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3000 pounds

3.0 direct injected twin turbo V6 (400HP/400 torque)

dual clutch

400Z

A man can dream:driving:

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Originally Posted by WDRead (Post 723151)

I saw this article while I was researching the Z's before I bought mine.
I have no idea if it is true, but I know it's NOT what I want!

Report: Next-generation Nissan Z may get Mercedes powertrain - egmCarTech

If any of that is true then our generation may just hold it's value. I personally don't like the idea of being down graded to a smaller sized engine. The hybrid is a nice idea if they can still put out 350+ horsepower on the tap.

I think a turbo would make a peakier torque curve and help top end rather than low end torque.

The MR-2 SC had a magnetic clutch on the supercharger for good mileage and boost.

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 722715)

The turbos were not the reason they stopped producing the cars! You said it yourself: SUV mania. It also killed the RX-7 and quite a few other sports cars.

Well I didn't mean to imply it was the main and only reason. But it sure didn't help matters when the TT version cost 5 to 10K more than the NA varient...

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 722584)

I'd bet on a mass produced, detuned version of the 3.8L twin turbo in the GT-R when the GT-R move "up" a notch in the future. The research and testing is already done and that will help reduce R&D costs. The car needs little or nothing in the handling department but is being assaulted in the power department on several fronts.

My exact thoughts, great minds think alike :tup:

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Originally Posted by cmdjing (Post 723199)

3000 pounds

3.0 direct injected twin turbo V6 (400HP/400 torque)

dual clutch

400Z

A man can dream:driving:

:icon18:
Yes a man can dream, the 370z came out and it became true.:tup:
:driving:

It should be smaller and lighter. It would make it more fun to drive.

Weight reduction
Better LSD
Brake cooling ducts
Good oil cooler

At best I could see the Nismo take a V8 or TT, but I think the standard Z would stay with the VQ. Nissan is all about consistancy, and if they keep selling the way they do then they won't stray to far from what works.

I bet the next generation Z will either use bio-fuel or be fully electric :)

HAHA! :bowrofl:

Look at this electric sports car of today:

Go Electric | Tesla Motors

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Originally Posted by Holliday (Post 725173)

I actually heard that car has a ton of problems.

i think that it should run on Nitrous only. fill up with 18 gallons and you'll get where you're going before you leave

I like the rational of the detuned VR engine. It seems that the VQ has been maxed out. I don't know that much about the VR engine except that the TT version of it in the GTR is the only production version of that engine. I wonder what kind of power it produces without the TT setup. I wonder if it would be possible to put a non TT 4L VR engine in the next gen. Then it wouldn't really step on the GTR since there aren't any turbos. All that dreaming aside, I dont know enough about that engine to know if that could be a reality.

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 725318)

I actually heard that car has a ton of problems.

Me too! HAHA! But the fact of the matter is, it's 2010 and they already have this kind of technology knocking at the consumer door.

It won't be long before congress legalizes marijuana and we are driving hybrid and electric cars :rock:

Nissan won't be borrowing any of Mercedes engines, those are all rumors are heresay. The Daimler alliance is about sharing EV technologies, Daimler has no in house EV technology so they are going to utilize Nissans. Nissan also wants to maximize its production of its new battery technology to recoupe development costs and be considered the industry leader in EV production. Nissan produces more V6s at a cheaper price then Mercedes can, Nissans V6s are more potent, fuel efficient, and reliable. Nissans V6s have been class leading for many years now, no reason to "downgrade" to a Mercedes engine.

Nissan won't use the VR has its cost of production is to high(its partly hand built), the Z will continue to use a mass produced V6 similar to whats found in other future Nissan vehicles. The VR is also meant to be "special" in a way by only being found in the GTR, putting it in another vehicle would take away some of the uniqueness of Nissans supercar.

I would expect Nissan to adopt direct injection on their next generation V6s. They very well may continue to evolve the VQ line as it has largely been a success for Nissan both on the cost efficient side of things as well as the power/fuel consumption side. I don't for see displacement getting much if any larger for Nissans V6s as the CAFEs fuel economy standards are only getting stricter. Direct injection would help fuel economy and torque production without increasing displacement Nissan is likely to incorporate their "DIG-T" technology found in the new MR16DDT engine in the Juke. DIG-T stands for Direct Injected Gasoline Turbo-charged, Nissans new MR16DDT has proved that this technology is both fuel efficient, good for making power, and cost efficient. I'd expect to see displacement in the 3.0L-3.8L range with something similar to the DIG-T configuration.

They should allow us to tap the VVEL.