Does Anyone get pulled over because of aftermarket CBE???
 

well... just curious..
I have F.I 18"CBE and the police pulled me over last night.:shakes head:

and....??? what happened?

Probably complimented him on his awesome sounding exhaust. :tup:

I'm gonna say that you were pulled over more from looks than sound, the FI looks very aftermarket, which alot of law enforcement agencies are told to pay strict attention to. At cruising speed, none of the exhausts are really all that raucous, even with HFC's. That was a main reason I bought the exhaust I did, for those that dont know any better, it looks like it could have come from the factory that way.

I have the FI exhaust with the FI Long tube headers.. no cats.. have never been pulled over. As a matter of fact ive never been pulled over for an exhaust in any of my cars.. ever.. you must of been doing something else stupid or illigal for the cop to pull you over. FI exhaust with stock cats isnt even loud.

he said I should go back to stock exhaust, however he didn't give me any ticket. BTW, I'm just worry if he see me again.

P.S/ he told me that he think 350z is better... maybe he has 350z?:icon14:

in my state aftermarket exhaust will win you a fix it ticket but then i always question why the harley guys get to make chopper noise... while other's arent allowed.

hes just busting your ballz. hes not going to ticket you. your exhaust is perfectly legal.

I didn't do any illegal thing. If I did, he should gave me ticket for that.
Speed was only 25miles and didn't go through red light.

this sounds like the kid cop that pulled me over years ago to tell me my car was cool and he has a impressa RS at home... :shakes head:

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Modifications in themselves generally are not illegal. If your OEM exhaust was damaged then you'ld be exspected to fix it. You can not be mandated to buy an OEM pat either. Where you may break the law in this case is noise level or emissions.

Maybe he's just an ***-hole cop with nothing better to do than bother someone with a nice car.

YEa I tried to explain that but he said "All aftermarket parts are illegal!!".
:mad:

Ask your DMV to provide you with the law that states all aftermarket parts are illegal

and you were doing 25? NO exhaust sold is loud enough at that speed, unless you're coasting in 1st, I think the dude was just a douchebag.

ask him what the decibal noise level is for illegal and then ask him to test yours.

I asked that also.. But the cop said " it doesn't matter becuase ur car has aftermarket exhaust which is illegal. You see that big coffee can? That meNs it's not stock that's y i made u to stop." and " if your car is Ferrari or mustang and makes loud noise,Then I didn't pull u over. Press the gas a little bit". I pushed it. He goes " wow..that's why I keep telling u it's illegal. Let me have ur license and registration."
WTF....

is he a forum member at my350z.com?

They seem to hate the 370z there.

Wow, I would have said "Are you done? Because I have to get to the shop to have my NOS and roll cage installed." I'm not a wise *** with cops but this guy obviously has a hard-on against stereotypical "ricers". He's classifying you as one, and you sound like a younger kid (no offense if you're not). I went through the same **** back in the day with my 300ZX. Cops can bully you around when you're young and don't know your rights. I would just tell him if he writes you a ticket that you will make a fool of him when you take him to trial and question him about his belief on aftermarket parts and the law... He will look like an incompetent bozo in front of the judge and entire court. That's pure BS.

Keep it cool in that neighborhood because you're marked now. And any visible and audible mods you do now will only bring more of the same nonsense.

He didn't write the ticket because he knew he was wrong. He was fishing for a bigger bust.

I do believe in some areas cops will write shaddy tickets, betting that you don't have the time to go to court twice just to fight them.

I agree Lemers. But I'm a stubborn bastard and I'll go to court when I know I'm right!

In most states, all aftermarket parts that have to do with emissions are illegal if they don't have a CARB certification.

Other modifications might be illegal too, for example ride height.

Ok show a law that says afermarket exausts in themselves are illegal. The laws are most likely written to outlaw higher emission levels and noise levels. Neither of these can be proven on the street by a cop by looking at your exaust.

I'm not going to get in a discussion with you, the law is different in every state.

However the cop don't need to prove nothing, you are the one that will need to do it in court. ;)

Look at the laws in your state!

It does not matter what state you are in the Constitution garuntees certain rights one is the pursumption of innocence or "innocent until proven guilty". Even if the cop writes a ticket he has to site which law he believes you broke. You then you go and plead. This is your choice not the states. If you plead not guilty than it may go to trial if the judge feels tha the state has enough evidence connecting you to a crime (speeding case it's varified by radar usually).

Also a law outlawing "aftermarket" parts or "modifying" a car is hard to write. It is a modification to the car if I use a different oil filter or brake pads than the OEM. That's why states don't outlaw "aftermarket" items. Doing so would put autozone and pepboys out of buisness and force car buyers into monoplized car maintenance through Nissan dealers.

No what states do is enforce certain legal standards. Like emissions, noise, ride high, even brightness of headlights and taillights. If you get a ticket for "noise" most likely the cop has been trained on hearing the exhaust from a certain distance. And that will be his testimony. You get a chance to dispute his testimony with what ever evidence you have. The best would be proof that it isn't louder than legal limits or it could be that see just saw an "aftermarket" exhaust and was picking on you. The verdict will condown to "reasonable doubt".

Again you seem pretty certain that "most states" outlaw aftermarket parts. I just ask you to show me one.

JB1 was pulled over and ticketed for a Berk CBE and HFCs. His mistake is that when the cop asked "is this exhaust stock?" he said "no".

As others have said I think that cop was fckin' with you. Was he in a marked car because hes actions sound almost as immature as if a wana-be fake cop pulled you over for the powertrip. I wouldn't be concered in the future about getting pulled over just for your exhaust, unless you put something really nuts on.

do mustangs have exemptions from the law?

nailed it.

Again every state has different laws plus you also have local codes. However you want to make a big issue with me about this.

I know some of the laws of the state and local county I'm currently living in, if not I will research. ;)

You can check your own laws or requirements in your current state! :google:

But I also agree that the cops can be a$$holes and prejudice with some cars when it comes to aftermarket parts depending of the state or county they are in, take for example California.

Is the FI exhaust 50 state legal? Being that they operate out of Ca did they get CARB approval for the exhaust?

Na, Virginia is just hurting bad for revenue...

I got pulled over for Tint on my way home from ZDAYZ. Yep, solely for tint and I passed his test anyway.

Not because of your beer pong skillzzz

If its only a CBE it should by definition not change the location of the stock catalytic converters, then it has no bearing on emissions and cannot be illegal (even in CA). HFC, LTH, offroad X-pipes, etc. that are non CARB approved (yes I know you're in VA, not CA, but if youre safe in CA you should be good in any other state) can be ticketable (fix-it ticket) and you will have to smog the vehicle to prove you are legal still/again. Noise pollution is also ticketable but I don't think you fall within those limits. Bottom line...the guy was just looking for an excuse to jam you up so just dont let him catch you street racing (not insinuating that you would be). There are power tripping a-holes in every profession, it just sucks when a cop decides to take a power trip because he has power over anyone in his jurisdiction.

im gettin that this cop was a complete idiot.

I was wondering if I'd still blow a 0.08... ;-)

Yep, got a ticket for Loud exhaust. I was dumb enough to admit I had an aftermarket exhaust when the cop asked about it.

Turning onto a wide street, I accelerated hard in first and second gear but slowed down immediately not to speed and coasted along in 4th. Cop heard me accelerate from a few blocks away and pulled me over, he looked frustrated that he couldn't get me for speeding so gave me a ticket for the loud exhaust.

Law in Illinois doesn't say anything about decibels, but it does state your car cannot be louder then stock. So I guess this means after market exhausts are not illegal here as long as they are not louder then stock.

Ah well, time to tone it all down a bit, anybody want to buy some BERK HFC's? (Not getting rid of the CBE though)

https://njcourts.judiciary.state.nj..../part1_b_c.pdf

It's illegal in NJ and any cop can give you ticket if they feel your exhaust is too loud. I know many people received this ticket and I almost received one last week.

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I think there's a fine line between "aftermarket exhaust" and "performance exhaust". When your dad's Honda Accord or your brothers Toyota Corolla exhaust craps out and you put on a aftermarket exhaust (non OEM) from local muffler shop, that's aftermarket exhaust. What we put on our cars are Performance exhaust. The main goal for performance exhaust is sound (making it loud) and performance. Just my :twocents:

sorry to hear that...
so you gonna put stock for a while and put them back in future?

To answer your question... nope.

However here in California they can and often do give what's known as a "ref" ticket (usually to riced out el cheapo Honda's). It's basically an ankle grabbing session where the cop gives you a ticket for various "mods" on your vehicle earning you a trip to the state referee to have a visual and usually a smog inspection done to get the ticket signed off. This means putting all the stock parts back onto your ride in order for it to pass this b*llsh*t revenue collecting inspection.

For our cars (the 370z) being at it's pricepoint, we probably will not get hassled at this stage of the game like some '89 Honda will complete with fart canon attached. The loud exhaust is simply the "reason" for the stop which then becomes their "probable cause" for the next step which is "pop the hood" so that they can (with their discerning eye... pshhh) point out all the "illegal" mods that you will be cited for. The truth is, they most likely don't have a clue as to what's what under the hood but anything shiny will get you written up which is why so many people choose the route of "stealth" when it comes to mods, ie., flat black painted parts etc. to look more stock and less bling.

You can (and in my opinion should) never agree to pop the hood (which is a warantless search) however, depending on the cop, you may have to take a trip to get your car out of impound but usually it's just a bluffing game on their part at this point which goes something like this... cop: "okay we'll just call the tow truck then..." Wait a while and see if you cave. If not, they will not hassle with it. But that could go either way.

Obviously in NO CIRCUMSTANCE do you EVER admit to having anything whatsoever on your vehicle that is not 100% stock from the factory.