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6spd 09-07-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 711733)
to each his own. I have friends that spend money in ways I never would and they wouldnt spend money on things I do.

totally right, to each his own.

Lug 09-08-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 711185)
100lbs loss for every 0.5sec improvement... typically.

Actually a lot closer to .1 sec per 100 lbs in the power weight range.

Online calculator:

0-60 mph Calculator - 060calculator.com

WarmAndSCSI 09-08-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 712536)
Actually a lot closer to .1 sec per 100 lbs in the power weight range.

Online calculator:

0-60 mph Calculator - 060calculator.com

I think he was talking about quarter mile performance... which is certainly more relevant lol

Lug 09-08-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 712539)
I think he was talking about quarter mile performance... which is certainly more relevant lol

Not according to the title of the thread. :D Plus, the quarter mile number diff is also far closer to .1 than .5 sec. Here, try it for yourself.

1/4 Mile ET Calculator

WarmAndSCSI 09-08-2010 02:30 PM

This thread is asinine and retarded. /thread

cab83_750 09-08-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 712766)
This thread is asinine and retarded. /thread


:) :happydance:

For some of us, we would like to know what other benefits we get IN ADDITION TO additional horsepower.

6spd 09-08-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 712766)
This thread is asinine and retarded. /thread

i give this thread a one and her asinine!

WarmAndSCSI 09-08-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 713216)
:) :happydance:

For some of us, we would like to know what other benefits we get IN ADDITION TO additional horsepower.

Yes, and that's reasonable, except it's not exactly a deterministic outcome.

It's so unpredictable, that it's not even funny.

Point in case. My 550 WHP FWD piece of junk could only pull a 4.3 sec 0-60 in its prime, even with impeccable driving. It's hard to predict 0-60 performance.

Besides, if you actually line up two cars that run relatively disparate 0-60 times (let's say 5 sec 0-60 vs. 6 sec 0-60), the distance that separates them really isn't that great or even noticeable until you hit higher speeds.

6spd 09-08-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 713250)
Besides, if you actually line up two cars that run relatively disparate 0-60 times (let's say 5 sec 0-60 vs. 6 sec 0-60), the distance that separates them really isn't that great or even noticeable until you hit higher speeds.

absolutely. the difference, visually, between a civic and a civic si is minimal, just like the difference between a 370z and a gtr is minimal. only after a distance greater than that covered up to 60 mph will there be a distinct difference.

cab83_750 09-08-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 713250)
Yes, and that's reasonable, except it's not exactly a deterministic outcome.

It's so unpredictable, that it's not even funny.

Point in case. My 550 WHP FWD piece of junk could only pull a 4.3 sec 0-60 in its prime, even with impeccable driving. It's hard to predict 0-60 performance.

Besides, if you actually line up two cars that run relatively disparate 0-60 times (let's say 5 sec 0-60 vs. 6 sec 0-60), the distance that separates them really isn't that great or even noticeable until you hit higher speeds.

With all due respect, and I didn't mean to be funny:

Say I buy a bone stock Z, I put a twin turbo, raising the HP to say 500hp, with all $8000+ upgrades, what tangible and measurable benefits do I tell to justify my expenditures?

6spd 09-08-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 713316)
With all due respect, and I didn't mean to be funny:

Say I buy a bone stock Z, I put a twin turbo, raising the HP to say 500hp, with all $8000+ upgrades, what tangible and measurable benefits do I tell to justify my expenditures?

tangible, well, if you get a thrill out of racing/speed/acceleration/noise/etc than that is the "tangible" gain. There is little more than that really. Many do it for respect, many do it for pleasure or as a hobby. Only you can answer why you do it, or want to do it.

WarmAndSCSI 09-09-2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 713538)
tangible, well, if you get a thrill out of racing/speed/acceleration/noise/etc than that is the "tangible" gain. There is little more than that really. Many do it for respect, many do it for pleasure or as a hobby. Only you can answer why you do it, or want to do it.

x2

Personally, since I insist on working on and tuning my own cars exclusively, it is the sense of accomplishment after going from power level A to power level B on my own effort and skill alone. That's the only reason dyno numbers even matter to me (well, unless I happen to be setting a record :bowrofl:).

Track times are nice to track your progress as well. Definitely a good before and after, and they can definitely net you some bragging rights.

But the biggest component for me is the adrenaline-pumping experience that ensues when you press the loud pedal on your project car. And the noise... ah yes.

6spd 09-09-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 713656)
x2

Personally, since I insist on working on and tuning my own cars exclusively, it is the sense of accomplishment after going from power level A to power level B on my own effort and skill alone. That's the only reason dyno numbers even matter to me (well, unless I happen to be setting a record :bowrofl:).

Track times are nice to track your progress as well. Definitely a good before and after, and they can definitely net you some bragging rights.

But the biggest component for me is the adrenaline-pumping experience that ensues when you press the loud pedal on your project car. And the noise... ah yes.

the sound of my car amazes me every time i drive it, and i dont expect that to change anytime soon! thats one of the biggest reasons i mod my cars.

kenchan 09-09-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 712536)
Actually a lot closer to .1 sec per 100 lbs in the power weight range.

Online calculator:

0-60 mph Calculator - 060calculator.com

yah, i posted wrong. i meant to type 0.1sec per 100lbs... not 0.5sec.

200lbs is not going to net you 1full sec of improvement. lol that would be too easy for them. :icon17:

Lug 09-09-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 714547)
yah, i posted wrong. i meant to type 0.1sec per 100lbs... not 0.5sec.

200lbs is not going to net you 1full sec of improvement.

If it did, I'd finally have enough real motivation to shrink down my big fat ***!


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