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casey.strader 07-06-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 609317)
Even a 25% tint film (and NOBODY here goes that light) could be illegal when combined with the factory tint (which is usually around 10%)


I went with 25% and it looks just fine. PLENTY dark without getting any more attention from the cops than I need (you know, more than the usual sports car attention we already draw from them). I dont need them to have a reason to be looking at me for anything other than gaining an appreciation for a nice looking machine.:tup:

I went with 20% on my Mazda and I have to roll the damn windows down to back up because I cant see my side mirrors when its dark...maybe it was the brand of film, but I'm really happy with the 25% on the sides of the Z (back three windows and the eyebrow are 15%, and thats no problem).

Togo 07-07-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1325 (Post 609655)
Hey all, first post. I hope I don't get flamed for being an LEO myself, but the individual did cut you a big break for the unlawful speed. Down here in Florida, 30 MPH+ is mandatory court appearance; not sure about your state. Hopefully it's not a criminal traffic violation.

Following too closely - Not sure of what the statute reads for your state but it's not too promising combined with the unlawful speed.

The tint - Definitely get the receipt provided from your tint shop. Hopefully the tint meter was not calibrated and it'll be dismissed upon showing documentation.

Don't worry about being flamed for being LEO...

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There are actually quite a few LEOs and future LEOs on this forum. I'm the latter, waiting for a NYPD academy invite right now, already processed, "4Q'ed" and good to go!:excited:

flashburn 07-07-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1325 (Post 609655)
Hey all, first post. I hope I don't get flamed for being an LEO myself, but the individual did cut you a big break for the unlawful speed. Down here in Florida, 30 MPH+ is mandatory court appearance; not sure about your state. Hopefully it's not a criminal traffic violation.

Following too closely - Not sure of what the statute reads for your state but it's not too promising combined with the unlawful speed.

The tint - Definitely get the receipt provided from your tint shop. Hopefully the tint meter was not calibrated and it'll be dismissed upon showing documentation.

A Florida LEO that drives a 370Z... that gets a big :tup: from me! Not that I am always obeying the law, but you guys have to put up with a ton of stupid *** people down here.

Luckily you guys don't seem to care about tint here, since I always get between 15-20% and I've been pulled over for other things, but never once a ticket for the tint.

Togo 07-07-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 610490)
A Florida LEO that drives a 370Z... that gets a big :tup: from me! Not that I am always obeying the law, but you guys have to put up with a ton of stupid *** people down here.

Luckily you guys don't seem to care about tint here, since I always get between 15-20% and I've been pulled over for other things, but never once a ticket for the tint.

Funny, I went to college in FL. I'd definitely say NY drivers are worse than FL drivers. I also remember when I was down there, a FHP guy pulled over my boss one morning coming to a morning meeting because of his tints.. he was hauling down the highway and was sure he was nailed for his speed but the guy pulled him over strictly because he saw his tints and KNEW they were illegal. They were illegal though, had to be damn near limo tints , lmfao.

flashburn 07-07-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 610503)
Funny, I went to college in FL. I'd definitely say NY drivers are worse than FL drivers. I also remember when I was down there, a FHP guy pulled over my boss one morning coming to a morning meeting because of his tints.. he was hauling down the highway and was sure he was nailed for his speed but the guy pulled him over strictly because he saw his tints and KNEW they were illegal. They were illegal though, had to be damn near limo tints , lmfao.

Well I wasn't speaking specifically with drivers in mind, I just meant in general. People seem to do a lot of stupid **** in this state. But then again, we get a lot of snow birds so we see those same bad drivers you do. :)

I have heard of people getting tickets for Tint in Florida but its always been for under 10%.

billydsz 07-07-2010 02:07 PM

Not sure what the NY laws are anymore, but in NC if you get an 80 in a 55 you are looking at a 6 months DL suspension and that's without priors.

Good luck.

ps What kind of girl trades dates for the weekend? :wtf2:

1325 07-07-2010 02:57 PM

Thanks Flash, lol.

As for FHP, those men and women don't play when it comes to cracking down on illegal tint. I am not a fan of too dark of tinting myself when conducting traffic stops at night, because even with my duty light it won't cut through enough to see inside during the approach.

Although I admit, the darker tinting does cool down the interior significantly.

Cmike2780 07-07-2010 04:10 PM

I honestly don't understand the tint laws in NY. 75% seems rather arbitrary. I agree too dark a tint (less than 25%) poses dangers to officers, but aren't we allowed some form of privacy. Tints darker than 75% are allowed for rear side windows for SUV's and Minivans in NY but not cars? Makes no sense. I've seen crackdowns on tints over the years and have yet to find any significant study on how tinted windows endanger the public, other than hearsay. If tinted windows are so dangerous, why do public official vehicles seem to have blacked windows on most of their cars. Why are they entitled to privacy and not the rest of us. In my previous car, the office just told me to pay the fine and hope I didn't get pulled over again. Seems like they just use it to make some money or to pile on the tickets like the OP.

Just my .02 cents.

Togo 07-07-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 610547)
Well I wasn't speaking specifically with drivers in mind, I just meant in general. People seem to do a lot of stupid **** in this state. But then again, we get a lot of snow birds so we see those same bad drivers you do. :)

I have heard of people getting tickets for Tint in Florida but its always been for under 10%.

Sooo true about the snow birds and yeah in general, I did see some people do really stupid things there. Like one kid try to take a hook out of a bull sharks mouth that he caught and dragged up onto the beach... :facepalm:


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The only real issue I can see with tints is that when pulled over it gives the person inside amble ability and cover to set up an assault on the officer as he approaches without his knowledge of the present dangers. The average joe schmoe isn't thinking this but since a large amount of drug/gun/whatever runners get pulled over and caught for you're regular traffic stop BS (amazing how many drug runners speed) it makes sense to enforce there rules for the LEO's safety.

I just always roll down all my windows and keep my hands up high and on the window sill so they know no funny business is going on.

dudafunk 07-07-2010 05:36 PM

I rolled down the windows AND gave the officer my KEYS. Fine for REAR SIDE WINDOWS in a 370z? Thats ridiculous. I just got back from my lawyer - I told him I *am* guilty of the speeding (I have never understood any excuses for that - I pleaded guilty the last time too, 3 yrs ago) but not the tailgating and NOT AT ALL for the tints, in all probability there should be a happy ending he says, says he can probably take care of it all leaving me with a couple of points that will go with defensive driving. Time shall tell. He asked me to take off my current tints and hand him some pictures.

frost 07-07-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dudafunk (Post 610890)
I rolled down the windows AND gave the officer my KEYS. Fine for REAR SIDE WINDOWS in a 370z? Thats ridiculous. I just got back from my lawyer - I told him I *am* guilty of the speeding (I have never understood any excuses for that - I pleaded guilty the last time too, 3 yrs ago) but not the tailgating and NOT AT ALL for the tints, in all probability there should be a happy ending he says, says he can probably take care of it all leaving me with a couple of points that will go with defensive driving. Time shall tell. He asked me to take off my current tints and hand him some pictures.

Take off your tint? Pfft, find another red one without tint and take pics of that.

flashburn 07-07-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 610783)
The only real issue I can see with tints is that when pulled over it gives the person inside amble ability and cover to set up an assault on the officer as he approaches without his knowledge of the present dangers. The average joe schmoe isn't thinking this but since a large amount of drug/gun/whatever runners get pulled over and caught for you're regular traffic stop BS (amazing how many drug runners speed) it makes sense to enforce there rules for the LEO's safety.

I just always roll down all my windows and keep my hands up high and on the window sill so they know no funny business is going on.

Yep, first thing I do is roll down both my windows all the way. I try to keep both my hands up high on the wheel, but sometimes I forget. I definitely understand where a cop is coming from, because they never know what the **** might go down by a simple "routine" traffic stop. Nothing routine about it.

1325 07-07-2010 08:21 PM

Does your state have a driver improvement course/school? I would definitely opt for it if it reduces the fine amount and will not accrue points once completed.

dudafunk 07-08-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 611000)
Take off your tint? Pfft, find another red one without tint and take pics of that.

I thought about that but read that if you're declaring that you removed your tint based on which your ticket is being "forgiven" or whatever, and if you get caught for the same offense again, the next time the punishment is not the usual one but something more.. I am not sure about the details though.

dudafunk 07-08-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1325 (Post 611078)
Does your state have a driver improvement course/school? I would definitely opt for it if it reduces the fine amount and will not accrue points once completed.

Yes NY allows you to take off upto 4 points.

DarkPath 07-08-2010 09:59 AM

Why didn't you have him measure an UN-TINTED portion of the windshield for a baseline? At least then you could calculate the difference in the additional tint...

DarkPath 07-08-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 610737)
I honestly don't understand the tint laws in NY. 75% seems rather arbitrary. I agree too dark a tint (less than 25%) poses dangers to officers, but aren't we allowed some form of privacy. Tints darker than 75% are allowed for rear side windows for SUV's and Minivans in NY but not cars? Makes no sense. I've seen crackdowns on tints over the years and have yet to find any significant study on how tinted windows endanger the public, other than hearsay. If tinted windows are so dangerous, why do public official vehicles seem to have blacked windows on most of their cars. Why are they entitled to privacy and not the rest of us. In my previous car, the office just told me to pay the fine and hope I didn't get pulled over again. Seems like they just use it to make some money or to pile on the tickets like the OP.

Just my .02 cents.


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dudafunk 07-08-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPath (Post 611953)
Why didn't you have him measure an UN-TINTED portion of the windshield for a baseline? At least then you could calculate the difference in the additional tint...

He wouldn't let me argue, when I insisted mine was legal he would just say you can argue it up with the judge. I've called AutoZone but they don't have the tint measuring device.. WHERE CAN I GET IT FROM?

(Anyway the lawyer was very casual about getting rid about the tint tickets.. but yeah I personally am in no mood to take off such light tints when I've had way darker ones with the older car and never had a tint ticket when I got pulled over for speeding EVEN MORE than this time, back then).

I agree, its all politics and money (and the cops power-trip/ego), not really about the safety blah blah when it comes to my tint issue.

yellowgold 07-08-2010 04:35 PM

my driving license got suspended after 3 tickets in 1 day lol, get a lawyer and you should be fine, don't go alone or you will pay so much money...

golfgirlrobin 07-08-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dudafunk (Post 612180)
I agree, its all politics and money (and the cops power-trip/ego), not really about the safety blah blah when it comes to my tint issue.

Why don't you try googling the number of cops killed every year in traffic stops and then get back to us on that?

And speaking of ego, what kind of guy goes 97 to impress some girl whose standards are so low that she'll trade guys for the weekend?

Zsteve 07-08-2010 04:39 PM

speeding, following too close, you might be screwed any way you go. If you get a lwayer better make sure its one that does this all the time and ask him his succes rate in getting things knocked off, otherwise your just putting money in his and the courts pocket.

Togo 07-08-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golfgirlrobin (Post 612733)
Why don't you try googling the number of cops killed every year in traffic stops and then get back to us on that?

And speaking of ego, what kind of guy goes 97 to impress some girl whose standards are so low that she'll trade guys for the weekend?

:iagree:

Zsteve 07-08-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by golfgirlrobin (Post 612733)
Why don't you try googling the number of cops killed every year in traffic stops and then get back to us on that?

And speaking of ego, what kind of guy goes 97 to impress some girl whose standards are so low that she'll trade guys for the weekend?

Besides if I was the girl I would have said "97" is that all you got? None for you tonight.

Santent 07-08-2010 08:44 PM

Lmao, my girl would shi* bricks if I got over 90 haha!! Btw I totally ran a red light last night, cop was right beside me, didn't see him. I told him I was getting to my drunk *** brother to take him home from the bar, he gave me a verbal warning!!

dudafunk 07-09-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by golfgirlrobin (Post 612733)
Why don't you try googling the number of cops killed every year in traffic stops and then get back to us on that?

And speaking of ego, what kind of guy goes 97 to impress some girl whose standards are so low that she'll trade guys for the weekend?

Oh so your cop needs to peep in from the REAR WINDOW of a 370z thats smaller than a hand?

dudafunk 07-09-2010 08:37 AM

golfgirlrobin : In my first post itself, I said I am guilty of speeding and willing to pay the fine. My post was about my rear side window tint ticket - that are legals, on a window that is smaller than your hand.

BrianMSmith 07-09-2010 10:05 AM

get a lawyer very experienced in traffic violations. You can win most cases outright, probably 95% of them. My lawyer has won over a dozen cases for me - dismissed, only charges me $250 per ticket.

dudafunk 07-09-2010 10:37 AM

Already did brian. Just gotta wait till he does his thing now.

Zsteve 07-09-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMSmith (Post 613718)
get a lawyer very experienced in traffic violations. You can win most cases outright, probably 95% of them. My lawyer has won over a dozen cases for me - dismissed, only charges me $250 per ticket.

Sounds like you are a road hazard with a dozen cases to your belt. Just cuz you get them dismissed doesnt mean you should keep trying for more. I could see one or two here and there but a dozen is probably more than I have been stopped in my whole driving career.

shesha 07-10-2010 01:18 AM

Honestly, you should have told the cop to put his badge and gun down; and let's find out who the real man is!!

fullmonty 07-10-2010 01:35 AM

I know this is NJs law but I thought NY was the same. You can tint any window, to any percentage as long as its not the windshield, or front driver/passenger windows.

Educ8r 07-10-2010 08:07 AM

Moral of this story....let your friends take care of their mishaps, oh yeah and DON'T speed!

Zsteve 07-10-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shesha (Post 615226)
Honestly, you should have told the cop to put his badge and gun down; and let's find out who the real man is!!

Cuz we all know the real man will kick everyones ***. LOL. That reminds me of Revenge of the nerds" where the jocks think they are the real men and then they find out they later work for the nerds.

370Zsteve 07-10-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Educ8r (Post 615423)
Moral of this story....let your friends take care of their mishaps, oh yeah and DON'T speed!

You are driving the wrong vehicle

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SophiaZ 07-10-2010 08:18 PM

There IS a factory tint..but it's hard to see under some lights. If you're in direct sun, and you stand at a slight angle looking at the windows (from the outside)...you'll be able to see circle-type shading. I don't know how else to describe it, but it's there. When I went to talk to my tint lady, she said the lightest tint will be darker becuz of the factory tint ( makes sense becuz my old 350z had the some light factory tint...and it was obvious when I applied actual vinyl tint)

dudafunk 07-26-2010 08:22 AM

The lawyer just called - got the 2 tints tickets dropped, the tailgating was converted to a parking ticket and the speeding to 3 non-speeding points.

4 points in total, $420 fine ( plus $400 attorney fee), points to disappear upon taking defensive driving ($30 or so).

Case closed.

zZSportZz 07-26-2010 09:01 AM

^^ Nice


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