Um. Yes there were and still are. I'm not trying to diminish your friends accomplishment but it's not that uncommon now and there were 10 second Hondas rolling the streets. We just tore my turbo CRX down and when I buy my 370z we're going to build the crx up to those numbers.

Yes, I could modify the Z, but I would like to maintain my warranty. I want a full warranty and re-sale.

Yes, I see what is going on on the 'vette forum as well.

I digress, you know more about the scene than I do. I was impressed with a 706whp civic that had a clutch as civil as a stock one that I could drive like it was OEM.

I wouldn't say that. I just know more about my local scene. Or I did before I left TX for a while. :)

10.9@139 with the car having a couple of issues (50% and 70% leak-down in 2 cylinders, and a slipping clutch, and no traction, all since remedied) and a 300# man driving still wasn't shabby for a DD'ed civic 2-3 years ago.

I ran a mile in 5:50 once

Impressive. My mile times have always sucked. My stride sucks and beats me up, etc. so I just stopped that kind of stuff so I don't fall apart when I'm 40.

wtf is this shiet? :rolleyes:

your f-body can't do anything but go in a straight line. trans am has better steering feed back? do me a favor, pass that dutch.

I felt more pavement surface feedback through the wheel of the WS6. My old F-body was a straight-line machine for sure, though. Not saying it turned better.

The Z's steering was precise, well-weighted, and accurate. It just felt more insulated. I was less sure of the pavement I was rolling across, based on the feel from the steering-wheel. Maybe that's a good/refined thing? Either way, just an observation.

The clutch on the other hand, I could only learn to live with. Never love. It was just to light and vague for my taste. Of course, that is personal too. My first manual was a 5.0 GT with 4.10's, cam, heads, full bolt-ons and a TKO500 with a King Cobra cable-operated clutch, and it had VERY good feed-back. I loved that clutch...and that's about all about that car I loved except the sound, lol.

Most of the drive-by-wire cars I've driven felt disconnected from the road. I wonder how much of a shock it's going to be coming from a car with no power steering the Z. ;)

I have not driven the Z extensively, but MOST of the complaints I hear about drive-by-wire come from throttle-lag. I didn't experience that with the Z. The Z felt connected, the steering-wheel just didn't communicate it, the rest of the car did. The steering-wheel seemed focused on talking to the tires instead of listening to them. You would think I could have related to that, but no. I have not heard any complaints about the GT500's EPAS after the re-calibration offered mid-model. Those guys are too worried about the rear-ends groaning in slow corners and their transmissions not going into 2nd gear.

The Z's steering is slightly numb, but it still has better feedback than most cars. Definitely better than the C6 Corvettes I've driven and about even with my Sport-package Mustang (with sport mode engaged).

Of course, you will be tainted for life if you ever test drive something like a Cayman S. :icon17: That car (the base Cayman, anyway) is the 370's benchmark and, for the price, Nissan did a great job coming up with something that gives it an honest run for its money.

When I first was looking at a sports car I was looking closely at the 370, Cayman S, and Corvette C6.

The C6 had the power, but lacked refinement and an interior worthy of its price tag.

The Cayman S had a wonderful balance of power, incredible handling and feel, and quality. Unfortunately a new one cost more than a new C6, and a used one still cost more than a new 370Z.

The 370 had a great balance of power, handling, and feel with a great price tag to boot. Sure it wasn't as fast in a straight line as the Corvette, but it had a better feel and a higher quality interior, and no, it wasn't as refined and didn't have the feel as the Cayman S, but for $35k vs $40k used or $60-70k new, none of that really mattered to me anymore. :)

The 370 is a great car. I don't care what anyone says. If you like it, buy it. It WILL make you happy. Enjoy the thing for as long as it makes you smile. Owning a Z is great experience.

Why the bad blood toward the E46 M3? I like both cars a lot. One thing that you have to remember though is that the S54 in the E46 M3 is a 10 year old engine and it is making as much hp as the 370Z with a 3.2l.

Just saying.

so what..its not like in those 10 years incrementally the engines have progressed. Allot of the current bmw engines arent impressive, at all! infact the ones that are note worthy are assisted by turbos...and the new M3 is now a v8which by many accounts have been reported as a drivers race. there is no bad blood at all here

"just saying"

no regrets on getting the 370. had the 350 and the 370 is a major upgrade.
it is fast enough to get your xss into trouble on any public road...
i don't think the steering is numb in anyway but i don't track the car..
but on the curves i drive on the car sticks to the road like super glue...

but if you won't to keep a low profile and don't like people staring at you and asking you a hundred questions about your car then the 370 isn't for you..

ps........i'm at 12,000 and have only had to put a new gas cap on it...

no rattles,hatch was fixed under recall and car is as solid as the day i bought it...