention to have his parents buy yet another car for him. There is no way in hell a 21 year old full time in school can afford to pay for a brand new 370z, nor would he ever get qualified to buy one.

That would be nice. :tup:

c41006 01-08-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 886686)
No more guys!
:D
I think I'll be keeping my Z for years to come.

That is what I like to hear :tup:

chuckd05 01-08-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper42 (Post 886840)
My theory is parents are paying for it and he was just seeking attention to have his parents buy yet another car for him. There is no way in hell a 21 year old full time in school can afford to pay for a brand new 370z, nor would he ever get qualified to buy one.


a waitor living at home, a bartender, constuction workers who do side work for people or their own on the weekends, and a ton of other jobs could easily have you afford this car.. can do school at night as well


my girl got a 2.9% apr used car loan from her credit union when she was 23 for a 06 325xi.. your statement is not valid.

fullmonty 01-08-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper42 (Post 886840)
My theory is parents are paying for it and he was just seeking attention to have his parents buy yet another car for him. There is no way in hell a 21 year old full time in school can afford to pay for a brand new 370z, nor would he ever get qualified to buy one.

You wana bet? Its a Nissan, not a Aston Martin. Sounds like you're upset you couldn't afford it at 21. Get over it

Skunky 01-08-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 886060)
I havent heard alot of good things about the new Evos.

only things I remember is shitty *** gearbox and extremely mod unfriendly.

maintaining costs alot of money? its like what? a oil change once or twice a year?

the tickets problem isn't the car but you.

The Evo X GSR's tranny is just about bullet proof and all Evo X's can get an easy 90+ brake horse power with just a tune ($500). They are about the cheapest performance cars to mod on the road today. A Tune, hard upper intercooler piping and exhaust will easily net you 110+ horsepower at the wheels. Evo's of the last generations continually set records in all race disciplines they participate in.

nuTinmuch 01-09-2011 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunky (Post 887057)
The Evo X GSR's tranny is just about bullet proof and all Evo X's can get an easy 90+ brake horse power with just a tune ($500). They are about the cheapest performance cars to mod on the road today. A Tune, hard upper intercooler piping and exhaust will easily net you 110+ horsepower at the wheels. Evo's of the last generations continually set records in all race disciplines they participate in.

No. You will not get 90+ from just a tune. From a downpipe, cai, and a tune? Yeah, that's reasonable.

Keep in mind though -- even with all of that, you will just be touching what a 370Z has at the wheels, stock.

The Evo X is a great car -- don't get me wrong -- but if you are really looking for "big power" it is still going to cost you some major cash. You hit a wall around 330 that requires an investment to get past.

I'm not getting into this argument here, though. :p

It's a great car, but both the STi and the Evo are -not- the heroes they once were.

Zikizira 01-09-2011 07:34 AM

I have subscribed to this forum at 2009, when I was looking for more information about the Z, which would replace my wife's Eclipse GT. At that time, I was about to receive my Evo X GSR. I really love the Z. The day we purchased the Eclipse, we have test-driven a Z. My wife have chosen the GT, due to cargo and rear seats. This reason proved right these (almost) 3 years. Although having 6 other cars (from d.d sedans, to 730hp DSM), we find ourselves needing cargo space and the rear seats a lot of times. We have 2 children.

Even so, we are constantly attracted by the Z and sometimes we thought on trading it for a Z, specially after the 370Z got released.

It looks there are some misconceptions regarding the Evo X, which is totally normal for non-Evo guys:

- The MR version has the automated transmission. It is fully modded with bolt-ons and even upgraded turbos. You might get a 320-330whp MR with just simple bolt-ons. There are 500awhp MRs over there, but you will waste more money, since the transmission (as stock) is not able to handle a ton of torque;
- The GSR version has the manual transmission. It is fully modded. There are 816whp GSR over there. The clutch sucks, if you plan to launch often;
- The new Evo is slightly slower on long straights, compared to the IX. But it is better or, at least, equal, on slalom and skidpad. On road racing, there are mixed results for the stock. But due to its higher rigidity and equilibrium, the Evo X shines in its capability as a base for modded time-attack warriors. In this regards, since 2009, the Evo X have been beating older Evos in almost all Time-Attack events. But remember: we are talking about modded cars.

Stock x Stock, I am almost sure the 370Z beats the Evo X on straights. As stock, Evo X is not that fast, but with just a reflashing ($179, for the Tactrix cable), I am sure it will beat a stock Z. My friend has an Evo X and a 370Z. Before reflashing, the Z was faster. But not after it. Anyway, its not that big difference and for street use, we all know power-weight is not the only variable.

If he is going to stay with a stock car, or just simple bolt-ons, the maintenance cost is quite low for the X. But I guess this is the same with the Z.

Performance wise, both are quite similar as stock.

The difference start at their d.d. suitability.

If the guy is in school, he might need to carry friends, and maybe the cargo would be nice for baggage. But thats his decision.

Best regards,
Ziki

ImportConvert 01-09-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 886999)
a waitor living at home, a bartender, constuction workers who do side work for people or their own on the weekends, and a ton of other jobs could easily have you afford this car.. can do school at night as well


my girl got a 2.9% apr used car loan from her credit union when she was 23 for a 06 325xi.. your statement is not valid.

X gf bought a $40K S40T5 Volvo when she was 20. Age has nothing to do with it.

I agree with you.

UNKNOWN_370 01-09-2011 09:18 AM

It doesn't make any sense at all if you are talking about saving money... And about the tickets. How does it translate that the Z is too expensive cuz you get tickets? If the evo is in the same power range how will it change you getting a ticket with an evo?

If cost is a factor and you don't want tickets but want a cool looking econocoupe with sporting intentions. Try a honda CRZ. You get great mileage and its 8 seconds to 60 should be quick enough for highway merging. Or you can try a mazda 3 touring, hyundai sonata 2.0t, subaru wrx. Also the mazda miata might be a good option or maybe even a genesis coupe 2.0.

Any car you buy in the Z and performance range will be just as costly in maintenance, if not more expensive. The Z is one of the cheapest cars to maintain in the performance segment. As far as tickets, only you can change that. Not the car.

IDZRVIT 01-09-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 886999)
a waitor living at home, a bartender, constuction workers who do side work for people or their own on the weekends, and a ton of other jobs could easily have you afford this car.. can do school at night as well


my girl got a 2.9% apr used car loan from her credit union when she was 23 for a 06 325xi.. your statement is not valid.

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 887023)
You wana bet? Its a Nissan, not a Aston Martin. Sounds like you're upset you couldn't afford it at 21. Get over it

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 887174)
X gf bought a $40K S40T5 Volvo when she was 20. Age has nothing to do with it.

I agree with you.

Not so long ago tens of thousands or more Americans bought homes at low interest rates because they could afford it............... Thanks for the market crash.

The point is, even if you manage to get a loan, it doesn't mean you can afford to pay it off.

CrownR426 01-09-2011 10:56 AM

Thanks for the encouraging words, chaps!
D:

k20z3 01-09-2011 11:01 AM

Crown, you know me having a civic I would LOVE TO BE IN your shoes right now to have a Z. Appreciate what you have, don't act on impulse and enjoy your car and relive the first day you got it when you get a compliment on it.

CrownR426 01-09-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by k20z3 (Post 887279)
Crown, you know me having a civic I would LOVE TO BE IN your shoes right now to have a Z. Appreciate what you have, don't act on impulse and enjoy your car and relive the first day you got it when you get a compliment on it.

I know bro, I am told everyday and it's not like it was given to me.
Ever since I heard about the 370Z coming out I've been busting my ***. rofl...
Anyway I'm going to keep her and am currently looking for winter setups.
That or I'm not gonna drive it and I'll just prepare for spring time. :driving:

k20z3 01-09-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 887282)
I know bro, I am told everyday and it's not like it was given to me.
Ever since I heard about the 370Z coming out I've been busting my ***. rofl...
Anyway I'm going to keep her and am currently looking for winter setups.
That or I'm not gonna drive it and I'll just prepare for spring time. :driving:

Or buy a car cover -- buy a beater for the amount you'll pay for rims/winter tire set-up and then go bang bang skeet skeet in the winter ha:koolaidwall:


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