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ImportConvert 12-22-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 861622)
Lesson learned. Don't swerve.

Of course, suppose OP had not swereved because OP was scared of hurting his car and some jackass...and his 2 year-old in the back seat who had no choice in the matter...were killed. Or maybe just the kid died. Who knows? Best to take the road with less unforseen consequences. I am not saying "sacrifice yourself" or any such nonsense, I am just saying cars are cheap compared to how well you sleep at night.

You never know what is going on in another vehicle. I think OP did the right thing and am glad they are OK and the car was totalled. You don't WANT a sports car with a branded title and a major accident. It may never be right again--and even if it is--resale is gone. What happened, happened. Insurance doesn't go up on amount of damage, but rather number of incidents. At least, that is USAA's policy. I presume others are similar. Glad you are okay!

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 07:50 AM

In general you should just hold your ground and make it the other driver's point to avoid you, but in the heat of the moment you made what you felt was the best decision at the time. There's really no point in looking back and second-guessing. Glad you're OK. Sorry to hear about the Z. :(

Mt Tam I am 12-22-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ (Post 861578)
tbh, it would have been a piss poor decision to get hit by another car going at 80 mph. who knows what sort of injury that might have caused, whiplash, back problems etc etc. they say if u have some sort of back injury, no matter what kinda therapy or w.e u go to u never get healed to 100%. better to get out of the way pay the premium and either fix or total ur ride.

A hit at 80 MPH is going to be a hard hit. I understand about "the other guys fault" premise but you are uninjured. We have insurance, for just this sort of thing. I know how maddening this must feel too, I hope you get through this quickly.

spearfish25 12-22-2010 02:40 PM

Maybe the other guy was racing his pregnant wife with crowning baby to the hospital. Avoiding an accident is always better than being in one, and the fewer involved cars the better.

Vegitto-kun 12-22-2010 04:56 PM

sucks man.

don't get a nismo, it is not worth it :p

kgreen 12-22-2010 06:34 PM

So i just left the body shop and the adjuster had just left right before i got there. The rep said he was up to about 16.5K for right now. he said he was going to send in the paper work and let claims handle the rest. They still have to factor in the supplemental cost, rental car, labor etc. Rep told me it was borderline for right now and that theyre bodyshop does 75% of current value to determine total loss. My insurance is State Farm..do u guys think it will be totalled or not?

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 06:45 PM

Hmm... could be.

kgreen 12-22-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 862808)
Hmm... could be.

im hoping i dont want a car with a bad carfax. kbb says my trade in value is at around 23-24K...using basic math 75% of that is 18K

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 06:50 PM

Yeah, I would hope the thing gets totaled too. Any idea what you'd replace it with if it does? Another Z? Something else?

kgreen 12-22-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 862818)
Yeah, I would hope the thing gets totaled too. Any idea what you'd replace it with if it does? Another Z? Something else?

thats what ive been brainstorming about all day. I cant think of any other car i want within the same price range..and sorry no mustang for me lol. im really having a tough time thinkin of something. the only thing i miss is having 4 seats.

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kgreen (Post 862828)
thats what ive been brainstorming about all day. I cant think of any other car i want within the same price range..and sorry no mustang for me lol. im really having a tough time thinkin of something. the only thing i miss is having 4 seats.

:icon17:

I think about what my next car will be usually within a few hours of buying. :facepalm:

kgreen 12-22-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 862836)
:icon17:

I think about what my next car will be usually within a few hours of buying. :facepalm:

lol if i didnt say that i bet u would have said a mustang! im thinking about a used isf if i can find one..

sonic370 12-22-2010 07:28 PM

good to hear your ok....

reading about all these wrecks makes me want to garage mine for a while....
bad month for our cars...

kgreen 12-22-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 862933)
good to hear your ok....

reading about all these wrecks makes me want to garage mine for a while....
bad month for our cars...

tell me about it..prior to it happening I felt bad for the other owners. then BAM im one of them lol

mick 12-22-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kgreen (Post 862845)
lol if i didnt say that i bet u would have said a mustang! im thinking about a used isf if i can find one..

when i bought the z, i didn't do any research. i bought it because i liked what i saw. had i done my research, i probably would have gotten a gt500 instead.

spearfish25 12-23-2010 07:06 AM

Don't get too whipped up with a new car until you know it's totaled. Otherwise it's a whole repeat cycle of death, dying, and bereavement to get over the bad news that the car is still yours. Assume it's yours and you're going to have it repaired...then anything else is just gravy. A neighbor advised me recently that I should have hit the sides and back of the car before the appraiser came out. Totaling a car means you either have to hit the living $hit out of one side or just moderately bang up a couple sides.

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 863206)
when i bought the z, i didn't do any research. i bought it because i liked what i saw. had i done my research, i probably would have gotten a gt500 instead.

I looked at both, the GT500 crowd is NOT full of happy campers, and I see a lot of them on the Shelby forum dumping their cars becuase they reject shifts, grind badly, Ford isn't fixing the problem in many cases, on and on. The GT500 is a nice car with a few issues in the works still. It's fast and handles well, yes, but its no fun when you can't shift into 2nd within 500rpm of redline without getting a nasty grind or a reject.

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 863526)
I looked at both, the GT500 crowd is NOT full of happy campers, and I see a lot of them on the Shelby forum dumping their cars becuase they reject shifts, grind badly, Ford isn't fixing the problem in many cases, on and on. The GT500 is a nice car with a few issues in the works still. It's fast and handles well, yes, but its no fun when you can't shift into 2nd within 500rpm of redline without getting a nasty grind or a reject.

:icon18:

StealthZ 12-23-2010 08:19 AM

man, sorry to hear about it. I had a similar issue happen to me once while trying to avoid the accident by a dumb Virginian who runs red lights, but all I had was a new front bumper due to scratches and superficial damage. All the luck and thankfully your safe.

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863554)
:icon18:

I know, I know, tempting to :icon18:, but I feel bad for these guys. SPending almost $60K on a car you can't shift normally, that the company says has a problem, that they refuse to fix.

Lemon Law claim coming over Ford's refusal to address 1-2 grind problem - Team Shelby

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Originally Posted by StealthZ (Post 863558)
man, sorry to hear about it. I had a similar issue happen to me once while trying to avoid the accident by a dumb Virginian who runs red lights, but all I had was a new front bumper due to scratches and superficial damage. All the luck and thankfully your safe.

No ageism, racism, sexism, etc. but I find your statement completely stateist!

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 10:34 AM

All I know is there are a handful of complaints with the Shelby's but that probably affects less than 3% of the ownership group. The only issue about buying a 2011 GT500 now is knowing the next generation is going to be an SC or TT 5.0 that will wipe the floor with it.

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863741)
All I know is there are a handful of complaints with the Shelby's but that probably affects less than 3% of the ownership group. The only issue about buying a 2011 GT500 now is knowing the next generation is going to be an SC or TT 5.0 that will wipe the floor with it.

The point is that Ford knows there is a problem, says its not right, and refuses to fix it. Who wants to own a car from a company that won't honor warranties when it has been determined that a 100% stock car showing no abuse is defective in function? Not I!

mick 12-23-2010 11:34 AM

wow. now that you told about the shortcomings of the gt500, i don't like it very much anymore -- thanks for the information :)

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 863761)
The point is that Ford knows there is a problem, says its not right, and refuses to fix it. Who wants to own a car from a company that won't honor warranties when it has been determined that a 100% stock car showing no abuse is defective in function? Not I!

OK, so there are a few cases on the internet that we don't have all the facts for and somehow we can extrapolate from that that it's somehow a bad buying choice? I guess that's ImportConvert logic for you. After all, that's how you determined you didn't like the 370. But instead of just moving on and looking for a new car to buy, you stick around to constantly remind us of it's shortcomings and why other cars are better because you somehow have an endless knowledge of (or at least opinions on) every single car ever made from 1900 onwards.

Every car has issues. Yes, sometimes manufacturers will not fix these issues because of reasons that may or may not have been fully disclosed on the internet. Does a handful of cars out of thousands and thousands produced make a trend? NO.

Cool story, bro.

Sibze 12-23-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 863761)
Who wants to own a car from a company that won't honor warranties


You will never own a car again then... Ever... And the world will be thankful of this because you will not be able to bitch about a car you don't own......


O wait... What are you doing on this site again? :icon14:

Jeffblue 12-23-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863818)
OK, so there are a few cases on the internet that we don't have all the facts for and somehow we can extrapolate from that that it's somehow a bad buying choice? I guess that's ImportConvert logic for you. After all, that's how you determined you didn't like the 370. But instead of just moving on and looking for a new car to buy, you stick around to constantly remind us of it's shortcomings and why other cars are better because you somehow have an endless knowledge of (or at least opinions on) every single car ever made from 1900 onwards.

Every car has issues. Yes, sometimes manufacturers will not fix these issues because of reasons that may or may not have been fully disclosed on the internet. Does a handful of cars out of thousands and thousands produced make a trend? NO.

Cool story, bro.

only one way to settle this. Import convert Vs m4a1mustang in a drag race using their own cars.:p

Sibze 12-23-2010 12:00 PM

How about this? Mustang and I will drag race our own car's and I will drag import behind my car?

Cool?

Sibze 12-23-2010 12:00 PM

Maybe all my warranty issues will help his skin

Maybe my car will overheat and I won't even be able to move!!!

shadoquad 12-23-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863818)
OK, so there are a few cases on the internet that we don't have all the facts for and somehow we can extrapolate from that that it's somehow a bad buying choice?

If one was to do this, to just assume based on a handful of forum threads, then they wouldn't consider a Z, either. There have been threads in here about, "I ragged my car for 14k miles with no oil change, then it broke down, now the stealership won't honor the warranty." Pretty sure that pops up everywhere. Pretty sure that all makes and models have a number of lemons that come right off the truck that way, too.

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 863834)
If one was to do this, to just assume based on a handful of forum threads, then they wouldn't consider a Z, either. There have been threads in here about, "I ragged my car for 14k miles with no oil change, then it broke down, now the stealership won't honor the warranty." Pretty sure that pops up everywhere. Pretty sure that all makes and models have a number of lemons that come right off the truck that way, too.

Yeah, really. Apparently ImportConvert is a member of every internet car forum known to man.

But you know what they say... jack of all trades... master of none. :icon17:

Sibze 12-23-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 863834)
If one was to do this, to just assume based on a handful of forum threads, then they wouldn't consider a Z, either. There have been threads in here about, "I ragged my car for 14k miles with no oil change, then it broke down, now the stealership won't honor the warranty." Pretty sure that pops up everywhere. Pretty sure that all makes and models have a number of lemons that come right off the truck that way, too.

yo but that's just not normal. ALL CAR SHOULD BE PERFECT!

shadoquad 12-23-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 863827)
only one way to settle this. Import convert Vs m4a1mustang in drag.:p

:ugh2: I don't know if I'm with you on this, Jeff. But I guess I'm willing to experiment.

Sibze 12-23-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 863843)
:ugh2: I don't know if I'm with you on this, Jeff. But I guess I'm willing to experiment.

I'm with you Shado!

phelan 12-23-2010 12:11 PM

whoa whoa, i really, really don't want to see shado in drag.

hell, i don't want to see shado period.

shadoquad 12-23-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 863852)
whoa whoa, i really, really don't want to see shado in drag.

hell, i don't want to see shado period.

:forever alone: :(

Sibze 12-23-2010 12:14 PM

I still love you Shado. Your not a pillow, Phelan will never love you

ClemsonWill 12-23-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863818)
OK, so there are a few cases on the internet that we don't have all the facts for and somehow we can extrapolate from that that it's somehow a bad buying choice? I guess that's ImportConvert logic for you. After all, that's how you determined you didn't like the 370. But instead of just moving on and looking for a new car to buy, you stick around to constantly remind us of it's shortcomings and why other cars are better because you somehow have an endless knowledge of (or at least opinions on) every single car ever made from 1900 onwards.

Every car has issues. Yes, sometimes manufacturers will not fix these issues because of reasons that may or may not have been fully disclosed on the internet. Does a handful of cars out of thousands and thousands produced make a trend? NO.

Cool story, bro.

ImportConvert = :owned: by Mustang Steve

EazyD 12-23-2010 12:41 PM

back on topic... :pics:

kgreen 12-23-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 863519)
Don't get too whipped up with a new car until you know it's totaled. Otherwise it's a whole repeat cycle of death, dying, and bereavement to get over the bad news that the car is still yours. Assume it's yours and you're going to have it repaired...then anything else is just gravy. A neighbor advised me recently that I should have hit the sides and back of the car before the appraiser came out. Totaling a car means you either have to hit the living $hit out of one side or just moderately bang up a couple sides.

yup u are right that should have been my mindset. Just call the claims dept. and they sent the check today. Kinda bittersweet but oh well

Jeffblue 12-23-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kgreen (Post 864080)
yup u are right that should have been my mindset. Just call the claims dept. and they sent the check today. Kinda bittersweet but oh well

so its not totaled?


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