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PapoZalsa 05-30-2010 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 556547)
i guess small town life has its advantages.
i've got the sports package though. makes me worry about my wheels and tires.
I would invest in a good set of wheel locks!!!!





For the OG, change restaraunt or go in your "hupty". :ugh2:

drdre8424 05-31-2010 03:02 AM
this maybe a stupid question...
but besides the fact that you'd be pretty f'ckd, what happens when you lose your key?

does the dealer use some computer thing to program another key, or do u have to pay like $23452345 to get another key directly from Nissan?

1slow370 05-31-2010 03:15 AM
if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.

AK370Z 05-31-2010 03:16 AM
This guy did it ...

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-new-370z.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmmJtE2NNCs

drdre8424 05-31-2010 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 556834)
if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.
sounds like you know from personal experience...

Scott @ RA 05-31-2010 03:36 AM
For the most part it is very hard to conventially steal the newer Nissan's. They have the newer and ever evolving NATS (Nissan Anti Theft System) A few years back when they stole my G35, they were smart enough to know this and just used a tow truck to steal it. LOL

Even if you had the exact key cut (even the proper laser key for the car) you have to use a Nissan Consult II hand held computer to properly program that particular key or set of keys to your cars particular ECU.
When we flash the ECU's in these cars we have to reprogram both the laser keys for the car as well, otherwise after 10 start attempts without the laser chip in the key properly programmed for the car the cars NATS system (that is built into the ECU) will completely lock any user out, even with the correct programmed key.

Scott @ RA 05-31-2010 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 556834)
if you lose your key you go to the dealership (with the car somehow) and then they get two new fobs and use there fancy dealer only computer to reprogram it all, if you don't lose that little metal rectangle with some numbers on it that came with your car then they don't have to replace all the mechanical locks either so keep that baby in your dresser at home (if you didn't think it was just some part tag deal and throw it out like most owners). It's a pain and it will cost you lots of money, and it will be the worst day of your life and totally screw your plans.

^^ mostly true. Unless you have access to a Nissan Consult II computer like we do. LOL But that is usually only issued to Nissan Dealerships.

As for the metal tag, it is the best idea to keep it for sure, but even without it the dealership can look up the code they need based on your VIN # and ECU bar code number. Of course they will want to see ID and a few forms of paperwork to confirm that you do indeed own the car, LOL hahaha

VCuomo 05-31-2010 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 556840)
^^ mostly true. Unless you have access to a Nissan Consult II computer like we do. LOL But that is usually only issued to Nissan Dealerships.

As for the metal tag, it is the best idea to keep it for sure, but even without it the dealership can look up the code they need based on your VIN # and ECU bar code number. Of course they will want to see ID and a few forms of paperwork to confirm that you do indeed own the car, LOL hahaha
That's good to know since I never got a metal tag with my Z...

gumpy 05-31-2010 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 556254)
Nissan security system is the most advanced of all stock alarms. As far as hotwiring your car? It would be extremely difficult. Even if they knew how it would take too long to bother. But there are no suspension sensors. So stealing your car wheels would be easy. Also there's some kinda trick with magnets they do to shut off alarms. So they can steal your whole interior. Seats gauges, pull the motor right out of the hood.
But your chassis will stay right there. You kno why? The computer kill switch will make sure that they never start the car. But when there's a will there's a way. A well financed car thief ring would just tow it without attracting too much attention.
So just make sure you have insurance and enjoy your car without paranoia of thievery. Just take normal precautions. Don't park on dead streets. Don't park in a solitary area. A lot of people do that so the car won't get scratched but it makes it a total mark for thieves. Trust me. I know a few ex-car thieves.
Sport package will be a target cuz the rim and tires alone are worth 3k. The nismo almost 5k. The brake kits are the new hot item. So expect more thievery this summer. Also the bose head units sell pretty
well. You got alota guys out there that bought base and for $1,000 to 1,500 can get YOUR touring packages. Lol. That sux.
really?

In Australia Nissan car's generally get low scores for security... Subaru get high scores... so i always thought it was a simple system that Nissan used...

in the end if people steal these cars here, they just load on the back of a truck and drive off and deal with the system later...

Jeffblue 05-31-2010 07:12 PM
as many of you know probably, my wheels were stolen off my car parked in my driveway. I did not have wheel locks on, as the dealer didn't have them in stock when i bought the car, and i didn't have time to get them after the fact. I had the car for less than 3 weeks. So yea, no wheel locks, no alarm, in front of my house in a nice neighborhood. you guys think wheel locks alone would have stopped this?

Needless to say, wheels replaced by insurance, in garage, wheel locks installed, viper alarm with tilt sensor/audio sensor/smart start will be installed on thursday.

Will your insurance company ever declare your car totalled if it has been stripped enough?

Chris@FsP 05-31-2010 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 556840)
^^ mostly true. Unless you have access to a Nissan Consult II computer like we do. LOL But that is usually only issued to Nissan Dealerships.

As for the metal tag, it is the best idea to keep it for sure, but even without it the dealership can look up the code they need based on your VIN # and ECU bar code number. Of course they will want to see ID and a few forms of paperwork to confirm that you do indeed own the car, LOL hahaha
That's nice, but the 370Z and even the newer 350Z's use the Consult III :rofl2:

Scott @ RA 06-01-2010 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FailsafePerf (Post 557580)
That's nice, but the 370Z and even the newer 350Z's use the Consult III :rofl2:
Haha... That is true, although...... if you have the correct upgraded software and the newest card for the actual Consult II hand held computer, than you can access many of the Consult III features, including but not limited to the NATS system of the newest cars. :tup: Way to be on top of it though. ;)

gumpy 06-01-2010 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 557571)
as many of you know probably, my wheels were stolen off my car parked in my driveway. I did not have wheel locks on, as the dealer didn't have them in stock when i bought the car, and i didn't have time to get them after the fact. I had the car for less than 3 weeks. So yea, no wheel locks, no alarm, in front of my house in a nice neighborhood. you guys think wheel locks alone would have stopped this?

Needless to say, wheels replaced by insurance, in garage, wheel locks installed, viper alarm with tilt sensor/audio sensor/smart start will be installed on thursday.

Will your insurance company ever declare your car totalled if it has been stripped enough?
I heard wheel locks are a small deterant for someone that knows what they're doing. It'll maybe had 30 seconds to their work of getting your wheels.

Sorta like pad locks on airline luggage, once you know how to pick locks they don't pose much of a threat... Or someone with a bolt cutter or a knife to slash the side of the bags.

Vegitto-kun 06-01-2010 08:11 AM
I never got the metal tag with my keys

370ZzZz 06-01-2010 10:05 AM
After readin this thread, I'm glad I live where i do lol


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