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Lee123 05-30-2010 12:20 PM

How hard is it to steal a 370z?
 
I live in Phoenix which is the car theft capitol of the USA and bought a 2010 roadster a few weeks ago. Some Saturday nights we like to go to a restaurant in a high theft area. It's bad enough that employees of the restaurant have had their cars stolen. They were parked around the side rather than in front, but it's still enough of a worry that we drove my wife's car to dinner. It looks to me like it would be hard to steal my car short of towing it away, but if I'm wrong I'd like to find out now rather than finding it missing after dinner.

Neo187H 05-30-2010 12:30 PM

It would be quite difficult, theres no splicing the red and blue wires together to get it to run like they show in the movies on these cars. It would require someone have the computer knowledge to have a program that would spoof the secure rolling code that your key and ignition modules uses to make it think they have a key.

theDreamer 05-30-2010 12:35 PM

What does the intellikey use to send its signal? RFID, bluetooth, other?

Endgame 05-30-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee123 (Post 556156)
I live in Phoenix which is the car theft capitol of the USA and bought a 2010 roadster a few weeks ago. Some Saturday nights we like to go to a restaurant in a high theft area. It's bad enough that employees of the restaurant have had their cars stolen. They were parked around the side rather than in front, but it's still enough of a worry that we drove my wife's car to dinner. It looks to me like it would be hard to steal my car short of towing it away, but if I'm wrong I'd like to find out now rather than finding it missing after dinner.

Where are you going for dinner if I may ask....?

frost 05-30-2010 01:10 PM

That's how I got my Z.

shabarivas 05-30-2010 01:10 PM

lol good point... any car can be stolen if they want it...

wolf41779 05-30-2010 01:11 PM

A good friend of mine works for a car audio place and installs alarms on the daily. I asked if I should invest in an alarm, but he was telling me its almost impossible to steal these cars. He would do an alarm for me if my main concern was the security of articles found inside the cabin, but doesnt suggest an alarm if Im worried about it getting stolen. Being that you have a convertable I would still be cautious because dumb thieves may try and cut the roof to get in, then realize they are f@cked after seeing what they are up against. Or you could just look for a different restaurant to eat at. Im jus sayin'...

SoCal 370Z 05-30-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

How hard is it to steal a 370z?
Pro or amateur?

Lee123 05-30-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 556211)
Where are you going for dinner if I may ask....?

Metrocenter.

wolf41779 05-30-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 556215)
That's how I got my Z.


That weird...I just looked outside and I dont see my Z in the driveway!:icon18:

UNKNOWN_370 05-30-2010 01:31 PM

Nissan security system is the most advanced of all stock alarms. As far as hotwiring your car? It would be extremely difficult. Even if they knew how it would take too long to bother. But there are no suspension sensors. So stealing your car wheels would be easy. Also there's some kinda trick with magnets they do to shut off alarms. So they can steal your whole interior. Seats gauges, pull the motor right out of the hood.
But your chassis will stay right there. You kno why? The computer kill switch will make sure that they never start the car. But when there's a will there's a way. A well financed car thief ring would just tow it without attracting too much attention.
So just make sure you have insurance and enjoy your car without paranoia of thievery. Just take normal precautions. Don't park on dead streets. Don't park in a solitary area. A lot of people do that so the car won't get scratched but it makes it a total mark for thieves. Trust me. I know a few ex-car thieves.
Sport package will be a target cuz the rim and tires alone are worth 3k. The nismo almost 5k. The brake kits are the new hot item. So expect more thievery this summer. Also the bose head units sell pretty
well. You got alota guys out there that bought base and for $1,000 to 1,500 can get YOUR touring packages. Lol. That sux.

Trips 05-30-2010 01:35 PM

LoJack!

Zsteve 05-30-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 556215)
That's how I got my Z.

Me too I stole it from Mexico as Im only 1 mile from the border. A little pay back.

Lee123 05-30-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 556258)
Me too I stole it from Mexico as Im only 1 mile from the border. A little pay back.

It would be good to see one coming North for a change!

510z 05-30-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee123 (Post 556232)
Metrocenter.

Do not go to metrocenter if you own a ford or dodge truck. it will be stolen. Your Z should be safe from being stolen there but with all the little ***** at castles and coasters it will get vandalized. Dont go. there is nothing worthwhile at metrocenter that you cant find somewhere else.

VCuomo 05-30-2010 03:41 PM

A pro would need less than 5 minutes and a flatbed w/hoist.

Red370 05-30-2010 05:26 PM

wow, this metrocenter place sounds exciting....

frost 05-30-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 556488)
wow, this metrocenter place sounds exciting....

rofl. circa 12 years ago, it was the place to be!

Lee123 05-30-2010 05:47 PM

It's not bad during the day. Trouble is, we like to go to Black Angus for Saturday night dinner now and then. Have for twenty years. They keep closing them and that's the only one left anywhere near us. When we first decided to go there last year I went to check it out. Went in the mall to get some Cinabons while I was there. I asked the girl at the counter if the auto theft problems were as bad as I heard. She said her car was stolen the month before on a Tuesday afternoon. At least two of the employees at the restaurant have had their cars stolen.

frost 05-30-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee123 (Post 556507)
It's not bad during the day. Trouble is, we like to go to Black Angus for Saturday night dinner now and then. Have for twenty years. They keep closing them and that's the only one left anywhere near us. When we first decided to go there last year I went to check it out. Went in the mall to get some Cinabons while I was there. I asked the girl at the counter if the auto theft problems were as bad as I heard. She said her car was stolen the month before on a Tuesday afternoon. At least two of the employees at the restaurant have had their cars stolen.

Glad to know where I can take the Z when I'm ready to move on.

zZSportZz 05-30-2010 06:13 PM

Sounds like that bait car show needs to visit this area :)

frost 05-30-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 556517)
Sounds like that bait car show needs to visit this area :)

:bowrofl: I love that show

antennahead 05-30-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 556493)
rofl. circa 12 years ago, it was the place to be!

Could the present problems have anything to do with the "illegal alien" issue? :rolleyes:

frost 05-30-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 556524)
Could the present problems have anything to do with the "illegal alien" issue? :rolleyes:

John, are you a bartender? Because you're serving pint-sized glasses of the TRUTH.

Endgame 05-30-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee123 (Post 556507)
It's not bad during the day. Trouble is, we like to go to Black Angus for Saturday night dinner now and then. Have for twenty years. They keep closing them and that's the only one left anywhere near us. When we first decided to go there last year I went to check it out. Went in the mall to get some Cinabons while I was there. I asked the girl at the counter if the auto theft problems were as bad as I heard. She said her car was stolen the month before on a Tuesday afternoon. At least two of the employees at the restaurant have had their cars stolen.

Thanks for the fyi.... My buddy is the executive chef at that Black Angus. At least I know not to drive my Z if we go their to eat....

antennahead 05-30-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 556526)
John, are you a bartender? Because you're serving pint-sized glasses of the TRUTH.

Naw................. word for the day is succinct :tup: :tiphat:

frost 05-30-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 556528)
Naw................. word for the day is succinct :tup: :tiphat:

That means "blunt" for everyone educated in Arizona.

antennahead 05-30-2010 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 556530)
That means "blunt" for everyone educated in Arizona.

lol, succinct: Characterized by clear, precise expression in few words; concise and terse; marked by brevity and clarity; concise

I think what you're missing down there right now is the "clarity" part of the definition :roflpuke2:

frost 05-30-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 556533)
lol, succinct: Characterized by clear, precise expression in few words; concise and terse; marked by brevity and clarity; concise

I think what you're missing down there right now is the "clarity" part of the definition :roflpuke2:

Clarity, like an epiphany?

sonic370 05-30-2010 07:23 PM

i guess small town life has its advantages.
i've got the sports package though. makes me worry about my wheels and tires.

PapoZalsa 05-30-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 556547)
i guess small town life has its advantages.
i've got the sports package though. makes me worry about my wheels and tires.

I would invest in a good set of wheel locks!!!!





For the OG, change restaraunt or go in your "hupty". :ugh2:

drdre8424 05-31-2010 03:02 AM

this maybe a stupid question...
but besides the fact that you'd be pretty f'ckd, what happens when you lose your key?

does the dealer use some computer thing to program another key, or do u have to pay like $23452345 to get another key directly from Nissan?

1slow370 05-31-2010 03:15 AM

if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.

AK370Z 05-31-2010 03:16 AM

This guy did it ...

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-new-370z.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmmJtE2NNCs

drdre8424 05-31-2010 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 556834)
if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.

sounds like you know from personal experience...

Scott @ RA 05-31-2010 03:36 AM

For the most part it is very hard to conventially steal the newer Nissan's. They have the newer and ever evolving NATS (Nissan Anti Theft System) A few years back when they stole my G35, they were smart enough to know this and just used a tow truck to steal it. LOL

Even if you had the exact key cut (even the proper laser key for the car) you have to use a Nissan Consult II hand held computer to properly program that particular key or set of keys to your cars particular ECU.
When we flash the ECU's in these cars we have to reprogram both the laser keys for the car as well, otherwise after 10 start attempts without the laser chip in the key properly programmed for the car the cars NATS system (that is built into the ECU) will completely lock any user out, even with the correct programmed key.

Scott @ RA 05-31-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 556834)
if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.


^^ mostly true. Unless you have access to a Nissan Consult II computer like we do. LOL But that is usually only issued to Nissan Dealerships.

As for the metal tag, it is the best idea to keep it for sure, but even without it the dealership can look up the code they need based on your VIN # and ECU bar code number. Of course they will want to see ID and a few forms of paperwork to confirm that you do indeed own the car, LOL hahaha

VCuomo 05-31-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 556840)
^^ mostly true. Unless you have access to a Nissan Consult II computer like we do. LOL But that is usually only issued to Nissan Dealerships.

As for the metal tag, it is the best idea to keep it for sure, but even without it the dealership can look up the code they need based on your VIN # and ECU bar code number. Of course they will want to see ID and a few forms of paperwork to confirm that you do indeed own the car, LOL hahaha

That's good to know since I never got a metal tag with my Z...

gumpy 05-31-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 556254)
Nissan security system is the most advanced of all stock alarms. As far as hotwiring your car? It would be extremely difficult. Even if they knew how it would take too long to bother. But there are no suspension sensors. So stealing your car wheels would be easy. Also there's some kinda trick with magnets they do to shut off alarms. So they can steal your whole interior. Seats gauges, pull the motor right out of the hood.
But your chassis will stay right there. You kno why? The computer kill switch will make sure that they never start the car. But when there's a will there's a way. A well financed car thief ring would just tow it without attracting too much attention.
So just make sure you have insurance and enjoy your car without paranoia of thievery. Just take normal precautions. Don't park on dead streets. Don't park in a solitary area. A lot of people do that so the car won't get scratched but it makes it a total mark for thieves. Trust me. I know a few ex-car thieves.
Sport package will be a target cuz the rim and tires alone are worth 3k. The nismo almost 5k. The brake kits are the new hot item. So expect more thievery this summer. Also the bose head units sell pretty
well. You got alota guys out there that bought base and for $1,000 to 1,500 can get YOUR touring packages. Lol. That sux.

really?

In Australia Nissan car's generally get low scores for security... Subaru get high scores... so i always thought it was a simple system that Nissan used...

in the end if people steal these cars here, they just load on the back of a truck and drive off and deal with the system later...

Jeffblue 05-31-2010 07:12 PM

as many of you know probably, my wheels were stolen off my car parked in my driveway. I did not have wheel locks on, as the dealer didn't have them in stock when i bought the car, and i didn't have time to get them after the fact. I had the car for less than 3 weeks. So yea, no wheel locks, no alarm, in front of my house in a nice neighborhood. you guys think wheel locks alone would have stopped this?

Needless to say, wheels replaced by insurance, in garage, wheel locks installed, viper alarm with tilt sensor/audio sensor/smart start will be installed on thursday.

Will your insurance company ever declare your car totalled if it has been stripped enough?


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