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KillerBee370 06-03-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 562791)
But Im with you on this one, I like crazy too. I dont mind the women throwing me on the bed or floor and saying she wants to rake control.

Remember that scene in Fight Club when Brad Pitt's character says "wanna finish her off"?

Yeah... it's kinda like that. :D

billydsz 06-03-2010 10:30 PM

Paddles!! Just like my racing wheel on the xbox360 and forza. The 370z feels pretty good in that game, very similar to the real thing, just no g's. lol.

Jordo! 06-04-2010 01:25 AM

Paddles.

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Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 562778)
autotragic noobs lol

What's tragic is that the 7AT is faster than the 6MT :tiphat:

SkyZ 06-04-2010 01:52 AM

man i hate it when they put upshift to push up. its so opposite to what ive done all along. u pull down to shift up, it just makes sense, specially under hard accel. and the opposite for braking

davids81 06-04-2010 05:11 AM

I don't get it... so pushing "up" to upshift doesn't make sense?? :confused:


But 2-3 shift has always been "up" for me...


BTW... if manuals were obsolete and inferior to the 7at technology, then why is the Nismo only available in 6MT??? Anniversary edition? Seems like Nissan has a soft spot for the old dead technology.

Jordo! 06-04-2010 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by davids81 (Post 563174)
I don't get it... so pushing "up" to upshift doesn't make sense?? :confused:


But 2-3 shift has always been "up" for me...

BTW... if manuals were obsolete and inferior to the 7at technology, then why is the Nismo only available in 6MT??? Anniversary edition? Seems like Nissan has a soft spot for the old dead technology.

I thought for go karts down is upshift...?

Probably because they figured that the people who spring for the Nismo model will also be the people for whom operating a clutch pedal is an essential part of driving (never mind all that steering, braking, and accelerating...).

In short, qualia. For some that trumps raw performance.

What would have been interesting is if they had offered the Nismo with the GT-R trans... would have driven up the price too much tho'.

KillerBee370 06-04-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by davids81 (Post 563174)
I don't get it... so pushing "up" to upshift doesn't make sense?? :confused:

In racing terms in a racecar on a track it doesn't make sense. With almost any sequential shifter (which is essentially what the "stick" becomes in a 7AT in manual mode) momentum plays a large part in shifting. While accelerating, momentum is forcing you "back" into your seat and hence, an "upshift" should be a simple pull on the stick to shift whereas while braking, all the momentum is being forced forward and intstead of fighting that momentum, it is easier at that point to simply "push" forward for a downshift.

As is the case with street cars with a "civilian" form of sequential shifter, I guess auto manufacturers figure up is up and down is down. As a track driver it makes me crazy but what can you do? Although my DD is not a performance car, it is an auto with paddles and this "sequential" shifter in "manual" mode.

I had actually considered putting a true sequential shifter in my 6MT but I haven't heard of anyone manufacturing the unit yet.

Jordo! 06-04-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 563305)
In racing terms in a racecar on a track it doesn't make sense. With almost any sequential shifter (which is essentially what the "stick" becomes in a 7AT in manual mode) momentum plays a large part in shifting. While accelerating, momentum is forcing you "back" into your seat and hence, an "upshift" should be a simple pull on the stick to shift whereas while braking, all the momentum is being forced forward and intstead of fighting that momentum, it is easier at that point to simply "push" forward for a downshift.

As is the case with street cars with a "civilian" form of sequential shifter, I guess auto manufacturers figure up is up and down is down. As a track driver it makes me crazy but what can you do? Although my DD is not a performance car, it is an auto with paddles and this "sequential" shifter in "manual" mode.

I had actually considered putting a true sequential shifter in my 6MT but I haven't heard of anyone manufacturing the unit yet.

Heard of these guys? Paddle Shifters, Sequential and Electronic - ASaP

I think they can set up something like this for any trans -- buddy of mine had this done for his Lotus -- works great.

antman22 06-04-2010 10:41 AM

paddles, allows me to keep hands on wheel.

Push370zzz 06-04-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 563398)
Heard of these guys? Paddle Shifters, Sequential and Electronic - ASaP

I think they can set up something like this for any trans -- buddy of mine had this done for his Lotus -- works great.

That is sweet, but how much?

Vegitto-kun 06-04-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 563305)
In racing terms in a racecar on a track it doesn't make sense. With almost any sequential shifter (which is essentially what the "stick" becomes in a 7AT in manual mode) momentum plays a large part in shifting. While accelerating, momentum is forcing you "back" into your seat and hence, an "upshift" should be a simple pull on the stick to shift whereas while braking, all the momentum is being forced forward and intstead of fighting that momentum, it is easier at that point to simply "push" forward for a downshift.

As is the case with street cars with a "civilian" form of sequential shifter, I guess auto manufacturers figure up is up and down is down. As a track driver it makes me crazy but what can you do? Although my DD is not a performance car, it is an auto with paddles and this "sequential" shifter in "manual" mode.

I had actually considered putting a true sequential shifter in my 6MT but I haven't heard of anyone manufacturing the unit yet.

I honestly still don't see the problem. its not like your hand flies into the back when accelerating so what is the problem with the "up"shift?

I know plenty of people who bash these type of stuff because "racing drivers do it"

I know people who shake around their steering wheel while turning because they see F1 drivers do it. :shakes head:

Jordo! 06-04-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smashwebs (Post 563417)
That is sweet, but how much?

Looks like $3 grand in the box -- see further this thread for details moremonkey.com • View topic - Ronin Sequential Shifter...

All things considered, not unreasonable.

SkyZ 06-04-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 563423)
I honestly still don't see the problem. its not like your hand flies into the back when accelerating so what is the problem with the "up"shift?

I know plenty of people who bash these type of stuff because "racing drivers do it"

I know people who shake around their steering wheel while turning because they see F1 drivers do it. :shakes head:

haha the problem is habits, my habit is to pull back to up shift and push forward to down.

its like playing a fps game and having the vertical axis inverted.

JACKPAC 06-04-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by davids81 (Post 563174)
BTW... if manuals were obsolete and inferior to the 7at technology, then why is the Nismo only available in 6MT??? Anniversary edition? Seems like Nissan has a soft spot for the old dead technology.

Nostagia maybe. Both the Nismo and the 40th are slower than the 7AT :stirthepot:

Nick911sc 06-04-2010 01:00 PM

The tiptronic in my BMW is pull to upshift push to downshift.

I don't use it much anymore since I have the 6MT in my Z though. Can't really compare the two feelings lol


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