Next Generation Z?
 

What do you guys want and what do you guys think Nissan will develop for the next generation of Z's in terms of the power and engine?

420z? Twin Turbo?

The v6 is currently pushing it's limit for power. 332HP for the regular Z and 350HP for the Nismo. Sure there is room for a bit more but according to history, motors get bigger or more cylinders and more power for every generation that goes by.

I am hoping Nissan either goes with a v8 or at least a twin turbo v6 that is 4.0L or more. If they do come out with a twin turbo setup, I may even trade in my Nismo for the next generation Nismo. That is if it looks nice.

twin turbo i doubt, buuuuuut will always be homeful for..... something pretty sweet would have to come out for me to ditch my 2010.

if they keep 6MT that would be nice.

It's probably going to 3.8L and I highly doubt it will be a TT. It was would be nice if if was! 380Z Twin Turbo!!!

Weren't the 300zx twin turbo cars? It is a possibility.

The 300ZX Z31/32 had Turbo versions yes. But that was the main reason they stopped producing the cars as there was a huge decline in sales (everyone wanted SUV's and 4 doors in the mid 90's. Now we have the economy so it's going to be hard. 370Z's arn't selling too well and I doubt a TT would increase sales. (I would upgrade in a heartbeat tho!) :ughdance:

The 300zx had twin turbo and a NA model, but the TT version put itself above the target price range Nissan targets.
For a new model, I would like to see a migration away from the VQ motor. Size I do not care about, but we need to be at around 370HP and 300TQ.

Seems like there is a flood of 300hp+ V6 cars hitting the market. I think it is inevitable that the Z declines some. But I do hope Nissan makes another generation.

I seriously doubt a V8. I think twin turbos might be an option. Look at Ford. They have a TT V6 setup in the SHO and it is fairly reasonably priced. Most likely they will slightly bump the displacement to 3.8L like TJlazer said.

i think they'd have an easier time marketing a turbo car than a v8. at this point, v8=automatically bad for the environment, gas guzzler (regardless of whether or not thats true). Turbos are becoming increasingly popular with the new diesel engines which have the whole "green" thing going for them. i see a twin turbo v6 fitting the Z a lot more in terms of character than a v8. plus, if it were to come with a factory turbo... that creates a lot of options for the aftermarket. keep in mind though, they don't want to eat away at the GTR. so they're probably gonna keep their distance in terms of power from the GTR.

Well, with the GT-R's power going up every year (and substantially for the next two years), I don't think they are going to need to worry about a TT Z eating into that market too much. A TT stock option would definitely keep me with a Z, other than that I might be in the market for something else when that time comes.

a twin turbo option would be the only reason i'd be even contemplating getting the new version of the Z. if they just ad some .1 liter engine displacement, and a token 15 horespower, no thanks, i'll keep mine.

twin turbo would be my bet.

simply because they can extract the power and then also have variable boost in there for efficiency.

turbo would give them the best power and still meet the fuel efficiency guidelines
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yep, plus having car that has boost out of the box greatly increases your options in terms of performance mods.

I'd bet on a mass produced, detuned version of the 3.8L twin turbo in the GT-R when the GT-R move "up" a notch in the future. The research and testing is already done and that will help reduce R&D costs. The car needs little or nothing in the handling department but is being assaulted in the power department on several fronts.

Yes...TURBOS!

With the 'going green' reality and strict emissions requirements coming into effect, expect the next gen Z to be smaller displacement with forced induction. While some manufacturers are coming out with hybrid performance systems, I think it's a long shot for the Z given the price-point.

The turbos were not the reason they stopped producing the cars! You said it yourself: SUV mania. It also killed the RX-7 and quite a few other sports cars.

I'd like to see a straight-six with FI

I'm hoping the next gen Z goes on a strict weight reduction diet using more lightweight materials. They should fine tune the driving characteristics for a more connected & lighter feel. Although the Z drives like its on rails around the bends, it "feels" heavy.

The V6 is almost a guarantee (might even have a Merc. engine) but the VQ is close to its limits. A new Nissan n/a V6 engine churning out close to the 400hp mark isn't impossible given the amount of time before a re-design. Electric motors might show up if the Leaf takes off, although probably limited to a boost type setup. I'm just hoping they refine the engine & transmission sounds. As much as I love the power the 370 has, the engine sound/noise at high rpm's sounds like a tin can filled with rocks & giant fan blowing in the back. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm the type that would rather listen to a good sounding engine than a pimped out stereo system any day of the week.

Price point is going to be the biggest hurdle. Keeping the price affordable while increasing performance & quality can make or break the Z legacy.

Curb weight - 3300lbs
Twin turbo 6 - 370hp/350ft-lb TQ
A proper mechanical LSD
Brake cooling vents
Oil coolers
Revised gauges
More space in the back (See Porsche Cayman)

I doubt this will ever happen, but I want to see a 400Z with a 4L V8 that revs to at least 8,500rpm and makes 380+ hp with a true dual clutch manual as an option.

Am I the only one that prefers supercharging?

From the factory I much prefer the TT. TT has more potential. But if I went FI with my Z I would probably get a GTM SC kit just because it is cheaper.

sc is nice but it wouldnt give the efficiency that a TT would give.

i could imagine a TT sport model that bypasses the turbo's for cruising/normal driving upping the mileage / efficiency. hrmm

How about the VK50VE out of the FX50? 390hp and that CUV sprints to 60 in 5 seconds. I don't see why that wouldn't at least match the Mustang 5.0 in terms of fuel economy. Trouble would be weight balance, push it as far back as possible and put the whole car on a diet. Would be a cool name too, 500Z!!!

weight distribution i dont think is a major issue. If they put a massive engine in the front they can move the whole transmission to the rear. From a physics perspective I like this better in terms of efficiency (less power loss)

I think nissan has just about gotten all there gonna get out of the v6
that being said not that they need to or won't to but to compete with the
mustangs and camaro's how about a good old american v8.

i'll think twice before buying another z if they only give lip service to the power train. you get use to certain sounds and the z still can sound bad xss
but i rode in a camaro ss the other day and damn that v8 sounded sweet.

Not sure where the VK50 is made but the VK56 in the Titan sounds sweet and it's built in Tennessee. I've seen some mad 350s and a G35 with a VK56 swapped in, makes for a good drift car.

I saw this article while I was researching the Z's before I bought mine.
I have no idea if it is true, but I know it's NOT what I want!

Report: Next-generation Nissan Z may get Mercedes powertrain - egmCarTech

There are rumors around the net on the same subject, and for the Infiniti line as well. However, it surely does not demonstrate any confidence in Nissan by Nissan itself that they cannot design for both emissions and performance if all this comes true. Scary.

3000 pounds

3.0 direct injected twin turbo V6 (400HP/400 torque)

dual clutch

400Z

A man can dream:driving:

If any of that is true then our generation may just hold it's value. I personally don't like the idea of being down graded to a smaller sized engine. The hybrid is a nice idea if they can still put out 350+ horsepower on the tap.

I think a turbo would make a peakier torque curve and help top end rather than low end torque.

The MR-2 SC had a magnetic clutch on the supercharger for good mileage and boost.

Well I didn't mean to imply it was the main and only reason. But it sure didn't help matters when the TT version cost 5 to 10K more than the NA varient...

My exact thoughts, great minds think alike :tup:

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Yes a man can dream, the 370z came out and it became true.:tup:
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It should be smaller and lighter. It would make it more fun to drive.

Weight reduction
Better LSD
Brake cooling ducts
Good oil cooler

At best I could see the Nismo take a V8 or TT, but I think the standard Z would stay with the VQ. Nissan is all about consistancy, and if they keep selling the way they do then they won't stray to far from what works.

I bet the next generation Z will either use bio-fuel or be fully electric :)

HAHA! :bowrofl:

Look at this electric sports car of today:

Go Electric | Tesla Motors

I actually heard that car has a ton of problems.