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the_student 07-26-2010 04:51 PM

Just another thought...

Have you checked your oil level?

The last time my oil temps were acting weird, I checked my oil and it was low. The less oil you have, harder it is for it to cool down.

WarmAndSCSI 07-26-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 644959)
Nissan put a throttle limiter in at 280 because they think you may get excessive bearing wear at 300. If Nissan thinks your car is fine at 260, I don't know that anyone here has the technical know how and access to Nissan data to really be able to refute that. Remember, the 280 limit is just a precaution, not an engine failure.

That's fine and dandy, but even Nissan cannot predict what will happen if you're pushing oil temp that high on X, Y, or Z oil. Different oils have vastly different protection levels at a given temperature.

I have to say, 260-280 is very high for a Group II-based oil (conventional). Those kinds of sustained oil temperatures are the reason we have synthetic oil available anyway.

After looking at UOA reports on Nissan Ester Oil on normal change intervals, it would be kind of scary to push 260-280 degrees on an oil with relatively low viscosity at temperature.

That said, 260 degrees is nothing for an excellent Group IV or V-based true synthetic oil. Using a good oil will net you some peace of mind, at the least.

flashburn 07-26-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the_student (Post 645324)
Just another thought...

Have you checked your oil level?

The last time my oil temps were acting weird, I checked my oil and it was low. The less oil you have, harder it is for it to cool down.

:shakes head: How about the first reply? And like 10 others. :rofl2:

the_student 07-26-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 645327)
:shakes head: How about the first reply? And like 10 others. :rofl2:

Hahahaha...damn I only read the first page and not well. I didnt notice the three pages. FAIL

facepalm to myself lol

chuckd05 07-26-2010 05:09 PM

i hit 160 at about 105 degrees cruising down a highway at about 60-80 mph on average... pretty ridiculous...

Oil Cooler is coming soon...

whats odd is I just put in penzoil my last oil change and I swear it runs hotter than royal purple did, and i swear ester ran the coolest but it wasnt summer time when I had the ester...

Next change will be redline and than I will make my mind up on what I am going to use from that point foward.

Ztoon 07-26-2010 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=antman22;645316]in my professional opinion, i think the high temp was God's way of telling you to turn around and avoid the Justin Bieber concert.

:icon18: Amen to that

TamZ 07-26-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by antman22 (Post 645316)
in my professional opinion, i think the high temp was God's way of telling you to turn around and avoid the Justin Bieber concert.

That thought did cross my mind..lol

Cjanik 07-26-2010 06:37 PM

I live in Vegas,

i drive 8 miles to work and home everyday. in the morning its not bad, but in the day time, its about 114 outside and my car gets to 220-240 just in daily traffic inside of the 8 mile drive.

with that said, i did buy an oil cooler. i have not seen my car go above 200 in daily traffic and 220 when pushing it.

I'd recommend if you like Vegas trips in your vehicle, to get an oil cooler. I seem to think there's a lack of air movement under the car due to the cover, to keep the oil from going up too high. that and the engineering wasn't good enough!
some of my highest temp's came from freeway driving, about a 15 mile freeway drive put me at 240 @ 75mph.

sonic370 07-26-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz (Post 644803)
Most cars don't have an oil temp gauge and now we know why. I bet most cars' oil temps get very high from time to time but because there is no gauge we are fat dumb and happy.

I predict Nissan pulls the oil temp gauge in future revisions. lol.

i'm starting to think nissan put the oil temp gauge there because they knew
there could be issues with oil temps in these cars. its a different kind of heat here in texas but between 90 to 100 its always 210 to 220. at 240 i start to worry.

sonic370 07-26-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 645097)
like was posted, it goes into limp mode at 280, so you are fine up to that point. Its not ideal, but it won't do any harm. When I had my superchared corvette, both my local performance shop and the head mechanic at Spring Mountain race school in Las Vegas said 285 was as hot as I wanted to see the oil in the LS2, and I think its a function of oil break down and not the particular engine.

before my oil cooler, I saw 260 in stop and go traffic here in atlanta at around 100 outside air temp.

sorry to sound stupid but what happens in limp mode. keep in clean!!!

TamZ 07-26-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 645560)
sorry to sound stupid but what happens in limp mode. keep in clean!!!

:icon18:

Lol...

nicknick 07-26-2010 10:04 PM

In regards to oil on these things, I'd recommend using either Motul or Redline. Both are made from Ester and both resist heat breakdown better than the other common synthetics. If you're going to use the Motul 300V series which is a double ester, it is r3ecommended that oil be changed every 5,000kilometres as this is basically a racing oil and will stay in spec under the most arduous conditions but does need to be changed at 5,000kms'.

Zsteve 07-26-2010 10:07 PM

limp mode
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...PMyvroRSAQLNU=

WarmAndSCSI 07-26-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 645816)
In regards to oil on these things, I'd recommend using either Motul or Redline. Both are made from Ester and both resist heat breakdown better than the other common synthetics. If you're going to use the Motul 300V series which is a double ester, it is r3ecommended that oil be changed every 5,000kilometres as this is basically a racing oil and will stay in spec under the most arduous conditions but does need to be changed at 5,000kms'.

No need for either... I pay extra for Red Line for engines I invest $15k+ into, but not a stock engine that's still under a factory warranty. There really is no advantage or extra insurance, I'd put a wager on that.

Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, take your pick. If you're ultra-picky, there are Group IV oils available on the shelves of any auto store.

Vegasboricua 07-27-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 645910)
No need for either... I pay extra for Red Line for engines I invest $15k+ into, but not a stock engine that's still under a factory warranty. There really is no advantage or extra insurance, I'd put a wager on that.

Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, take your pick. If you're ultra-picky, there are Group IV oils available on the shelves of any auto store.

:iagree:


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