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sonic370 06-07-2010 07:24 PM

Stealership story!!
 
Thought i would relay a story i heard at my dealership today.
Took my 370 by today to schedule a oil change and order a set of locking lug nuts for my car. So anyway when i tell the service rep i need my 3000 mile oil change he says that's a good idea,so i say what do you mean. He says a guy just left his 370 that had only 8500 miles on it and had never changed the oil.
When he brought it in it only had a quart and a half of oil in it and the engine had locked up or blown up and expected it to be covered under warranty.Well anyway that's not happening but the service guy said new engine would run around 14,000 grand does that sound about right? sorry to ramble that just shocked me! Plus one of his 19in rims was bent which he said was 1100 a rim!

Endgame 06-07-2010 07:31 PM

Hmmmm. That is interesting. GM's new LSX crate motor that pushes 600+ HP and 550+ pound feet of torque, with all kind of 7 liter Z06 stuff runs for about $12,000. I'm just saying.....

Windex_ 06-07-2010 07:40 PM

If at the dealership I would believe it. Acura, Toyota, Lexus I have seen 14k+ long blocks from all three.

theDreamer 06-07-2010 07:42 PM

No, the engine is around 9-10k tops.
Also, technically the oil is meant to be changed around 7k miles so the dealership could have a case against him for not paying for a new engine, but I think they were just trying to instill fear into you.

PapoZalsa 06-07-2010 07:52 PM

I did my oil change right after the 1,200 break-in, they put a sticker for the next one due like at 8,000 miles.

I will never go over 3 to 4,000 miles even when I'm using synthetic.

sonic370 06-07-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 567232)
No, the engine is around 9-10k tops.
Also, technically the oil is meant to be changed around 7k miles so the dealership could have a case against him for not paying for a new engine, but I think they were just trying to instill fear into you.


Yeah i think your right. I was just amazed this guy ran the crap out of his car and brought it in with one quart of oil in it and wanted then to fix it after 8500 miles on it. they said his rear tires looked liked they had 25,000 miles on them!

SkyZ 06-07-2010 10:32 PM

ahhh one side of the story, but i wouldnt be surprised if someone ragged on their car. its not exactly a toyota corolla.

Jeffblue 06-07-2010 10:45 PM

if my motor blew, i'd get an LSX or something and have the ******* fastest Z

j.arnaldo 06-08-2010 10:03 AM

Right on the nose, Dreamer. The Owners Manual allows for a 7,500-mile oil change under specified conditions (i.e. not driving on dusty roads, little or no stop'n'go traffic, no hauling, etc.) I do mine at that schedule with no problemo. I seldom put that many miles on her anyway--usually 4,000-a-year, so I got a 3,500-mile leeway to play with.

FuszNissan 06-08-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 567212)
Thought i would relay a story i heard at my dealership today.
Took my 370 by today to schedule a oil change and order a set of locking lug nuts for my car. So anyway when i tell the service rep i need my 3000 mile oil change he says that's a good idea,so i say what do you mean. He says a guy just left his 370 that had only 8500 miles on it and had never changed the oil.
When he brought it in it only had a quart and a half of oil in it and the engine had locked up or blown up and expected it to be covered under warranty.Well anyway that's not happening but the service guy said new engine would run around 14,000 grand does that sound about right? sorry to ramble that just shocked me! Plus one of his 19in rims was bent which he said was 1100 a rim!

370Z is about 10K for the engine. And 8500 miles without changing the oil, talk about lazy. Damn Stealerships!

errett 06-08-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 567823)
370Z is about 10K for the engine. And 8500 miles without changing the oil, talk about lazy. Damn Stealerships!

:bowrofl:

Scott@FontanaNissan 06-08-2010 01:22 PM

Yeah...those STEALERSHIPS are the worst!!! ;)

XwChriswX 06-08-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@FontanaNissan (Post 568058)
Yeah...those STEALERSHIPS are the worst!!! ;)

Especially with guys like SCOTT workin there... :shakes head:






:bowrofl:

phelan 06-08-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 568139)
Especially with guys like SCOTT workin there... :shakes head:






:bowrofl:

I hear a dealership in St. Louis makes you dress up in costumes before you even get into the service department...straaaange costumes..... :ugh2:

:rofl2:

XwChriswX 06-08-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 568147)
I hear a dealership in St. Louis makes you dress up in costumes before you even get into the service department...straaaange costumes..... :ugh2:

:rofl2:

Like Unicorns? :stirthepot:

shadoquad 06-08-2010 02:35 PM

You can tell the stealerships from the good dealers easily, because stealerships are in business to make money. Honest dealers are tax-free, non-profit organizations run by saints or Oprah.

XwChriswX 06-08-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 568156)
You can tell the stealerships from the good dealers easily, because stealerships are in business to make money. Honest dealers are tax-free, non-profit organizations run by saints or Oprah.

Oprah Fusz... I dunno lol Doesn't have the same ring to it :icon17:

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 568147)
I hear a dealership in St. Louis makes you dress up in costumes before you even get into the service department...straaaange costumes..... :ugh2:

:rofl2:


Phelan.... that costume is called a strap on.... and that wasn't the service department....

.... I.... I'm sorry....

SkyZ 06-08-2010 04:24 PM

hmmm instead of an lsx i would try to get an aston v12 :tup: lots of mods but i'll get it to fit =]

Jeffblue 06-08-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ (Post 568306)
hmmm instead of an lsx i would try to get an aston v12 :tup: lots of mods but i'll get it to fit =]

nah the Aston V12... thats for my smart car conversion...

Y2K SE 06-08-2010 06:14 PM

The problem isn't so much the mileage, but the lack of checking the oil level and realizing its running low!

DRoc7822 06-08-2010 06:28 PM

Yeah that dude is just plain dumb. It might of been 14k for the engine and them to install the engine and everything. The guy that had the car obviousely didnt know a thing about cars or else he would of got it changed sooner. I know some people change every 2k miles... and thats basically just throwing money away in my opinion. I usually change mine every 5k. Longest Ive gone was 6k but kept checking to see if it was or not.

Modshack 06-08-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DRoc7822 (Post 568537)
Yeah that dude is just plain dumb. It might of been 14k for the engine and them to install the engine and everything. The guy that had the car obviousely didnt know a thing about cars or else he would of got it changed sooner. .

Or at least checked it. Published oil change intervals have NOTHING to do with the owners need to check and maintain the car. This guy was an idiot and deserves the bill for repair. Sounds like he beat the crap out of the car. I have absolutely no sympathy here.
Morons that abuse their cars probably have other issues too. You probably wouldn't want to be his girlfriend. Spoiled rich kid comes to mind..

FuszNissan 06-08-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 568543)
Or at least checked it. Published oil change intervals have NOTHING to do with the owners need to check and maintain the car. This guy was an idiot and deserves the bill for repair. Sounds like he beat the crap out of the car. I have absolutely no sympathy here.
Morons that abuse their cars probably have other issues too. You probably wouldn't want to be his girlfriend. Spoiled rich kid comes to mind..

Wow...Steve tell us how your really feel.

Modshack 06-08-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 568557)
Wow...Steve tell us how your really feel.

OK!......I really despise people who beat on things mechanical.....

sonic370 06-08-2010 07:26 PM

i agree that was the point of the post. he treated the car like crap and wanted nissan to foot the bill.any fool who runs his car 4 quarts low and then blames the dealership is an idiot.not all dealerships are crooks.

and no i don't work at one.

R390 06-09-2010 09:53 AM

anyone want sticker shock + a heart attack just look at the labor for changing out the ansa headers on a 355 Ferrari or the fuel pump replacement on a Ferrari.

Windex_ 06-09-2010 12:37 PM

Off topic but AFAIK or from what I was hearing before the GTR power plant front to back was around 38k

Jeffblue 06-09-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 568576)
OK!......I really despise people who beat on things mechanical.....

Perhaps modshack was a daily driven 86 Camry in a past life? :p


I agree, what a moron this guy was. he should go hang out with the 'corvette z06 Burnout' guy

dudafunk 06-09-2010 01:55 PM

Why are you going to the dealership for the oil change? I went for my first but no more... got my second elsewhere. I stood next to the guy and watched him do everything nice and good. Dealership oil change costs are about twice vs. 80-90 dollar an hour repair shops, good ones.. I'm not even saying goto Walmart tire n lube..

I paid $85 or so at my mechanic, vs. almost twice of that at the dealership. Now that I've seen it step by step and there's a nice thread by AK370 with pics/instructions to do it yourself I'm gonna try the next time.

Modshack 06-09-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 569699)
Perhaps modshack was a daily driven 86 Camry in a past life? :p

:tup:....Treat your car the way you'd like to be treated!

XwChriswX 06-09-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 569821)
:tup:....Treat your car the way you'd like to be treated!

LoL What if you're into S&M :bowrofl:

shadoquad 06-09-2010 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 569855)
LoL What if you're into S&M :bowrofl:

Buy a Chrysler? :ughdance:

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

FuszNissan 06-09-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudafunk (Post 569818)
Why are you going to the dealership for the oil change? I went for my first but no more... got my second elsewhere. I stood next to the guy and watched him do everything nice and good. Dealership oil change costs are about twice vs. 80-90 dollar an hour repair shops, good ones.. I'm not even saying goto Walmart tire n lube..

I paid $85 or so at my mechanic, vs. almost twice of that at the dealership. Now that I've seen it step by step and there's a nice thread by AK370 with pics/instructions to do it yourself I'm gonna try the next time.

A. Some people don't have time.
B. Some people like everything to be documented with the manufacture.

shadoquad 06-09-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 569870)
A. Some people don't have time.
B. Some people like everything to be documented with the manufacture.

Time/convenience is part of it. Plus it's relatively cheap to get someone to do. I also like taking my cars to a garage for oil changes, because they can do checks on my brakes, alignment, tire wear, and make suggestions. Plus, I get them to rotate the tires when needed (not that you can do that on a Z)

Having a service history is a huge advantage if you ever go to privately sell the vehicle. You CAN document buying the oil, record the mileage, and throw that into the folder with the rest, but that doesn't always happen if your hands are covered in oil and you're tired/sweaty. :icon17:

sonic370 06-09-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudafunk (Post 569818)
Why are you going to the dealership for the oil change? I went for my first but no more... got my second elsewhere. I stood next to the guy and watched him do everything nice and good. Dealership oil change costs are about twice vs. 80-90 dollar an hour repair shops, good ones.. I'm not even saying goto Walmart tire n lube..

I paid $85 or so at my mechanic, vs. almost twice of that at the dealership. Now that I've seen it step by step and there's a nice thread by AK370 with pics/instructions to do it yourself I'm gonna try the next time.


I think your right, but the dealerships are just like other business some better or more honest than others.
For the record the dealership where i bought my z at charges 75.00 for mobil 1 oil change. For service i tend to go there just in case i have a problem
they can't say the car was never serviced right.

Modshack 06-09-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 570116)
I think your right, but the dealerships are just like other business some better or more honest than others.
.

Exactly....My dealership offers free oil changes for life....Unlikely I'll ever take advantage of this, but it's definitely a value added perk for the non-enthusiast purchasers..

sonic370 06-10-2010 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 570149)
Exactly....My dealership offers free oil changes for life....Unlikely I'll ever take advantage of this, but it's definitely a value added perk for the non-enthusiast purchasers..


Great color on your Z! I think its the fastest one nissan makes.
For certain the coolest!

rarwz 06-10-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 570149)
Exactly....My dealership offers free oil changes for life....Unlikely I'll ever take advantage of this, but it's definitely a value added perk for the non-enthusiast purchasers..

When I bought my Z my dealership gave me the same deal, free oil change for life!

Let me translate out of dealership speak:
A) An oil change for the Z is $140 at the dealership
B) A 7,500 mile service is $310, but the oil change is free, so $170

The only "Free" oil change is one that is included in a service package like the 7,500 mile, which also includes checking fluids and a tire rotation. But tire rotations don't apply to the Z, so your basically paying 30$ for someone to look at the 4 or 5 fluids. Notice the lingo, CHECK the fluids, not refill them if need be. Oh yea, forgot to mention, they put your car through the car wash too! A full tank of gas makes a top of the line machine car wash all of 8$ so to me thats not that much of a value.

No thanks, for 85$ i can get 6 quarts of redline and an oil filter and do it myself.

dudafunk 06-10-2010 08:18 AM

The thing about having a "dealer maintained" car being useful would apply more to regular cars not speciality cars in my opinion. A non-enthusiast would rarely buy a used Z, mostly out of the concern that he won't be able to tell how badly the previous owner beat/rev'd it, only someone who knows their car-tech would look into buying a used Z, in which case he would know that its okay to not have a history of oil changes at the dealer...

(Also, what I noticed at my dealership - Smithtown Nissan - was actually the other way round from what people sayin here... they rush things to get more volume cars.. the smaller shop guy is a nice hard working guy who does a more meticulous job..).. it takes the same 'time' at either place.

I guess another factor plays for me, I'm not a fan of 'dropping it off for the day' be it at a dealer or smaller shops after seeing videos of people not doing jobs in big places (check out on utube) at all or just other OCD fears..


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