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and as far as the solid axle comments give me a break!!! Granted a IRS set up will always out perform given the engineering behind it, but look at some

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and as far as the solid axle comments give me a break!!!

Granted a IRS set up will always out perform given the engineering behind it, but look at some track cars in say the American Iron league and other racing areas and tell me the solid rear axle is still terrible, I guarantee you will be surprised just how well a solid axle can perform given the right mods
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and as far as the solid axle comments give me a break!!!

Granted a IRS set up will always out perform given the engineering behind it, but look at some track cars in say the American Iron league and other racing areas and tell me the solid rear axle is still terrible, I guarantee you will be surprised just how well a solid axle can perform given the right mods
American Iron League??? steel workers or huh?? No I'm not surprised a solid rear axle isn't terrible...... but the point is this is a comparo and here are two cars, and for similar money (base+some option), one is far more compromised in it's design, producing far less capable on road behavior.

Who knows if the goal was to stay 'retro' or because Ford just cheaped out the car, but the bottom line is it's a compromised design no matter how fast it goes 0-60 or 0-100mph, when it comes to actually having to drive the car on other than a straight road (dragway), the difference is readily apparent, or so the story says.

Obviously the 'tang is what it is, with big discounts, a fairly decent wallet-friendly performance everyman's car.....and all optioned up or modded 3 ways from Sunday by a race shop, an original muscle car. Nevertheless it can't escape it's designers builtin DNA, which limits it's ultimate potential at birth....and the story readily shows that in so many ways.
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American Iron League??? steel workers or huh?? No I'm not surprised a solid rear axle isn't terrible...... but the point is this is a comparo and here are two cars, and for similar money (base+some option), one is far more compromised in it's design, producing far less capable on road behavior.

Who knows if the goal was to stay 'retro' or because Ford just cheaped out the car, but the bottom line is it's a compromised design no matter how fast it goes 0-60 or 0-100mph, when it comes to actually having to drive the car on other than a straight road (dragway), the difference is readily apparent, or so the story says.

Obviously the 'tang is what it is, with big discounts, a fairly decent wallet-friendly performance everyman's car.....and all optioned up or modded 3 ways from Sunday by a race shop, an original muscle car. Nevertheless it can't escape it's designers builtin DNA, which limits it's ultimate potential at birth....and the story readily shows that in so many ways.
Pardon me American Iron racing NASA's American Iron Racing - Home

I guess again the point I was trying to make is the way I see it the Z is made to be a sports car plain and simple and the mustang is made to be basically an any car meaning it can be used in many areas so it lacks in ever area as well. and as far as escaping its designers built in DNA is pretty far off considering what all you can do and change. The aftermarket for the mustang is incredible and you are only limited by budget and your imagination. You cant tell me that a stang that has been made into a full fledged drag car that runs 6's all day long is limited by its original DNA, or that a full out modified for racing (agent 47 http://www.agentfortyseven.com/home.htmland or griggs racing http://www.griggsracing.com/) that i wouldn't be surprised if it could out handle any Z car that was bought from a dealer then modified for the track is limited by its "original DNA"

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Having owed a 1973 Formula 400 Firebird, a 1976 50th Anniversary Edition (black/gold) TransAm, a 1979 Black/Gold Edition TransAm and a 2000 Camaro Z/28 (all purchased new); I’ve had a bit of experience with pony cars.

As such, I’ve always found it a bit odd that magazines insist on comparing cars like the Z to Mustangs and Camaros and such…despite their similarities, they are really very different animals and comparing them just seems like more of an excuse to write a magazine article that it is to do any serious look at the vehicles in question.

The new Camaro coming out, assuming it really does come out, should be a hell of a car…I may even buy one, but I just don’t see it as a vehicle that the Z should be compared to.

At least that’s my $0.02
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Having owed a 1973 Formula 400 Firebird, a 1976 50th Anniversary Edition (black/gold) TransAm, a 1979 Black/Gold Edition TransAm and a 2000 Camaro Z/28 (all purchased new); I’ve had a bit of experience with pony cars.

As such, I’ve always found it a bit odd that magazines insist on comparing cars like the Z to Mustangs and Camaros and such…despite their similarities, they are really very different animals and comparing them just seems like more of an excuse to write a magazine article that it is to do any serious look at the vehicles in question.

The new Camaro coming out, assuming it really does come out, should be a hell of a car…I may even buy one, but I just don’t see it as a vehicle that the Z should be compared to.

At least that’s my $0.02
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I guess again the point I was trying to make is the way I see it the Z is made to be a sports car plain and simple and the mustang is made to be basically an any car meaning it can be used in many areas so it lacks in ever area as well. and as far as escaping its designers built in DNA is pretty far off considering what all you can do and change. The aftermarket for the mustang is incredible and you are only limited by budget and your imagination. You cant tell me that a stang that has been made into a full fledged drag car that runs 6's all day long is limited by its original DNA, or that a full out modified for racing (agent 47 Agent 47 HOMEand or griggs racing Griggs Racing Products) that i wouldn't be surprised if it could out handle any Z car that was bought from a dealer then modified for the track is limited by its "original DNA"
Let's just stick to comparing the base cars. Once you get into modding, all bets are off.
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