the next gen z

nismo42 · 08-27-2010, 10:23 AM

I know most of this is old news by now, but still a decent read...to be honest im a little bit worried for the future of the car.

Nissan's Next Z at Powertrain Crossroads

spearfish25 · 08-27-2010, 10:42 AM

If they plan to drop power like that, they better figure out how to shave weight off the Z. Our cars are fat pigs.

Jordo! · 08-27-2010, 10:57 AM

Hmm. They could possibly go the FT-86 route and get the weight down to sub 3K lbs or they could bring a turbo into the equation I suppose...

Actually, a diesel-hybrid motor + turbo could make great power and have great gas mileage. Tuned right, boost could come on late (preserving MPG under normal driving) and the car would still feel torquey thanks to the electric motor doing the lowspeed grunt work.

antman22 · 08-27-2010, 10:59 AM

amg 6.3L v8 please. that's really the only one i want in the Z.

Jordo! · 08-27-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by antman22

amg 6.3L v8 please. that's really the only one i want in the Z.

That would be badass too

ClemsonWill · 08-27-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

That would be badass too

I just drove a C63 the other day. Very nice car!

I'm not feeling the hybrid turbo idea though.

nismo42 · 08-27-2010, 11:59 AM

in terms of power i kinda feel like the z is stuck...If they add a decent amount of power to comepete with the new 5.0 and other cars, there is only so much they can do..think about it..if the z came with 400 or so hp who would buy a gtr...in gtr news i saw that the refresh is coming in 2012...500hp and other new things.

FricFrac · 08-27-2010, 12:13 PM

I predict the VQ38TT will trickle down from the GT-R to the Z..... you heard it here first :P

Cmike2780 · 08-27-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I predict the VQ38TT will trickle down from the GT-R to the Z..... you heard it here first :P

I like that idea better. Maybe they bump the GTR with a V8. With no plans for changes to the Z until 2014 or later, it certainly seems possible. Althogh an NA variant is more likely.

Lug · 08-27-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I predict the VQ38TT will trickle down from the GT-R to the Z..... you heard it here first :P

This would be ideal. They will want to move the GTR up the ladder to keep it's dominance anyway. You know Porsche is gunning for them and the 3.8 work is already done. Detuning a bit and mass producing will bring costs down. A turbo and non-turbo model will let them hit price targets.

OrderXsoL · 08-27-2010, 03:44 PM

Merc's 3.5? Hell no. Why not BMW's turbocharged 3.0? :P

fullmonty · 08-27-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrderXsoL

Merc's 3.5? Hell no. Why not BMW's turbocharged 3.0? :P

Because Nissan doesn't have an association to BMW?

antman22 · 08-27-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OrderXsoL

Merc's 3.5? Hell no. Why not BMW's turbocharged 3.0? :P

because they dont want a flood of people coming in to get their fuel pump and injectors replaced once a year under warranty lol.

daleks · 08-27-2010, 04:29 PM

V8's and TT's? Yeah, I don't think so. We're in the second malaise era if you hadn't noticed. HP won't increase unless MPG increases accordingly. CAFE requirements are becoming loftier and will override the incredible HP advances (engine efficiency) we've seen in recent (10-15) years. I suspect we'll see cars with better power-to-weight ratios though as more money is put into materials rather than grunt.

Lug · 08-28-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by daleks

V8's and TT's? Yeah, I don't think so. We're in the second malaise era if you hadn't noticed. HP won't increase unless MPG increases accordingly. CAFE requirements are becoming loftier and will override the incredible HP advances (engine efficiency) we've seen in recent (10-15) years. I suspect we'll see cars with better power-to-weight ratios though as more money is put into materials rather than grunt.

Nissan has done TT's in the Z before and if we are in a second malaise era, none bothered to tell Nissan, Ford, Chevy, Chysler, BMW, or many other companies currently push the most HP in their history on mid model sports cars.

08-27-2010, 10:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
nismo42 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennesse Posts: 74 Drives: 2010 370z 40th Rep Power: 14	the next gen z I know most of this is old news by now, but still a decent read...to be honest im a little bit worried for the future of the car. Nissan's Next Z at Powertrain Crossroads __________________ 2010 40th.

08-27-2010, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	If they plan to drop power like that, they better figure out how to shave weight off the Z. Our cars are fat pigs. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Hmm. They could possibly go the FT-86 route and get the weight down to sub 3K lbs or they could bring a turbo into the equation I suppose... Actually, a diesel-hybrid motor + turbo could make great power and have great gas mileage. Tuned right, boost could come on late (preserving MPG under normal driving) and the car would still feel torquey thanks to the electric motor doing the lowspeed grunt work. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

08-27-2010, 11:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
nismo42 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tennesse Posts: 74 Drives: 2010 370z 40th Rep Power: 14	in terms of power i kinda feel like the z is stuck...If they add a decent amount of power to comepete with the new 5.0 and other cars, there is only so much they can do..think about it..if the z came with 400 or so hp who would buy a gtr...in gtr news i saw that the refresh is coming in 2012...500hp and other new things. __________________ 2010 40th.

08-27-2010, 12:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 228	I predict the VQ38TT will trickle down from the GT-R to the Z..... you heard it here first :P __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

08-27-2010, 10:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	amg 6.3L v8 please. that's really the only one i want in the Z.

08-27-2010, 03:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
OrderXsoL Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: PR Posts: 3 Drives: Bugatti Veyron W16 Rep Power: 14	Merc's 3.5? Hell no. Why not BMW's turbocharged 3.0? :P

08-27-2010, 04:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
daleks Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 424 Drives: 2011 Evo X MR Rep Power: 15	V8's and TT's? Yeah, I don't think so. We're in the second malaise era if you hadn't noticed. HP won't increase unless MPG increases accordingly. CAFE requirements are becoming loftier and will override the incredible HP advances (engine efficiency) we've seen in recent (10-15) years. I suspect we'll see cars with better power-to-weight ratios though as more money is put into materials rather than grunt.