They are removing VDC from all 2012 models! :eek:

Point of a Z is to have a simple, reliable, affordable yet exciting, enjoyable, sports car. This is why 350s and 370 have been successful.

I doubt Nissan would change their philosophy regarding the Z.

well, they need to, the competition has changed drastically around them....we are getting left behind

"we're" not. I have a great and fun little sports car, no matter what other people drive.

How so?
Z is competing and performing better than cars like the Porsche Boxter, that cost nearly 50% more.

i can see a slight bump in HP, but not much else...wheels maybe...

^^I agree with that. I think Nissan will stay true to the Z's lineage and continue producing a car based off the simple idea of performance at a low price. I mean isn't that what the Z has always stood for?

no one said its not a fun car, but there is always room for improvement...ALWAYS...nissan does not need to get complacent with the 370

Not much will change. The 350Z had minor tweaks here and there. Same as the Nissan Titan that is nearly identical to when it was released back in 2004. I was dreaming that they'd produce a 380Z and then you'd be able to bolt on a GTR turbo setup fairly easily but that won't happen. I bet you won't see anything except a wheel design change for 2012..... Possibly a new bumper. That's all.

I'd have the biggest hard on if they changed the Nismo to a twin turbo and raised sticker price just $3k.

well for one, muscle cars are starting to handle as well as the Z. Ive been a Z guy for years and handling is something that Z guys took great pride in, 2 power...

Yeah.. Definitely doubt any big bump in hp. If they gave it more power they'll lose sales to the GT-R. And definitely most times dealing with TT are gonna have problems. Nissan would be losing money keeping it all under warranty. Look at the muscle cars the more hp the more problems (in some cases?).

Well muscle car have traditionally been more powerful, but they're heavier as well and don't handle nearly as good.

Also the question is, those high power and somewhat exclusive muscle cars, selling? I don't know this and I would be interested in looking at the data if someone can offer any.

If this happens, you can expect the price tag to jump at least $10,000.

Apparently the new Camaro has been selling as fast as they can get to the dealership. I also doubt the Mustang sales are anywhere as low as the Z. They're selling.

If they make the Z more competitive on the street with the pony cars I bet the sales would increase. Who would complain about more power?

Actually, I heard Camaro sales slowed down when the new Stang came out. Anyone have the sales figs?

Even then, the v6 version of both of those cars outsell the muscly v8s