2009 vs 2010?
 

After a bit of reading and researching on this site..

The only difference I seem to have found is that in the 09s, some had oil consumption issues.. while no 10s have had that problem (or at least yet)

So... what other differences (if any) are there in the 09s vs the 10s?

Any input is appreciated :)

You can find 09's for less money.

Yup... mainly reason I want a 09

but if the difference is say $1k.. then no not worth it.. but if the difference is 5k.. then yeah

Just wondering what is difference (Excluding price)

Heated mirrors and a cabin filter were added also. Yea for me :happydance:

I've noticed that the 09's seem to be more likely to be associated with complaints about driveability quirks and other foibles, such as the ECU whine.

I'd get an 09 if you can find one at a great price (someone is selling one on here for 25K!) and just go over every TSB carefully to see what applies to you and then get it taken care of as warranty work.

Good luck -- happy shopping!

I've had my 09 for over a year now and not a single problem, including the oil consumption.

Heated mirrors isn't much of a necessity here in SoCal haha


but cabin filter?

you mean reduces noise etc?

I actually test drive 2 today, 1 base 6MT and 1 base Auto.
They didn't have a Touring Sport (which is what I want), and they weren't allowing test drives on the 40th.

Love the clutch and gearbox, but I remember now why I got an auto in my 335i and sold my Boxster last year... I couldn't do this every day... haha

So auto for me.

and that one for 25k, if he was in LA, it'd have already been mine :)
Too bad it's not

I was extremely SHOCKED at how comfortable the ride quality was.
and noise wasn't bad either

I mean, my BMW stock vs the Z, the BMW is smoother, but I remember when I had my coilovers... thing was rough as hell.
Z was very smooth.

The dealer (best test drive ever tbh) took me to the canyons near by.

I wasn't going to fast, maybe about 60 or so during some of the turn, and it was pretty stable... but I could sense the back end wanting to really throw itself out...

Would this be fixed with the sport mode and the LSD?
Cause.. it's not that it didn't handle well.. the back end just seemed too loose tbh...
I have yet to drive a sport mode though...

I auto-x regularly and do my fair share of aggressive street driving/ canyon carving. I can tell you that the back end is very planted and I've only encountered it breaking loose when I was too liberal with the throttle going into a turn or coming out of it. The car seems to do really well if not on the throttle going into the turn. For example if you come up to a turn and don't slow down but don't hit the throttle either it will typically hold, with in reason. Now if you are going slower the 2nd time around but are on the throttle while going into the turn then the back end will want to come out. The same can be said if you get on the throttle too soon coming out of a turn. It's all about how you drive. The only car I have driven that does better in the corners than this one is the 911 S AWD.

All that being said I have a 6mt Sport. The sport version will basically have the benefit of the LSD and wider tires over the base version, thats about it.

Lastly, even when the car gets sideways its very easy to control. It's not like some other cars that once the back end comes out you're in trouble. One of the best things about this car is that it's so easy to drive hard.

I'll be honest, since it WAS a test drive, and I am 100% unfamiliar with the car, I wasn't too keen on pressing the gas much and drive like I 'usually' do.

Since I'm not used to the throttle response, I would rather ease through corner than accidentally press too much throttle and cause the back end to come out.

is the base 370Z like the 350 was, where it not only excludes the LSD, but also traction control?

I could definitely tell that with wider rear tires, it would have been a huge difference.
I can tell that in my 335i.. i went from 285s down to stock 255s now..

I've had mine since November '09 and not a single problem (other than "soft paint.") Couldn't really ask for anything more.

I bought my 09 with 4k miles on it, for 8 grand less than the original owner paid. I found 2 others for a similar price, with similar miles, within a 100 mile radius using the usual online locators. But, you have to be willing to make compromises if you want specific packages or colors. And region makes a difference I'm sure.

VDC is included in the base model. Sport package has bigger brakes, tires/wheels, VLSD, SynchoRev Match for 6MT.

2009 versus 2010 the Touring+Nav was updated with better screen (supposedly), USB support instead of 12V iPod only, took out CompactFlash reader, but greatly increased USB hard drive capability (2000 songs versus 512 on CF) but I just got a 80GB iPod from eBay and have no problems in the 2009.

Also rumors of running change to air extractors to quiet cabin, and to engine to prevent excessive oil consumption (which only effects a few 2009). You can add the air filter to the 2009 easily if you want - it has the slot in the ventilation.

^^^ Here's good info. Hopefully that air extractor fix will be an easy one. *crosses fingers*

I'm still wondering why I need heated mirrors in SoCal... and why Nissan didn't put those cooling seats in the coupe either... :confused:

Test drove a roadster since the dealer didn't have a coupe outside, and those seats were nice, but they are different from the coupe seats.

Agree though, would like to have that option. Maybe someone makes a tiny electric A/C?

No..........I mean cab air filter for your A/C and heating system to keep pollen and other crap out of the car. I can also say a difference (at least on mine) was when changing the shift knob out, others had ruined there stock knob. Mine was easy to take off by hand.

I am hoping the same goes for the emphasis "demon Bolt" on the CAT's. They also got rid of yellow I believe and added the black cherry for 2010.

Cabin filters kick arse. I never owned a car with one until I got my 2002 Infiniti G20, and I will never own another car without one.

You know that "dust" you always have to wipe off the dash every few weeks? yeah. I don't get that anymore in this car. Even after armor-alling it ( usually attracts dust like crazy), it is just shiny. No dust.

Cabin filter FTW!

What EXACTLY was changed '10 vs. '09 to prevent oil consumption?

hmm. so the 09s do NOT have the cabin air filter....

Anyway to have it installed on the 09s with minimal cost/under warranty?

Could someone claim some type of health thing? Like it's hard to breathe etc? (I have no experience with Nissan dealers, but BMW tends to go beyond expectations [at times])

Holliday, when you mention the shift knob.. are you referring to an Auto or a Manual?
I do think the auto shift knob is a bit... plain looking lol.

I've seen some 370z where they put a manual type boot for the Auto

Anyone know more about this?
A dealer in Vegas is selling a used one with it (as well as a Stillen intake). I like that one.. but priced too high for the miles and options..

I wouldn't want yellow, nor do I like black cherry, so not really relative to my case there.


How different are the roadster seats versus the coupe ones?

A dealer told me their 09 coupe HAS vented seats... (it's fully loaded)
Were they lying? (they're too far for me to just go 'check out')


When you mention a better screen... you mean resolution/clarity? Or functionality?
How easy/hard is it to install an aftermarket unit?
I remember it was really easy in my friends 350z

And when you say USB support.. you mean plug a USE drive (say a 16gb one) and have it play music direct from there?

For a 09 with nav, it has a 9gb HDD right? you load music through a USB or through CDs/DVDs? I would assume USB...

Thank you everyone for all your input and help; I like this forum much better than the other ones I've been on (Nagtroc is great too)

There's a thread in the audio section that describes this. They clearly confirmed that this works, i.e. you plug in your USB stick with your MP3 music and the MP3s play from there with the info displayed on the Z's screen. BUT you have to make sure that you format your USB in FAT32 and not NTFS. :tiphat:

I don't think the dealership is telling you the truth when they claim having a coupé with cooled seats, it's clearly only the convertible that has this option. I highly doubt they installed the convertible's seats in the coupé... they sometimes do talk through their arses ;).

I am referring to the 6MT. I have seen people add shift boots to G35's before (that is what I used to have). I have not seen any 370Z members do this yet but I am sure you can do it with some ingenuity :tup:

I see.

Well, am I right that you can use a USB to transfer music onto the built in HDD? on the 09s
I ask because I don't think I'll be getting a 2010

Bare in mind that I don't have my Z yet, I'm getting mine in September/October so I haven't tried first hand but from what I read on the forum you cannot transfer your MP3s from the USB key straight to the Z's HDD box (copyright protection?). You can only rip from CD's ... Also the USB port itself is only available on the 2010 model not the 2009. But if you're asking if you can transfer your music from and Ipod to your Z's HDD, then I believe you can't, this is true of the 2009 or the 2010 model.

Other people can correct me if I'm wrong but that's my understanding from researching the question. All info is available if you use the search option of this forum. :tiphat:

It is easy to install, would cost the same as replacement air filter maintenance on a 2010 or you could do it yourself.

The roadster seats have a cooling unit built into the back of the seat - there was a thread about trying to swap, but I think it was determined too hard. My memory says they are different from the Touring seats in other ways, but I can't find a reference.

The seats are perforated leather, so you could call that vented, but there is no active cooling in the coupe.

I don't believe the functionality is significantly different - I glanced over the 2009 and 2010 Nav manuals, but they got way too boring to compare actual details.

Here's is a review of the 2010, but a lot of the features are in the 2009.
YouTube - 2010 Nissan 370Z Navigation

Here is a list of 2010 enhancements:
I forgot the A2DP support for bluetooth streaming audio.

The 2009 and 2010 have the same 9.3GB MusicBox functionality with onboard GraceNote database. Sadly you can only load music by playing regular audio CDs which are then compressed onto the hard drive by the system. MP3 CDs, and other media (CF or USB HD) can not be loaded. I guess Audio DVDs would work as well.

However, if your album is not in GraceNote, you can use a PC and a CF (2009) or USB HD (2010) to transfer album information and load onto your PC. Also, you can manually edit in the car.

Your most welcome ;)

The 2010 upgrades to Nav/Audio were my second biggest concern when getting a 2009 (the oil consumption was first), but as long as the Nissan backup camera can be made to work, I am fine with the features in the 2009. With my eBay 80GB iPod, access to all my music is quick and easy and updating just requires a PC sync. I would like 4x resolution, but I can always use my iPad Nav, and bluetooth streaming would be nice for Pandora/Internet radio, but my city is Edge right now, so I don't use them anyway.

If you have an iPhone or iPod Touch, a Scosche PassPort or something similar will charge your device and let you access your music on the 2009 without a problem.

THANK YOU SOO SOO SOOO MUCH


So you said we need to use CDs to transfer music on the HDD
Alright cool.
But then you said use the CF or USB (2010) for the album info?

The backup is only on the 2011s right?
How much do you think it'll cost to have it on a 09 (or a 2010)

Thanks again :)

GraceNote album info is built in to the MusicBox, but it doesn't contain newer albums, so there is an option to get missing information. Older albums should be recognized.

No idea on the camera cost.

my '09 has heated mirrors, but our models are different then the US ones, so not sure if that comes in or not.

No heated mirrors on US 2009, added to 2010.

So...who is to say the 2010's don't consume oil too?

There was never any follow-up, but this is a sample post:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...tml#post669072

I would like to see more than this. Dealerships lie. I want a spec announcement from Nissan or a different part-number or something to back this up. Or maybe NO 2010's using oil reported or something. I dunno, I don't buy things at face value.

the 2009 has 2,009 horsepower and the 2010 has 2,010 horsepower. or was that the top speed....? i forget, its one of those though.