oh I hear ya. That's why I said HOPEFULLY he'd be honest. With any luck maybe he's recently had wheels stolen or something like that.

Bottom line, unless you park the car/truck in Fort Knox, you're never safe.

I'm completely against wheel locks. I garage the nice cars anyway and I'd much rather get my wheels stolen than have an angry, frustrated thief bust out my windows and bang up my car with a breaker bar or jack handle.

The rimlox website looks like a scam? there's just one jpeg photo for the website, and no ordering instructions online...????

The guy posting about rimlox is a scam, he has only 2 posts both of which are promoting this non existent 1 page website with no purchasing instructions, and the site is just one jpeg.

agreed, definintely scam

So obviously you leave your house unlocked for fear of having a burglar kicking in the doors or busting a window to get in?

You must also leave your car doors unlocked (not to mention the garage that you keep them in) and windows down too?

How are any of those ignorant behaviors similar to not believing in wheel locks? My argument was perfectly valid. I'd rather have my wheels nicked with my car relatively unscathed than my entire car trashed by a vengeful thief. That's what $50 comprehensive deductibles are for anyway. :ugh2: Wheels can be replaced, but a completely trashed car will never be "like new" again.

By your argument, I'd be taking the wheels off the car each time I park it and leaving them next to it for somebody to steal. That is an open door for a thief, simply not having pointless, easily circumvented wheel locks is not.

haha no, his statement was VERY accurate. YOUR argument of taking the wheels off and leaving them for someone to steal would be like taking all your TVs, art work, and jewlery out of your house and setting it on the sidewalk for people to take.

Not locking your wheels = not locking your doors. :rofl2:

it's a cost-benefit analysis..

what's more valuable? the door/window or the stuff in the house? the stuff in the house is more valuable (including you and the family), so the doors stay locked and the burglar has to break the door to make it inside.

with the z, what's more costly to you personally? replacing the wheels or fixing actual damage to the car (which may be minimal or severe)? replacing the wheels costs less, thanks to insurance, and the car won't suffer any damage that could trigger a salvage title. so in this case, it makes more sense to leave off the locks. (this assumes, of course, that thieves do more damage to a car if it's got wheel locks. if not, then the locks should stay on.)

over the many break-ins i've suffered, the value of the stolen stuff has been much much less than the cost of fixing windows/body damage/lock damage/paint. so if i know a thief is going to make it into my car either way, why not leave the doors unlocked and save myself the repair cost?

Also less time consuming. If they damage the window or scratch the paint...etc you have to deal with that then just getting a rim put on.

the wheels/tires/TPS/lug nuts + labor costs for my Jeep cost just under $10K. That would have to be A LOT of broken windows and scratched paint.

Sorry to hear about the theft. Bring back horse whipping I say.
My buddy and I are at odds with our driveways. I have automatic lights to deter crime while he thinks it gives crooks light to work in. Were your thieves working in the dark or light?

but at least losing your wheels wouldn't risk your car getting a salvage title, which would be the worst part of having your car significantly damaged..

somehow I highly doubt they would have been able to do enough damage to my truck while it was sitting in my driveway to allow for that. they would have had to take a sledge hammer to every part of the truck, turn the hose on inside, rip out the interior... :D

But I do know what you mean and I agree. I do think the people doing all the wheel stealing are more in for the cash than worrying about doing damage to the car. I know my truck didn't have a single scratch on it (and it's parked VERY close to the hedges on one side) and from what I've read on here other people's cars are the same way. So for whatever reason, these guys are very careful not to damage the car. I guess you can call that a good thing.

Just ignoring the totaling aspect of it, I'd much rather have my car nicely set on bricks and get a new set of whatever wheels I want courtesy of a check from my insurance company, minus $50, than to have my car screwed up to the point of needing a new paint job or major body work. I'd rather have my wheels stolen than even have somebody key multiple body panels.