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ThoriumHotdog 11-29-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 827550)
I was so excited to see the stigs track time for the z compared to the evo. They clearly said they would test every new car they got on the track, yet they put no time up for the z. That really pissed me off.

I bet the put up a time next week but fail to show the lap.

shadoquad 11-29-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 826978)
I agree with you on the hosts thing, with the exception of Tanner - he certainly knows cars and how to drive them. The other two - well, I don't see what they bring to the table.

The ":iagree:" emote does not strongly enough convey my concurrence to this statement.

fairladyZ34 11-29-2010 09:26 PM

i like that the photographic aspects are the same, i like the shots and stuff. the editing or what its technically called

toxik 11-29-2010 09:29 PM

you guys complain way too much.

I liked the show, because I'm sick of seeing shows about Hot Rods and muscle cars on Speed Channel. At least this show features cars I like, and it's not even that bad...

shadoquad 11-29-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 827720)
you guys complain way too much.

I liked the show, because I'm sick of seeing shows about Hot Rods and muscle cars on Speed Channel. At least this show features cars I like, and it's not even that bad...

It's like when the U.S. started its version of "The Office". I cannot enjoy it, because the original British version was better and more intelligently written. Same thing here. It's an imitator. Coming fresh to it, it's not so bad.

crash1369 11-29-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 827734)
It's like when the U.S. started its version of "The Office". I cannot enjoy it, because the original British version was better and more intelligently written. Same thing here. It's an imitator. Coming fresh to it, it's not so bad.

:iagree: Admittedly i have been thinking that the whole time, everything they do (or have done so far at least, and have said they will be doing) is just a copy of the others and done poorly in comparison. Now if I didn't know that already then US version would seem better, although all the previously mentioned complaints still stand. A good host can make crapping in shoe box watchable, if not entertaining, while someone with no character or creativity can make even the most riveting topic an intolerable experience to suffer through.

toxik 11-29-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 827734)
It's like when the U.S. started its version of "The Office". I cannot enjoy it, because the original British version was better and more intelligently written. Same thing here. It's an imitator. Coming fresh to it, it's not so bad.

Yeah, but what can you do. Not naming it Top Gear, would make it seem like a cheap American Rip-Off. But having TG brand in the title casts a big shadow.

Still, I've been enjoying the show. I can understand the negative points people bring up, but it's really not that bad of a show lol. I enjoyed the whole EP, even the drift challange....

shadoquad 11-29-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik (Post 827789)
Yeah, but what can you do. Not naming it Top Gear, would make it seem like a cheap American Rip-Off. But having TG brand in the title casts a big shadow.

Still, I've been enjoying the show. I can understand the negative points people bring up, but it's really not that bad of a show lol. I enjoyed the whole EP, even the drift challange....

Well, it is still very new, so maybe the hosts will develop a more cohesive chemistry over the first season or two, and maybe they'll strike out with some original bits. I'm willing to give it a chance.

spearfish25 11-29-2010 10:02 PM

Does anyone else think that they don't portray the 'feel' of the cars they are reviewing? Something is missing in the video footage that makes me not take anything away from their segment about the cars. I feel like it's just video clip after clip of cars wooshing by. They miss the clips of the engine revving up in neutral, the clip of the car peeling away...things they capture in UK TG. With the Astons, I felt like I was watching dust trails more often than the cars. I actually fast forwarded most of this past episode. Segments are boring me...something is missing.

travisjb 11-29-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 827844)
Does anyone else think that they don't portray the 'feel' of the cars they are reviewing? Something is missing in the video footage that makes me not take anything away from their segment about the cars. I feel like it's just video clip after clip of cars wooshing by. They miss the clips of the engine revving up in neutral, the clip of the car peeling away...things they capture in UK TG. With the Astons, I felt like I was watching dust trails more often than the cars. I actually fast forwarded most of this past episode. Segments are boring me...something is missing.

I do agree... not sure if it is the video or the fact that they don't capture the car well in the way that they describe it... jeremy has a way of capturing the key points about a car in 5-6 statements, and what he says is connected to the video... when he talks about the transmission not working in the ISF, you can see it trying to shift and hear it beeping (by the way, this was wrong! they forgot to put it in manual shift mode :))

Re hosts... the FLD host would have been good IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFlBYI0UWRw

Hey, what do you guys think about a 'tuner' segment in the show? there's such a big aftermarket crowd in the U.S. - I'm thinking they should pick a car a week to showcase, maybe starting with our resident 1,000 hp build! lol

nurseryboy 11-29-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 827868)
jeremy has a way of capturing the key points about a car in 5-6 statements

Riiiiiight. This statement made me laugh. I'm not picking on you, but when I read that, I started thinking of all the things Jeremy has said over the years and had to chuckle. A few examples:

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On the Porsche Boxster: "It couldn't pull a greased stick out of a pig's bottom."

"Koenigsegg are saying that the CCX is more comfortable. More comfortable than what... being stabbed?"

"Owning a TVR in the past was like owning a bear. I mean it was great, until it pulled your head off, which it would."

On the Renault Clio V6: "I think the problem is that it's French. It's a surrendermonkey."

On the Porsche Cayenne: "I've seen gangrenous wounds better looking than this!"

"A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster."

On the Mercedes CLS55 AMG: "It sounds like Barry White eating wasps."
Haha. I actually laughed some while reading through them.. But, as you can see, Jeremy is often far from factual (and even accurate) with his statements. We love him dearly, but lest we forget he doesn't like the Z... because it used to be a Datsun.

I think the big difference between the two shows right now is that the UK guys have 15 seasons under their belts, and all the experience (and improved humor) that comes along with it (not to mention their experience outside of TG), whereas the US guys have a measly 2 episodes under their belts, and not a whole lot of driving experience aside from Tanner. Give them 15 seasons, though, and I guarantee you they'll be much better.

Like someone said before, though, it's entertainment! These aren't supposed to be factual, realistic shows. Not everyone in the US is a redneck (s09e03), who would do all that to a Toyota Hilux (s03e05 and s03e06), and geeze, they've done a few episodes with racing a car vs people down a mountain (s04e09, s05e08, s15e05). Heck, Jeremy takes a Jaguar down a ski slope in the season 4 one! How is that any more factual or realistic than taking an Evo down?

I love the UK one, don't get me wrong. I think it's much better than the US one at this point, but again, they have 8 years and like > 120 episodes up on the US guys. Give it some time, and enjoy watching guys do crazy stuff with cars we'll never be able to afford!

travisjb 11-29-2010 11:17 PM

lol, didn't say he was factual, said he has a way of "capturing the key points"... every car design has compromises and he finds them, and of course he does seem to hold strong to his bias against all things japan

appreciate the quotes! hilarious!

kevr6 11-29-2010 11:46 PM

Fifth Gear Rules! ;)

ThoriumHotdog 11-30-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 827844)
Does anyone else think that they don't portray the 'feel' of the cars they are reviewing? Something is missing in the video footage that makes me not take anything away from their segment about the cars. I feel like it's just video clip after clip of cars wooshing by. They miss the clips of the engine revving up in neutral, the clip of the car peeling away...things they capture in UK TG. With the Astons, I felt like I was watching dust trails more often than the cars. I actually fast forwarded most of this past episode. Segments are boring me...something is missing.

Same. I skipped the entire "big stars little cars" nonsense. I couldn't seem to care even though I enjoy the UK version very much.

ThoriumHotdog 11-30-2010 12:09 AM

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On the Porsche Boxster: "It couldn't pull a greased stick out of a pig's bottom."

"Koenigsegg are saying that the CCX is more comfortable. More comfortable than what... being stabbed?"

"Owning a TVR in the past was like owning a bear. I mean it was great, until it pulled your head off, which it would."

On the Renault Clio V6: "I think the problem is that it's French. It's a surrendermonkey."

On the Porsche Cayenne: "I've seen gangrenous wounds better looking than this!"

"A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens, and you go faster."

On the Mercedes CLS55 AMG: "It sounds like Barry White eating wasps."

If only the US hosts could come up with that type of insanity. ;)


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